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  1. Capngrog

    Bo on the beach, Long Island, NY

    Bingo!
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    Saint Augustine FL, (KSGJ) 3/23/23

    You aren't wrong. Here's a list of the ones I recall: 06/29/2022; C-152 on an instructional flight - two fatalities; 03/02/2022; Extra NG - one fatality; 03/23/2023; Piper Malibu, the subject of this thread. Fortunately there were not fatalities resulting from this one. I don't know if this...
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    Bo on the beach, Long Island, NY

    I was attempting to differentiate a sand surface that would accommodate vehicular traffic (hard), such as Daytona or Ormond Beach, from the "softer" sand of the dunes which make for difficult walking, let alone accommodating vehicular traffic. A high speed encounter with any surface, including...
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    Bo on the beach, Long Island, NY

    Actually, there is a lively debate about the subject as seen in the thread, "Forced Landing: Gear Up or Gear Down?" on this POA Forum. A link to the thread: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/forced-landing-gear-up-or-gear-down.46133/ In the example of the Assemblyman's forced...
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    The greatest aviation movie of all time!

    There's a similar scene in the sequel to "The Gods Must Be Crazy" (The Gods Must Be Crazy II?) where the ultralight pilot pours whiskey into the fuel tank to get the engines running again. Overall, it's a pretty good movie if you don't insist on absolute "documentary-type" accuracy in movie dramas.
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    Bo on the beach, Long Island, NY

    As I recall, there's a debate on whether an off field landing is better with the gear down or with the gear up. Some say that with gear down, the approach is steeper and the flare more critical with timing ... others say that with the gear down, the gear absorbs a lot of "unwanted energy"...
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    Mesa Mid Air

    There isn't much information available yet, but fortunately everyone walked away. The link to the story...
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    Civil Air Patrol questions

    There are garden clubs that are officially mandated auxiliaries of a U.S. Military organization?
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    Civil Air Patrol questions

    I was in the CAP so long ago that I've forgotten what my "rank" was ... I think it was "Cadet", but I'm not certain. Anyway, it was at Reid's Hillview Airport near San Jose, California, and most of the instructors (or mentors) were good guys and WWII veterans. I was only a member for a year or...
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    First Time Flying to Key West

    I suspect you meant Sugar Loaf, not Sugarland.
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    First Time Flying to Key West

    Even if the gators are gone, pythons still gotta eat ... who's next on the menu?:eek:
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    Diamond down in Lantana (West Palm Beach)

    It looks like it went straight in ...
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    The flat spin was the result of the in-flight structural breakup. Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear in my Post #115 above, but the structural breakup was due to exceeding Vne in a spiral dive. Take a look at the video presented by the AOPA Air Safety Institute in Post #110 above and the...
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    Todd 82; You are correct. This was not, in my opinion, a "lawn dart" impact, but an impact from a flat spin. Again, in my opinion, an in flight breakup due to exceeding Vne, resulted in a flat spin, which usually results in a "softer" (less destructive) impact. Note here that even though I...
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    By the time that B-Roll was produced, the airframe had already been extensively cut up, presumably under NTSB supervision. The final descent rate must have been off the charts, even though it was probably in a flat spin.
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    Here's a quote appearing in a thread on the PPRuNe website concerning the crash: "An "ear-witness" heard the plane overfly her house, the last few seconds of its trajectory, with a high pitch engine noise and several 'backfire' sounds, before the final thump noise. They tried to locate it in...
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    From the limited information provided by the photographs, it looks like the airplane was in a flat spin when it impacted. From the Aviation Safety Network: "Sigmet for MOD Turbulence. Icing from ground to FL200. Light snow." Here's a link to communications and ADS-B information during the...
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    PC 12 down in Nevada - 5 Fatalities

    A PC-12, engaged in air ambulance operations, crashed near Stagecoach, Nevada last night around 2115 hrs. local time. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/5-dead-including-patients-medical-094041457.html
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    Took a puppy home from the pound

    If you were worried about outliving your dog, why not get an older dog from the local animal shelter? Pound Hounds are grateful.
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    Lets make Friday 'Joke Day'!

    Neither of my permanent duty stations in the Air Force had golf courses, and it was my impression that this was an exception to the rule. Although I'm not a golfer (but I did see "Caddy Shack), one of the most beautiful golf courses I've ever seen was the one at Homestead AFB ... Hurricane...
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