[NA] NYC steakhouse suggestion

While not a "steakhouse" per se, our favorite near the theatre place is Sardi's. The steak tartar is a fave.

Sardi’s has evidently clawed itself out of the cellar, according to this and many other reports and reviews. Back in the ‘70s, Sardi’s was reviewed in New York magazine. The review stated the Canneloni was like “cat food welded to an ash tray”

Yowza! Worst review I ever read!

-Skip
 
I know you said not a chain but last time my wife and I saw a show, we went to Del Frisco’s near Rockefeller center. Solid surf and turf and great sides. Also if you have time, check out Raines law room or patent pending for some nice cocktails
 
True story, my cousin came to NYC to visit from Colombia and I met them up there. I asked him if he ever ate good pizza because NYC is the best. He then pointed at a PaPa John's sign and said.. yeah we eat good pizza all the time. I looked at him as if he was joking and of course he was not. Off we went to get a nice NYC slice.
 
You don’t buy food, you just rent it for approximately 24 hours. Grab a pizza, and convert your savings into AMUs to spend towards that new panel in your plane.
Gotta work hard on keeping fit and need food with protein, not carbs :)
 
Yea, I don’t eat pizza either due to carbs. I was just being cheap
 
I know you said not a chain but last time my wife and I saw a show, we went to Del Frisco’s near Rockefeller center. Solid surf and turf and great sides. Also if you have time, check out Raines law room or patent pending for some nice cocktails
I'm not saying Del Friscos or Morton is bad just because they are chains. I've eaten in their various locations, but my preference is to give the local establishments a chance if I could.
 
True story, my cousin came to NYC to visit from Colombia and I met them up there. I asked him if he ever ate good pizza because NYC is the best. He then pointed at a PaPa John's sign and said.. yeah we eat good pizza all the time. I looked at him as if he was joking and of course he was not. Off we went to get a nice NYC slice.
We arrived in Taipei once and our host ( a prominent physician there) said he was taking us to a place he was sure we would like: The Ponderosa Steakhouse. Fortunately, the line was very long and we decided to go eat Chinese food instead. I was heartbroken (not).
 
Had a layover in Manhattan…. The Capt was so excited, a TGIF just opened near the layover hotel…

Maybe he went by himself.
 
Had a layover in Manhattan…. The Capt was so excited, a TGIF just opened near the layover hotel…

Maybe he went by himself.
I'll stick to So Happy It's Tuesday's.
 
not really helpful since it's not a recent data point...and not technically in NY...but I'll throw this out anyway since it's not a chain...or at least it doesn't seem like one.

about 20 years ago I used to travel up to a vendor in NJ fairly often. We always stayed just across the river in Ft Lee, NJ. The owner of the place used to take us to a place called The River Palm Terrace for prime grade steaks. Looking on google maps I see that it's still there
 
I still had that steakhouse tab open so took a quick glance at the menu for closing it down.
$70 for a T-Bone
$85 for a NY Strip

I've been eating a carnivore diet for a couple of years now and I've cooked myself quite a few steaks...granted most are not prime grade and not aged either (I don't really like dry-aged meat anyway)
Those menu prices almost make me laugh. Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow. All it needs is a bit of salt. Great every time. I don't care how good of a cut it is, prime or not... no way it's worth $70 or $85! I can eat nothing but great steaks for a week for that kind of money, easy!
 
…Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow...
Or smoked and seared. Which is part of the reason I reserve steakhouses for other people’s money.
 
I still had that steakhouse tab open so took a quick glance at the menu for closing it down.
$70 for a T-Bone
$85 for a NY Strip

I've been eating a carnivore diet for a couple of years now and I've cooked myself quite a few steaks...granted most are not prime grade and not aged either (I don't really like dry-aged meat anyway)
Those menu prices almost make me laugh. Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow. All it needs is a bit of salt. Great every time. I don't care how good of a cut it is, prime or not... no way it's worth $70 or $85! I can eat nothing but great steaks for a week for that kind of money, easy!
I'm not a steak guy, but my boss at work is. He takes me to fancy steak houses all the time since that's his thing. Last work trip to NY we went to an uber-expensive fancy joint, and to me, it was... fine. The next day I was on my own and found a street vendor selling halal meat wraps, so I got one with all the fixings, jalapenos, sauce, etc, and to me that $10 was so much tastier than anything we got at the expensive restaurant. I didn't do the exact calculations but the 'yum' per dollar ratio was at least 5x higher the second night. Just shows how different people's tastes are!
 
Margy and I don't eat out much. Not that we are adverse to it, but we live in the comparative boonies and it's a long way to a decent restaurant. I've gotten quite good over the years, so if we want steaks, I go to the Costco and pick up an couple of Prime cuts and stick them in the Sous Vide. I've tried various ways of finishing them over the years, but I've settled on a blend of olive oil and butter in my cast iron pan as hot as I can get it (use the FAST BOIL setting on my induction). Takes only a few seconds on each side and the edges to sear a perfect medium rare steak.

Of course, we have wines to match. I'm partial to some syrah blends, but we have lots of Cabs as well. There's like 2000 bottles down there. Better selection than most steak houses.
 
If you go to OpenTable.com, enter NYC and select "steak" as the cuisine, you'll get a list of restaurants and star ratings given by diners.
 
If you go to OpenTable.com, enter NYC and select "steak" as the cuisine, you'll get a list of restaurants and star ratings given by diners.
Apparently the locals in London have gotten tired of not being able to beat out tourists at the really good places, so they've been posting rave reviews online for Angus Steakhouse, which is apparently every bit as good a place as... uuuhhhh... Sizzler or Applebee's. It's working, I guess.
 
not really helpful since it's not a recent data point...and not technically in NY...but I'll throw this out anyway since it's not a chain...or at least it doesn't seem like one.

about 20 years ago I used to travel up to a vendor in NJ fairly often. We always stayed just across the river in Ft Lee, NJ. The owner of the place used to take us to a place called The River Palm Terrace for prime grade steaks. Looking on google maps I see that it's still there
My favorite place!! Table #31 is my regular spot. Fried zucchini flowers are excellent :)
 
I still had that steakhouse tab open so took a quick glance at the menu for closing it down.
$70 for a T-Bone
$85 for a NY Strip

I've been eating a carnivore diet for a couple of years now and I've cooked myself quite a few steaks...granted most are not prime grade and not aged either (I don't really like dry-aged meat anyway)
Those menu prices almost make me laugh. Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow. All it needs is a bit of salt. Great every time. I don't care how good of a cut it is, prime or not... no way it's worth $70 or $85! I can eat nothing but great steaks for a week for that kind of money, easy!
That is a standard price for dry aged meat. I also think the dry aged beef is way overrated. When I want to eat aged-meat, I order some good quality cured meat like jamon iberico, cecina, and salami.
 
As per the news Nov 22, 2024, it was sold to Landry's, the seafood (and other stuff) chain for $30 million. No idea what the impact will be.
At least where we went the other night for a work meal, the peanuts now come in a little plastic bag now, not scooped out of the giant bucket.
 
I still had that steakhouse tab open so took a quick glance at the menu for closing it down.
$70 for a T-Bone
$85 for a NY Strip

I've been eating a carnivore diet for a couple of years now and I've cooked myself quite a few steaks...granted most are not prime grade and not aged either (I don't really like dry-aged meat anyway)
Those menu prices almost make me laugh. Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow. All it needs is a bit of salt. Great every time. I don't care how good of a cut it is, prime or not... no way it's worth $70 or $85! I can eat nothing but great steaks for a week for that kind of money, easy!

Those are totally normal prices for a steakhouse in a major market (NYC, Chicago, LA, Seattle, Miami, etc.). Even at the higher end places here in Kansas City, not uncommon for quality cuts to be $60-70, plus sides.
 
Everyone has their own preferences, but here is a suggestion based on mine. I only order ribeye, absolutely no butter on top, and charred surface. And, I enjoy the classy old school style atmosphere.

Benjamin’s on 41st is my number one favorite place for steak, appetizers, atmosphere, and service. Caesar salad and thick cut bacon are must. The best bartender in the city is behind the bar. I always take a back booth - a classy setting.

Empire Steakhouse, especially the East (though all three locations are consistent and very good) location is close second for the same reason. One advantage here is Empire has items other than steak selections on their menu for someone who is not in the mood for a steak. The grilled octopus is excellent.

Wolfgang’s and Smith & Wollenski are very good, too. But, not as classy as the two mentioned above. Wolfgang’s by The NY Times building has a nice modern setting but not my liking for a steakhouse.

Sparks and Delmonico’s (the oldest restaurant in Manhattan) did not impress me. Not bad, but nothing special…rather boring. Sparks gave me that regular diner feel with cheap tables and furniture covered by a white linen.

Del Frisco’s, Wolfgang’s near The NY Times location, Striphouse, Benjamin Prime, they all messed up the steak (Del Frisco’s and Ben Prime screwed up twice). The most disappointing steak was at the Striphouse - poor meat flavor, and I thought it was steamed meat not grilled.

As far as the steak goes, they all pretty much use good quality meat. It all depends on how well and consistently the grill chefs manage the temperature of the steak.

Again, NO butter (don’t camouflage the flavor or the quality steak, unless it is old).

And, what’s wrong with a “chain”? Texas Roadhouse does a good job for casual dining at better than reasonable price. For what they serve for prices, I never had a bad meal at Panda Express, Burger King, etc.

Enjoy your visit to the city. Bon appetit

Great write-up. I ended up cancelling the Delmonico's rez. It was later than I would have liked and not overly easy to get to from where we're staying. I was able to snag a table at Benjamin's per your note above. I think I'll go ahead and cancel the Del Frisco's too - after I made the reservation, I realized I had been to Del Frisco's in Philly a few years ago and I definitely remember being drastically underwhelmed with the service and food both (honestly, Texas Roadhouse probably would have been better).

Thanks for the detailed suggestions!
 
Great write-up. I ended up cancelling the Delmonico's rez. It was later than I would have liked and not overly easy to get to from where we're staying. I was able to snag a table at Benjamin's per your note above. I think I'll go ahead and cancel the Del Frisco's too - after I made the reservation, I realized I had been to Del Frisco's in Philly a few years ago and I definitely remember being drastically underwhelmed with the service and food both (honestly, Texas Roadhouse probably would have been better).

Thanks for the detailed suggestions!
Be sure to PIREP how your weekend goes on this freq.
 
Great write-up. I ended up cancelling the Delmonico's rez. It was later than I would have liked and not overly easy to get to from where we're staying. I was able to snag a table at Benjamin's per your note above. I think I'll go ahead and cancel the Del Frisco's too - after I made the reservation, I realized I had been to Del Frisco's in Philly a few years ago and I definitely remember being drastically underwhelmed with the service and food both (honestly, Texas Roadhouse probably would have been better).

Thanks for the detailed suggestions!
We will miss you by a few days. Our reservation is on Friday the 13th. Have a wonderful dinner and enjoy visiting the city!
 
Be sure to PIREP how your weekend goes on this freq.

Overall, the trip was great! We had an early-ish flight out on Weds, so I got a hotel by the airport here so we could just hop on the 'plane train' for the 5 min ride in the morning. As it turns out, we ended up having about 3 hrs of flight delays BUT Delta Sky Club access came in clutch. It was much more enjoyable to be sitting there sipping Mimosas and Bloody Mary's with my wife than the usual slug of popping open the laptop and dealing with emails or conference calls in that setting. Due to the delays, we pretty much got to our hotel in NYC and relaxed for an hour or so and then it was time to head out for our 7pm reservation at Benjamin's.

It was raining pretty hard, so I ended up getting a $90 Uber for the 1.2 mile (40 minute) drive. Got there on-time for our 7pm reservation and there was already a line down the hallway and two-deep all the way around the bar. Luckily, I am tall and have long arms, so I was able to make my way to the bar to get us a couple of drinks. Forty-five minutes later, we were finally seated. Our table was crammed in among a row of two-tops. Things were crammed in so tightly, I could have taken from the next table's plate without even having to lean over. The place was so noisy, I could barely hear my wife across the table from me, and being so close to the other tables, it was hard to discern which conversation was ours. With that said, the food was amazing. We got the tuna tartare followed by porterhouse for two with creamed spinach and mushrooms. All the food was fantastic. I thought the waiter was good, until we got back to the hotel and I glanced at the receipt to see that we had been charged for $60 worth of drinks that we didn't order. Ugh.

We still enjoyed ourselves despite the less-than-stellar atmosphere. I probably won't suggest Bejamin's to anyone looking for a low-key dinner. The rest of the trip was amazing. Strolling around NYC - went to the top of Rockefeller, went to the Christmas market down south, got a couple of street-vendor hot dogs on our way to the show in our 'Broadway' attire, took a selfie in front of the '2025' sign before it gets hoisted....and then dropped at New Year's - at Christmas time was a cool atmosphere. Broadway show (Wicked) was awesome, as expected. We're already talking about doing a similar trip next year with the kids so they can experience it, though probably skip the $300 dinner with them en tow.

Thanks again for the suggestions. I'm actually going back to NYC this weekend/early next week for a trade show so I'll have to pull this thread back up for some new spots to check out.
 
Glad you had a good time!

It ain't for me, though. Frankly,...
a $90 Uber for the 1.2 mile (40 minute) drive

a line down the hallway and two-deep all the way around the bar.

Forty-five minutes later, we were finally seated.

Things were crammed in so tightly, I could have taken from the next table's plate without even having to lean over. The place was so noisy, I could barely hear my wife across the table from me,

we had been charged for $60 worth of drinks that we didn't order.
...does not sound like a pleasant experience at all.

To each his own, though.
 
Overall, the trip was great! We had an early-ish flight out on Weds, so I got a hotel by the airport here so we could just hop on the 'plane train' for the 5 min ride in the morning. As it turns out, we ended up having about 3 hrs of flight delays BUT Delta Sky Club access came in clutch. It was much more enjoyable to be sitting there sipping Mimosas and Bloody Mary's with my wife than the usual slug of popping open the laptop and dealing with emails or conference calls in that setting. Due to the delays, we pretty much got to our hotel in NYC and relaxed for an hour or so and then it was time to head out for our 7pm reservation at Benjamin's.

It was raining pretty hard, so I ended up getting a $90 Uber for the 1.2 mile (40 minute) drive. Got there on-time for our 7pm reservation and there was already a line down the hallway and two-deep all the way around the bar. Luckily, I am tall and have long arms, so I was able to make my way to the bar to get us a couple of drinks. Forty-five minutes later, we were finally seated. Our table was crammed in among a row of two-tops. Things were crammed in so tightly, I could have taken from the next table's plate without even having to lean over. The place was so noisy, I could barely hear my wife across the table from me, and being so close to the other tables, it was hard to discern which conversation was ours. With that said, the food was amazing. We got the tuna tartare followed by porterhouse for two with creamed spinach and mushrooms. All the food was fantastic. I thought the waiter was good, until we got back to the hotel and I glanced at the receipt to see that we had been charged for $60 worth of drinks that we didn't order. Ugh.

We still enjoyed ourselves despite the less-than-stellar atmosphere. I probably won't suggest Bejamin's to anyone looking for a low-key dinner. The rest of the trip was amazing. Strolling around NYC - went to the top of Rockefeller, went to the Christmas market down south, got a couple of street-vendor hot dogs on our way to the show in our 'Broadway' attire, took a selfie in front of the '2025' sign before it gets hoisted....and then dropped at New Year's - at Christmas time was a cool atmosphere. Broadway show (Wicked) was awesome, as expected. We're already talking about doing a similar trip next year with the kids so they can experience it, though probably skip the $300 dinner with them en tow.

Thanks again for the suggestions. I'm actually going back to NYC this weekend/early next week for a trade show so I'll have to pull this thread back up for some new spots to check out.

I asked someone else about their steak at Benjamin’s and they also had the porterhouse which they said they liked, so guessing that might be the steak to order there vs the ribeye that we ordered. The manager mailed me a $100 gift card but I doubt we will use it, or maybe we can pop into the bar for a few drinks one time. You can email the manager if you want those drinks, and probably corresponding 35% in taxes and tip refunded back to you.

Shocked about the $90 Uber, that’s nuts. We bought tickets to Wicked via StubHub and the seller never emailed them to us, so we didn’t get a chance to see it. The leftover seats for sale were $1000+ for 2 seats with fees which we didn’t feel ok with buying so we skipped it.
 
Glad you had a good time!

It ain't for me, though. Frankly,...









...does not sound like a pleasant experience at all.

To each his own, though.

Yeah.. Those were the low spots, but there were a lot of high spots, too. I'm definitely not a 'big city' kind of guy, but this trip was fun. It was just the two of us and we really only had two things scheduled (dinner one night and show the other night) spread across 3 days, so it was a very low-pressure easy going end of year trip for us, which hit the spot completely.
 
I asked someone else about their steak at Benjamin’s and they also had the porterhouse which they said they liked, so guessing that might be the steak to order there vs the ribeye that we ordered. The manager mailed me a $100 gift card but I doubt we will use it, or maybe we can pop into the bar for a few drinks one time. You can email the manager if you want those drinks, and probably corresponding 35% in taxes and tip refunded back to you.

Shocked about the $90 Uber, that’s nuts. We bought tickets to Wicked via StubHub and the seller never emailed them to us, so we didn’t get a chance to see it. The leftover seats for sale were $1000+ for 2 seats with fees which we didn’t feel ok with buying so we skipped it.

Yeah the whole check thing kind of ticked me off. I didn't want to be 'that guy' doing a line item review at a nice-ish place like that - I assumed they had their shtuff together better than the high school waitress at Applebee's - but I guess not.

That's a real bummer about the Wicked show! It was REALLY good. I saw it in Atlanta several years ago, but this was my wife's first time seeing it and it did not fail to impress! I guess I got a 'deal' with the $250/ea tickets I got back in November. Wowzers!
 
I'll be in NYC this Wed thru Sunday, I do this once or twice a year. When tickets for Gypsy (Audra) went on sale in Sept, I booked the flight, the hotel and tickets to the show back then. I'm willing to pay retail for this (altho I didn't - AMEX discount for center, front row balcony, which are normally twice what I paid). All other shows will be discounts at TKTS. Thurs AM will take the subway to Harlem and have a meet with some CS faculty at Columbia. Which means I can write off part of the trip. Already did the Enterprise & Intrepid, the ice cream museum was a waste of time. I can get a great steak in Denver (obviously) so I'm always looking for good seafood when I'm on a coast. Suggestions?
 
I still had that steakhouse tab open so took a quick glance at the menu for closing it down.
$70 for a T-Bone
$85 for a NY Strip

I've been eating a carnivore diet for a couple of years now and I've cooked myself quite a few steaks...granted most are not prime grade and not aged either (I don't really like dry-aged meat anyway)
Those menu prices almost make me laugh. Nothing could be easier or tastier than to throw a steak into a hot skillet primed with a bit of tallow. All it needs is a bit of salt. Great every time. I don't care how good of a cut it is, prime or not... no way it's worth $70 or $85! I can eat nothing but great steaks for a week for that kind of money, easy!
Also, FWIW... As a rule, a $120 steak is not twice as good as a $60 steak. Most of the really expensive steakhouses, you can order the cheapest thing on the menu and it'll be damn good. Save the rest for 100LL.
 
Also, FWIW... As a rule, a $120 steak is not twice as good as a $60 steak. Most of the really expensive steakhouses, you can order the cheapest thing on the menu and it'll be damn good. Save the rest for 100LL.
Speaking like a man who has never had Japanese wagyu.
 
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