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Albany Tom
I'm glad I learned how to land before I joined this forum. No offense to anyone.
That doesn’t state how much float is allowed. It states where the touchdown can be, regardless of the amount of float.
These two posts are not inconsistent with each other.Eh, the distance between the specified point and actual touchdown pointis the max allowable distance (200ft) for all things, to include float.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
I agree with that; I’ve always believed float is a symptom of too much airspeed. During a short field approach and landing, 1.3Vso/bottom of the white arc/mfg recommended airspeed (if published) plus gust factor is the target airspeed, +10/-5.These two posts are not inconsistent with each other.
The problem with “how much float is ‘minimal’” is that it’s isolating a single factor for micrometer measurement when the concept varies depending on a number of factors in combination. …
I don’t think you are underthinking it at all. That is exactly what I meant by the post you quoted. “Minimum float” is less a goal than it is a result of good technique.Maybe I’m under thinking this, but as mentioned elsewhere, the short field landing is simply a spot landing under very controlled conditions to achieve a desired performance outcome. Add an obstacle and the AFH recommends managing the pattern and initial altitude to drive the steeper angle necessary to avoid the obstacle while also touching down at the desired spot.
I guess maybe I’m putting less emphasis on the aim point, because where the descent angle intersects the runway is aim point and that point should be stable in the windscreen all the way down. Controlling energy for the target airspeed is all that’s left. Manage that successfully and float is minimal; no different than any other landing.
… “Minimum float” is less a goal than it is a result of good technique….
There's a lot of applicability to the distinction between goal and result. It's just an application of the difference between theory and practice.Ahhhhh; what a much better way to put that.
I’ve been watching a lot of techniques the past two days watching the 36’s @ Osh. Some I probably can’t duplicate, some I wouldn’t want to.Which technique?