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I heard a couple yesterday that were comical. It’s a practiced art, like a meow on guard.
What's with shouting "SEEYUH" in your deepest voice at the end of handoff readbacks? I feel like I hear that a lot nowadays (from pilots and controllers)- mostly jet guys(?). Has this always been a thing, just maybe becoming more common? Since the 80's, if I'm sayin' it- I say "see ya" in a normal tone. I feel like I'm being left out .
"NXXXXX, follow the Airbus 319."
"Follow the short bus, NXXXXX."
I was once admonished by an instructor in the simulator for saying "okay" quite often. I really didn't care that it bothered him but I did think about what caused me to say it. I read some interesting articles about human thought processing and one thing that was regularly mentioned was this habit. So what is it? You're using a verbal word or phrase to separate two actions. So I would say "okay" whenever I/we were switching from one task to another or I was mentally switching my thought process from one thing to another. This doesn't explain why all pilots use these phrases but in many cases the words are being used to allow a change from one thing to another. So a frequency change, while not unexpected, suddenly arrives in your ears. You are making a change from, lets say, enroute to approach phase. There is a physical and verbal change taking place almost simultaneously. This requires you to quickly change thought processes and using the word or phrase helps you draw a line, separating one thing from the next thing. In the sim, when learning a new aircraft the changes come fast and furious and require you to switch very quickly from one emergency procedure to another and then the approach, missed approach, holding etc. Each thing must be cut out of your thought process so as to now concentrate on another. Many times the word or phrase becomes a habit and you may be consciously unaware that you are using it. Okay?
Somewhere in 30+ years of flying I got into the habit of acknowledging a termination or handoff with "so long". Not sure why, it just sounds better than a simple acknowledgement.
During my initial controller (AIC) training, I was taught to expect "Up for your control" from the jets checking in with me. Not so much IRL however. Still better than "with you."Seeyuh beats “with you”.
Aggie? I also start emails and letters, and most phone conversations with Howdy!, because I was successfully indoctrinated at TAMU.I begin all emails, letters and conversations with "Howdy!"
During my initial controller (AIC) training, I was taught to expect "Up for your control" from the jets checking in with me. Not so much IRL however. Still better than "with you."
Aggie? I also start emails and letters, and most phone conversations with Howdy!, because I was successfully indoctrinated at TAMU.
"So long" (in a normal voice) if I'm working and "thanks for the help" if I'm flying.
I disagree to a point. There was a great female controller out in Midland who had a very cheerful “have a great great day” that always sounded genuine. Some people can get away with it and it also be appreciated.I think the days of having your very own trademark greeting or farewell are pretty much over. Not likely to be another old "Toot-toot" who got the nickname from the first words he uttered when he checked in on a new frequency. Personally, if you're trying to be "cute", you aren't. If you say the same thing once in awhile when it comes from the heart, it's good. Just don't say it every stinkin' time — and say it after your frequency and call sign.
LGB is common, the meowing is always weird. I wouldn't have figured so many ATP's were into cats...
Oh, C’mon man. Losers are the ones that can’t see the humor in it and chill. I don’t mind knowing someone’s on frequency and listening.Both types are losers.
Oh, C’mon man. Losers are the ones that can’t see the humor in it and chill. I don’t mind knowing someone’s on frequency and listening.
Meow doesn't make you a loser. It's funny.No, they're losers.
Meow doesn't make you a loser. It's funny.
No it’s not. What happens when the children start playing on guard is crews turn the volume down so the constant animal noises, LGB’s and guard nazis don’t interfere with being able to talk to atc on the primary radio. It’s childish and disruptive.Meow doesn't make you a loser. It's funny.
I’m not actually advocating for it, and “constant” would be irritating, but my crew actually does keep guard on com 2 whenever we are cruising somewhere and I’ve never heard it get that bad. Besides, for every crew that might turn it down, that’s clearly because some other crew is actively monitoring it, so I’m not sure that argument is sound.No it’s not. What happens when the children start playing on guard is crews turn the volume down so the constant animal noises, LGB’s and guard nazis don’t interfere with being able to talk to atc on the primary radio. It’s childish and disruptive.
I’m not actually advocating for it, and “constant” would be irritating, but my crew actually does keep guard on com 2 whenever we are cruising somewhere and I’ve never heard it get that bad. Besides, for every crew that might turn it down, that’s clearly because some other crew is actively monitoring it, so I’m not sure that argument is sound.
I know you’re not advocating but you are saying it’s funny and doesn’t constitute unprofessional behavior. I’m just saying it is not funny and is unprofessional.I’m not actually advocating for it, and “constant” would be irritating, but my crew actually does keep guard on com 2 whenever we are cruising somewhere and I’ve never heard it get that bad. Besides, for every crew that might turn it down, that’s clearly because some other crew is actively monitoring it, so I’m not sure that argument is sound.
I mean, I don't do it... so your presumptive implication is actually amusing, but I don't think it's "as bad" as people are sanctimoniously making it out to be. There are a LOT of man boys on this forum who talk tough, but we could discuss their (our?) far worse vices. I mean, calling someone that said "meow" a loser is pretty escalatory. Let him that hath no radio sins cast the first stones…How about knock off the child's play, and just simply monitor it?
I've heard it over the years, primarily in the NE.
There are a LOT of man boys on this forum who talk tough, but we could discuss their (our?) far worse vices.
I mean, I don't do it... so your presumptive implication is actually amusing, but I don't think it's "as bad" as people are sanctimoniously making it out to be. There are a LOT of man boys on this forum who talk tough, but we could discuss their (our?) far worse vices. I mean, calling someone that said "meow" a loser is pretty escalatory. Let him that hath no radio sins cast the first stones…
If your problem is with the loser comment why quote me?I mean, I don't do it... so your presumptive implication is actually amusing, but I don't think it's "as bad" as people are sanctimoniously making it out to be. There are a LOT of man boys on this forum who talk tough, but we could discuss their (our?) far worse vices. I mean, calling someone that said "meow" a loser is pretty escalatory. Let him that hath no radio sins cast the first stones…
Oh, C’mon man. Losers are the ones that can’t see the humor in it and chill. I don’t mind knowing someone’s on frequency and listening.