Wonder what’s happening in San Diego?

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I saw this on FA. Looks as if they’re holding some inbound traffic over the water.

the planes out there showed as arrivals from Chicago and Houston.

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Too lazy to check the weather, but holding isn’t uncommon when they’re taking off to the west but landing to the east. Sometimes the marine layer is below the mins for 27, requiring the ILS to 9.

Have a couple of those t-shirts. :)
 
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I'm away right now, but my D2 Air told me that MYF was LIFR. It's likely SAN was as well. Whenever they switch to 9 and go low at SAN, you'll see holding. No autoland or lower than CAT I available there.
 
Yeah, no ILS to 27. LOC and RNAV only.

The RNAV (RNP) 27 has the lowest minimums to 27 at 617'/1-1/2 (CAT C&D) for those authorized RNP 0.11. TDZ is 17'.

The ILS 9 allows 217'/RVR18, if you can meet a 280'/NM to 3800' climb gradient on the missed approach, (CAT C&D). I don't have the mins for CAT A&B.

It definitely slows down the arrivals when they have to land east.
 
whoever was flying up past OCN needs to work on their stick and rudder skills, or get their AP checked..
 
Larry in TN said:
Yeah, no ILS to 27. LOC and RNAV only.

The RNAV (RNP) 27 has the lowest minimums to 27 at 617'/1-1/2 (CAT C&D) for those authorized RNP 0.11. TDZ is 17'.

The ILS 9 allows 217'/RVR18, if you can meet a 280'/NM to 3800' climb gradient on the missed approach, (CAT C&D). I don't have the mins for CAT A&B.

It definitely slows down the arrivals when they have to land east.
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All CATs have the same minimums. The ILS-Y mins are 41' higher than the ILS-Z. The climb gradient works for pretty much anything.

Part of the problem is the other traffic at local airports with precision approaches (MYF and CRQ) lands the other direction, creating issues where they have to protect for those missed approaches, as well as deconflict the missed off SAN and the arrivals from the East for airports still landing basically West.

Tantalum said:
whoever was flying up past OCN needs to work on their stick and rudder skills, or get their AP checked..
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Probably someone in a 172 with no AP lol.
 
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