Matt Goodrich
Pre-Flight
I know most of us have PTT, Some have AP disconnect, and electric trim. What are some of the less common? I’ve heard of but not seen Ident. What do you have or want?
I had PTT, trim hat (elevator and roll), ident, radio flip-flop and AP engage/disengage.
Rarely used the ident button.
PTT, elevator trim, AP disconnect, CWS, PTC
Control Wheel Steering. An autopilot mode you can use if you want to set a fixed turn rate or similar.CWS?
...and aren't manipulated when there's something otherwise occupying the pilot's hands. There is no flip-flop, but the transmit switch on the throttle can transmit on more than one radio of the airplane is so equipped. I'd do that if I had 2 radios but would not bother with flip-flop. As for engine start, some of us have to (or prefer to) hold the stick and manipulate the throttle during start. Unlike the tactical airplanes i'm most familiar with our start switches have to be manually held in position to start. I don't have a 3rd hand to use a panel-mounted switch, so I put one on the throttle, with appropriate interconnects to prevent engaging when the engine is running.But they don’t have ident, flip-flop and engine start on the stick and throttles. Why not? Because they’re not critical to staying alive, and they don’t have to be switched under extreme time compression.
Two functions mentioned above that I really don't understand the purpose for having on the yoke. Please enlighten me.
Ident - how often are you all using the ident feature that you benefit from having a yoke button? I fly lots of IFR, and most flights I don't get requested to ident at all. Other flights it's one time. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
Flip-flop - basically the same question. Of course, I do a lot of changing of frequencies, but almost always I am given the frequency, read it back, dial it in, then press the flip-flop on the radio itself, where my hand is right then anyway. I suppose for approach/tower/ground switching where you might have the frequency already set you could benefit a little from such a button, but it just doesn't seem to be that much of a benefit to me to warrant a dedicated yoke button.
Obviously others feel differently, I'm curious as to the type of flying you do that makes these two things worth the expense and effort of installing.
Pitch trim, A/P and trim disconnect, Ident, Com flip/flop, Com 1/2 selection, PTT, and the switch for the compass and OAT gauge light. Not really sure why Beech decided that last one needed to be on the yoke, but whatever.
Comm 1/2 selection would be cool. Does this only work with certain audio panels?
I'm curious, I've seen this on airplanes but didn't really see the use case. If you are being handed off from controller to controller wouldn't you still have to change the standby first and then swap it?Oooh, radio flip-flop. I think I would use the crap outta that.
I'm curious, I've seen this on airplanes but didn't really see the use case. If you are being handed off from controller to controller wouldn't you still have to change the standby first and then swap it?
THIS, seems to make more sense to me as you can switch between tower and ground etcComm 1/2 selection would be cool. Does this only work with certain audio panels?
I'm curious, I've seen this on airplanes but didn't really see the use case. If you are being handed off from controller to controller wouldn't you still have to change the standby first and then swap it?
Cool, thanks! Makes sense. A few of the club planes have thisWhen I am out shooting practice approaches, I go CTAF -> Approach -> ATIS (at another airport) -> Tower (at another airport) -> Approach -> ATIS -> CTAF - I never leave the approach frequency, and often have the next set of frequencies tuned up ahead of time. On a cross country it looses its value a bit as you wont know the next sector ahead of time, but you can still use it outside of en route.
CWS ---> Control Wheel Steering. I don't know why they call it that but what it does is temporarily suspended the autopilot while depressed. For example, if you are in altitude hold mode, you can press CWS and initiate a climb. When you release it, the autopilot will take over. You can also use it for turns.CWS?
Departing on an IFR flight plan. You have a departure frequency. Lots of times departing some airports, it can get busy. With the departure frequency already in standby, you just hit a button.I'm curious, I've seen this on airplanes but didn't really see the use case. If you are being handed off from controller to controller wouldn't you still have to change the standby first and then swap it?
Thanks, makes senseDeparting on an IFR flight plan. You have a departure frequency. Lots of times departing some airports, it can get busy. With the departure frequency already in standby, you just hit a button.
Once enroute, the only time I use it is if it's a route I've taken many times and know all the frequencies. I can tell you every frequency and when you'll get handed off with pretty good accuracy between Panama City and Sebastian.
In my case I had four buttons on the stick (not counting trim) so after PTT and AP, I was looking for things to use the buttons for.