College football 2024

Ed Haywood said:
I imagine they'll fine tune their approach in the future. For the first year, I'd say the results were good. They captured some of the magic of March Madness. And nobody should have any issues with the final 4 being undeserving.

My only complaint is that they can't call an audible and play the Championship somewhere within driving distance of South Bend and Columbus. Perhaps Indianapolis? That would truly capture the best of college football and be a tailgate for the ages.
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Penn state didn’t beat anyone all year and should’ve played Oregon tenn or Georgia instead of the weakest playoff teams
 
Texas lost, so there is a God, lol. Don't care too much about who wins the championship, but I have no love for the Domers. Join a conference already.
 
Truthfully, it’ll hurt the big schools, but the NFL needs a D-league that doesn’t start with ‘NCAA’.
 
TCABM said:
Truthfully, it’ll hurt the big schools, ...
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how? so what if they won't be able to get "students" into some Sports Medicine program or Sports Management program or some other silly program with a $75,000 per year tuition?
 
Bob Noel said:
how? so what if they won't be able to get "students" into some Sports Medicine program or Sports Management program or some other silly program with a $75,000 per year tuition?
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Money generated thru football programs fund many, many Title IX programs. Take the ‘star’ aspect out football and the money follows.
 
TCABM said:
Money generated thru football programs fund many, many Title IX programs. Take the ‘star’ aspect out football and the money follows.
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Yup. Money from OU football pays for A LOT of other sports. Football pays for itself and then some ($199MM in revenue in 2023 for OU athletics with $6.5MM being transferred to the academic side of the books), not to mention that you often have a direct correlation between university donations/gifts and football program performance (not that it makes sense for it to be that way). I can't tell you the number of multi-million dollar renovations that occurred on the campus after OU went on a tear in the early 2000s. Sports program dominance excites the alumni base and spurs financial gifts. Places like tOSU, UT, Michigan, etc all have enormous alumni bases that feed money into the schools.

Right or wrong, people don't generally get too excited about gifting money because the debate team is doing well, or the Engineering program won a robotics contest.
 
Half Fast said:
Now if we'd just legalize parimutuel betting with the schools getting a 20% cut, our journey to the dark side would be complete....
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Only a matter of time before star players start getting NIL deals from the various betting apps.
Saw a commercial yesterday with Eli Manning for FanDuel. Sad.
 
Yeah, I figured the final result would be within one possession. As I write this, it's 3:00 left in the 3rd and it's a 3 possession game. I've always sided with OSU as a result of some of my friends. Otherwise I don't have a dog in the fight. But after the Cotton Bowl, I'd really hoped Notre Dame could've shown more.
 
it would be nice if the audio did not have SO MUCH CROWD NOISE
 
How ‘bout them Buckeyes.
 

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Honestly, I think it's good to see OSU back up and running where they ought to be. I felt that Tressel got screwed by the flavor of the month and didn't deserve the exit he received. I think if Texas had held up against OSU like they could have, they would have won against last night's Notre Dame. See y'all next year!
 
KE5BM said:
Honestly, I think it's good to see OSU back up and running where they ought to be. I felt that Tressel got screwed by the flavor of the month and didn't deserve the exit he received. I think if Texas had held up against OSU like they could have, they would have won against last night's Notre Dame. See y'all next year!
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I agree. Most felt whoever won the TX vs OSU/Oregon game would go on to win the Natty. Those three teams had the toughest road and were battle tested.
 
Rcmutz said:
Now, you know that is not true. Most that NIL money went to hang on to players vice going to the portal or NFL draft. Maybe, BEST/SMARTESS USE OF NIL MONEY! That I’ll concede.
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Nations largest athletic budget and over $20MM in NIL contributions goes a long way way toward keeping the best players at home, not to mention picking up 3-4 of the top portal players available. Don't get me wrong, I'd want OU to do the same thing if they had the means to do so, but unfortunately that'll never be the case unless Elon Musk becomes a Sooner fan lol. 3 out of the 4 teams in this year's 4 team semi-final round had the highest financial backing of all teams. With uncapped free-agency, buying championship teams is going to be limited to a handful of colleges with donor bases capable of spending that kind of cash. OSU, UT, ND are perfect examples of huge schools with large donor bases willing to do exactly that.

I don't think there's another school out there that could have run the gauntlet that tOSU had to go through for the playoff rounds. They didn't have any outright easy games, so tOSU still had to earn it the hard way on the field and they had the ponies to do it.
 
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Second year Big 10 won and SEC didn’t even make the final this year. NIL is going to be tough on the SEC.
 
SoonerAviator said:
Nations largest athletic budget and over $20MM in NIL contributions goes a long way way toward keeping the best players at home, not to mention picking up 3-4 of the top portal players available. Don't get me wrong, I'd want OU to do the same thing if they had the means to do so, but unfortunately that'll never be the case unless Elon Musk becomes a Sooner fan lol. 3 out of the 4 teams in this year's 4 team semi-final round had the highest financial backing of all teams. With uncapped free-agency, buying championship teams is going to be limited to a handful of colleges with donor bases capable of spending that kind of cash. OSU, UT, ND are perfect examples of huge schools with large donor bases willing to do exactly that.

I don't think there's another school out there that could have run the gauntlet that tOSU had to go through for the playoff rounds. They didn't have any outright easy games, so tOSU still had to earn it the hard way on the field and they had the ponies to do it.
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Personally, I think they need to put some rules in place for NIL and portal transfers. It’s to much the wild Wild West!
 
Rcmutz said:
Personally, I think they need to put some rules in place for NIL and portal transfers. It’s to much the wild Wild West!
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Pretty difficult to un-ring that bell. Maybe they can institute contracts like the NFL so that you have to agree to a 2- or 3-yr deal to limit players jumping ship every season with unlimited free agency. NIL Cap/Compensation Cap would probably be needed as well. Either way, there's no getting the product back that we had prior to NIL/transfer portal.
 
SoonerAviator said:
Pretty difficult to un-ring that bell. Maybe they can institute contracts like the NFL so that you have to agree to a 2- or 3-yr deal to limit players jumping ship every season with unlimited free agency. NIL Cap/Compensation Cap would probably be needed as well. Either way, there's no getting the product back that we had prior to NIL/transfer portal.
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Only allow 3 and 4 year scholarships and/or annot be on scholarship to enter the portal.
 
SoonerAviator said:
Pretty difficult to un-ring that bell. Maybe they can institute contracts like the NFL so that you have to agree to a 2- or 3-yr deal to limit players jumping ship every season with unlimited free agency. NIL Cap/Compensation Cap would probably be needed as well. Either way, there's no getting the product back that we had prior to NIL/transfer portal.
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Lose a year of eligibility with each transfer would be a fairly easy start. I think that's how it started. Not sure why that went away.
 
CJones said:
Lose a year of eligibility with each transfer would be a fairly easy start. I think that's how it started. Not sure why that went away.
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Yeah. To further that, I have a niece who plays D1 softball, and spent 2 years at the JUCO level due to the COVID stuff causing more D1 senior players taking up spots for extra years of eligibility. So they just ruled that JUCO years don't count anymore with regard to NCAA eligibility. So now, my niece who is a senior and after this Spring will have played 4 years of softball (2-JUCO, 2-D1) has the opportunity to keep playing through next year, lol. She's a mechanical engineering major and will finish her bachelor's in the Fall, but we're trying to convince her to go ahead and keep playing while getting her Master's. Getting it all paid for while playing D1 ball while entering the workforce with a Master's in Engineering should give her about as much an advantage as you can get in life.
 
SoonerAviator said:
Yeah. To further that, I have a niece who plays D1 softball, and spent 2 years at the JUCO level due to the COVID stuff causing more D1 senior players taking up spots for extra years of eligibility. So they just ruled that JUCO years don't count anymore with regard to NCAA eligibility. So now, my niece who is a senior and after this Spring will have played 4 years of softball (2-JUCO, 2-D1) has the opportunity to keep playing through next year, lol. She's a mechanical engineering major and will finish her bachelor's in the Fall, but we're trying to convince her to go ahead and keep playing while getting her Master's. Getting it all paid for while playing D1 ball while entering the workforce with a Master's in Engineering should give her about as much an advantage as you can get in life.
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For sure! I turned down offers after my time in JUCO because "basketball is too much like a job now", which is very true, but it's a heckuva lot nicer than any job you'll have to get to pay for school on your own dime. Tell her to suck it up and take full advantage of it while she can. A couple more years of long practices in addition to studying will seem like they suck, but they'll be over in the blink of an eye and she'll have something positive (extra education) that will FAR outweigh the 'suckage' of those handful "get home from a road trip at 3am and have a Physics lab at 8am" scenarios.
 
Half Fast said:
Just require a minimum GPA of 3.5 to enter the transfer portal and watch the transfers plummet.
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The 'grades are a barrier to entry' ship sailed a LOOOONG time ago. Way to easy to cook those books these days. Coach Sanders even admitted a couple weeks ago that his son and the other star player at Colorado never set foot in a classroom through their entire college 'career'. It's easy enough to stack the deck when you actually have to ATTEND class, but with online being so prevalent now, they probably have automated scripts that do everything to check the appropriate boxes.
 
CJones said:
For sure! I turned down offers after my time in JUCO because "basketball is too much like a job now", which is very true, but it's a heckuva lot nicer than any job you'll have to get to pay for school on your own dime. Tell her to suck it up and take full advantage of it while she can. A couple more years of long practices in addition to studying will seem like they suck, but they'll be over in the blink of an eye and she'll have something positive (extra education) that will FAR outweigh the 'suckage' of those handful "get home from a road trip at 3am and have a Physics lab at 8am" scenarios.
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Luckily for her she's a star on the team both offensively and defensively, and loves to play. I think her only qualm is her desire to "get started on her career/life" but I'm hoping it's not too difficult to convince her that she shouldn't be in too much of a rush to get into the daily grind no matter how grueling school can be. Even if she goes for an MBA or similar rather than a Masters in Engineering it'll be time well-spent. She's from a family that runs a successful trash hauling service, so she's no stranger to getting up early and grinding it out, lol.
 
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