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Wednesday I'll be taking my first Flight lesson at my local flight school. It will be an intro flight lesson.

This will also be my first time flying in anything. What should I do to prepare for the flight?
 
Not much to prepare for. Have fun and don't worry the ear to ear grin will go away after a couple of days.
 
Correct, first flight, just relax, enjoy it, and listen to the instructor, s/he will walk you through everything.
 
Just go in and enjoy the ride. The intro flights are designed for zero knowledge and zero preparation.

Hmm, one thing I just thought of. You may want to buy a logbook so that you have something to log the flight in. Other than that just show up and have fun!
 
They'll take care of the logbook at the conclusion of the lesson. Don't worry about bringing or studying anything. Go and enjoy.
 
YES ENJOY YOUR FLIGHT, And don't forget to post your thoughts afterwards. It will be something you'll remember the rest of your LIFE.

Dave G.:blueplane:
 
The lesson plan for introductory flights in my instructor's book has just one thing under completion standards: Have fun! As long as you do that, you've succeeded.

Don't expect anything but a fun time out of it. Your instructor will take care of the rest.
 
Enjoy the flight.............


Warning.. You WILL become addicted.


HI, my name is Ben and I am an aviation addict.:frown2::smilewinkgrin:
 
Ok!! I can't wait to go up!!

What, and how long should I wait to eat before the lesson?

Btw, bout' how much is a logbook?
 
Food- if you're prone to motion sickness, avoid pork. Candied ginger is supposed to be a good thing to eat.

Hopefully you'll be engaged enough in the flight it shouldn't be a concern.
 
Snag, good to see another here that is starting to take lessons. I've yet to take my first lesson, but have been up w/dad plenty of times........yrs ago.

Enjoy the first flight, relax, and have fun w/it. Some things I've done is buy a few books. "Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge", the 2009 FAR/AIM book, PTS Study Guide, and I also bought Sporty's online course for PPL. I also bought MS flight simulator X which I figured out VOR. I've also been look'n over dad's old Sectionals to get familiar with.

I'm not say'n this is what you should do by any means, just what I have done and maybe someone could tell you(and me) what is wasted and what else is needed.

Get used to abbreviations........it's crazy how many there are in aviation. I also have a printout of the aviation alphabet on my desk here to check over every once in a while.

Glad your here and start'n! I won't get to start till bout July due to work, local runway is being redone, and the CFI is busy w/3 others.:frown3:

Good luck and keep us posted! Like ThrashN referred to, your cheeks will hurt from smile'n so much. It's a blast.

Any questions ask them here, this forum is so full of knowledge and has helped me a ton! Very nice people that are willing to help anyone w/anything.

Have fun!
 
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Wednesday I'll be taking my first Flight lesson at my local flight school. It will be an intro flight lesson.

This will also be my first time flying in anything. What should I do to prepare for the flight?

What to expect? The most fun you will ever have with your pants on! :)

Here's what your first ride might be like: Typically, the CFI (Cert. flight instructor) will chat with you about the "Do's and don'ts" in and around the aircraft. Then, your both off to pre-flight. He will introduce the "checklist" and then your off to your first flying experience.

Post back and tell us how it all went!

Blue Skies!
 
Hubby and I went for our Discovery Flight together. I followed the instructor out the the plane and watched him pre-flight. It took a few minutes while he checked the oil, the fuel, and other things that didn't seem important at the time. He showed me how the seatbelts, door handles, and windows work.

To my surprise, he told me to take the pilot's seat and he climbed into the co-pilot's seat. As we taxied out, he joked and gesticulated with his hands. I was amazed when he turned the yoke (like a steering wheel, but different) one way and turned the airplane the other way with his feet. He alternated between instructions, banter, and talking on the radio with the control tower. He reassured me that he would do the takeoff.

Once we were airborne, he pointed to several landmarks and told me where we were going. Then, he let me guide the airplane to the edge of the river. When we got there, I turned the plane left and right with the yoke and then again with the foot pedals. I made the plane go down and up, too. Much too soon, it was time to return to the airport, where the instructor landed. He gave me a chance to guide the airplane on the ground to its parking place, but I botched it pretty good. No sweat, he knew how to fix it just right.

Hubby then climbed into the pilot's seat and I climbed into the back for his Discovery Flight. At the end of the flight, we talked about what we had learned and bought our first logbooks. In all, a superb beginning to our world of flight.
 
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Wednesday I'll be taking my first Flight lesson at my local flight school. It will be an intro flight lesson.

This will also be my first time flying in anything. What should I do to prepare for the flight?

Other than staying away from any computer based "flight simulators" (they will "teach" you all sorts of wrong things you'll have to unlearn later) you don't need to do much. I would recommend eating a light non-greasy meal which will settle your stomach if it happens to be bumpy and you're prone to motion sickness. You might see if you can pick up a copy of a recent "Flight Training" magazine (published by AOPA) to peruse for information and provide subject matter for discussion with the CFI.

I also suggest that you arrange up front with the school the ability to extend your intro flight to a full lesson at the same reduced hourly rate as the demo. You can learn more than twice as much in a full hour than the typical half hour demo flight. Most schools will be fairly flexible with this, especially in the current economic climate which has most of them very hungry for students, but it's a good idea to discuss the matter before the lesson begins.
 
I agree enjoy the flight. For food besides non-greasy I'll add non-acidic, no coffee or orange juice if you're prone to motion sickness.

The only thing I regret from my first lesson/discovery flight is that I took what they gave me, rather than do my own due diligence. Some kid behind the counter chose my flight instructor by who needed students. I bought the whole Cessna training kit because that's what they suggested.

It's fine to do your discovery flight with any qualified instructor, but before you commit to a training program, I suggest you at least meet and perhaps fly with a few instructors. May sound a bit expensive but in the long run an instructor who works well with you is the most cost effective way to go.

As far as which study materials to buy, well it really depends on how you learn. Some like to watch videos, some interactive on line training, others reading.

Joe
 
Other than staying away from any computer based "flight simulators" (they will "teach" you all sorts of wrong things you'll have to unlearn later) you don't need to do much. I would recommend eating a light non-greasy meal which will settle your stomach if it happens to be bumpy and you're prone to motion sickness. You might see if you can pick up a copy of a recent "Flight Training" magazine (published by AOPA) to peruse for information and provide subject matter for discussion with the CFI.

At one time AOPA offered a free six month menbership for student pilots - dunno if they still do. But they have a lot of interactive classes on their website that you might find entertaining - I don't think you have to be a member to access the stuff under the Air Safety Foundation.
http://www.aopa.org, http://www.aopa.org/asf/

The FAA has a lot of (free) stuff on their web site - online versions of "The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge" and "Student Pilots Guide" would be good starters.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/

http://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/courses_tableofcontents.aspx
 
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wow... Thanks for all the replies!! I'll be sure to ask the CFI about the magazine.

Good news is that I'm not prone to motion sickness. I've logged 60+ hours in FSX. I can do rolls all day long no problem.
 
I can do rolls all day long no problem.

Not sure I would have admitted to that as you've probably now learned some bad habits. If you already haven't you might want to go through the lessons on FSX as that might help you unlearn some bad things. Unlike others here, I'm a proponent of using FSX. The thing to do though is approach it as a tool and not a game. You have to be serious when using it. An airplane can kill you while FSX never will. Missing from FSX is the tactile feedback and true 3D perspective you'll get in the plane. When you hit the cross country portion of training (if you're taking a Disco flight and have any money you'll be hooked :) ) FSX will allow you to pre-fly those. Along with Google Earth which will let you see an airport before you ever go there. With a really good computer and tile proxy you can combine the two and really be set. Enjoy your flight and I'm sure we'll se you around here a lot as you progress.
 
For the most part I use FSX as a way to go practice Crop Dusting. I downloaded a AT-802, AT-401, and I'm fixing to download an Agcat.
 
Good news is that I'm not prone to motion sickness. I've logged 60+ hours in FSX. I can do rolls all day long no problem.

Good news on the no motion sickness. But FSX and real life can be quite different. It's purd near impossible to make oneself sick in front of the computer screen. Getting in a real airplane that can actually scramble your inner ear is a whole 'nuther thing.

Here is an exercise for you - find a chair that spins easily (like an office chair). Position it where you won't get hurt if you fall out. Close your eyes, point your head down (chin on your chest), and start turning - slow is OK - say two seconds per revolution. Keep a steady spin going for 30 seconds or so - don't move your head. Then open your eyes and pick up you head to look straight ahead suddenly.

It will be an experience you never had with FSX!!!! :rofl:

On a serious note, the trend, as I understand it, is for people with lots of computer game experience is to rely on the instrument panel. You will likely have to unlearn that habit. Some instructors have been known to cover the whole panel with a chart to make you look outside.
 
I've logged 60+ hours in FSX. I can do rolls all day long no problem.

Kindly stay away from anywhere I will be flying. Thanks.

In fact, can you sign a release so I'll have access to your autopsy report for my research when your bravado catches up to you and it happens in a jurisdiction where the reports aren't available except with a signed release?
 
Some instructors have been known to cover the whole panel with a chart to make you look outside.
My instructor did that with me until I told him "You know, it would be nice to be able to see the airspeed indicator at least unless you're really comfortable with low altitude stall/spin recoveries."
 
Kindly stay away from anywhere I will be flying. Thanks.

In fact, can you sign a release so I'll have access to your autopsy report for my research when your bravado catches up to you and it happens in a jurisdiction where the reports aren't available except with a signed release?
That was uncalled for, Steve. Pilots differ greatly in abilities, and the last thing we need to do is discourage anyone who honestly wants to fly.

Some folks do indeed learn bad habits from flying flight simulators. Not all do. If he has, his instructor will train them out of him. That's his job.

Snaggletooth, ignore Steve here. He thinks he's got the only proper views on aviation safety, and anyone who disagrees with him is automatically unsafe. This even goes for things where he's the only one who believes as he does.
 
My instructor did that with me until I told him "You know, it would be nice to be able to see the airspeed indicator at least unless you're really comfortable with low altitude stall/spin recoveries."
I found the ability to fly / land without an airspeed indicator quite handy when the ASI failed. It was your basic non-event.
 
My instructor did that with me until I told him "You know, it would be nice to be able to see the airspeed indicator at least unless you're really comfortable with low altitude stall/spin recoveries."

To which I hope your instructor replied "you need to FEEL the stall coming on because your airspeed indicator is basically useless at that point."

The 182, for example, doesn't stall in the landing configuration until the airspeed needle is almost on the peg. I remember when I was training for my private I kept looking at the ASI to predict the stall and was unhappy to learn that it didn't happen at the bottom of the white arc like it was "supposed to." But, that's the difference between indicated and calibrated airspeed for ya.

Fly the plane, not the gauges.
 
wow... Thanks for all the replies!! I'll be sure to ask the CFI about the magazine.

Good news is that I'm not prone to motion sickness. I've logged 60+ hours in FSX. I can do rolls all day long no problem.

For the most part I use FSX as a way to go practice Crop Dusting. I downloaded a AT-802, AT-401, and I'm fixing to download an Agcat.

I'll add another vote for "Flight Simulator isn't like real flying"
  • The view out the cockpit is different in real life
  • The controls will feel different- you'll learn about "P-factor" on takeoff if you go beyond the discovery flight
  • You'll learn how turbulance affects a small plane- and how your inner ear reacts to it.
  • There are various rules & regulations you can ignore in flight simulator but are potentially dangerous if ignored in real life. Many of the rules were written in blood, others legislate what should be common sense (such as planning your fuel).
  • I don't know what you use for flight sim controls- many people use just a joystick & yoke. You'll learn about the rudder on a real plane.
I'm not sure SteveinMichigan read the entire thread or he wouldn't have posted as he did. Flight simulator can create bad habits- if you picked up these habits, your instructor will learn you the proper way. I'm pretty sure you won't be rolling all day or crop dusting an a real plane for awhile.

I was also taught to land with the airspeed indicator covered up- you listen to the feel and sound of the plane as well as the view out the windows. You'll know how to "trim" it out for various speeds- all this can't be matched by most home simulators.
 
Snaggletooth, ignore Steve here. He thinks he's got the only proper views on aviation safety, and anyone who disagrees with him is automatically unsafe. This even goes for things where he's the only one who believes as he does.
No, I don't...in fact, not even close. There are a lot of people I disagree with on many things that I still think are fine pilots whom I would fly with. In fact, you're one of them. Actually I agree with YOU on a lot of things (the grounding of your precious Zodiacs for example...it's not a problem with the design that is causing the crashes, it's a problem with the people making and maintaining those particular examples...) but I also disagree with you on others, yet you are one of maybe two people I know and would fly with in a homebuilt.

The reason I called the kid out on what he said was simple and basic: the last thing anyone (you, me, the EAA, the AOPA, etc) wants is another private pilot getting himself killed by pulling the wings or tail off a Cessna, Piper or homebuilt while trying to roll or loop it because he thinks he's Chuck Yeager. If we are not going to learn from, teach others and marginalize those who refuse to learn based upon what causes prior accidents, then what is the point of investigating crashes?

Granted, the way I worded it wasn't the nicest possible, but I get tired of seeing the same mistakes getting people killed and being "polite" doesn't seem to do the trick reducing the rate at which we seem to get ourselves killed. If thinking that perhaps we should not have an open door policy for anyone and everyone flying anything they want and advocating a very proactive stance at minimizing these accidents (even if means being a little harsh at times) makes me a self important little ass who is the "only one who thinks this way", I cheerfully plead guilty.

Pilots differ greatly in abilities, and the last thing we need to do is discourage anyone who honestly wants to fly
As I said, the open door policy is part (a small part) of what gets 700+ people killed every year in GA accidents: If you can't fly commercial aircraft, you can fly Cessnas. If you can't pass your PPL, have too many medical problems or a psych history, there's sport pilot. If you already think you know it all and don't need any training (which could indicate a psych history) or just have too many DUIs, there's ultralights. This is simply the thing I chose to complain to you all about rather than beating my chest and whining about how the "security" measures are ruining general aviation like so many people on here do.

If someone is overtly expressing overconfidence and hubris in regards to their flying- especially before they even get off the ground- then they need to be put in their place, just like you attempted to do to me because we have our disagreements on some aspects of aviation safety. You would do exactly the same to someone who told you "I think I can spin my Zodiac despite the fact that I'm not supposed to!". I don't know a person in this field that cares about their fellow pilots who doesn't speak up. The difference is that I don't care if I hurt his "feelings" by doing so, so I am quite blunt in doing so.

Some folks do indeed learn bad habits from flying flight simulators. Not all do. If he has, his instructor will train them out of him. That's his job.
I've learned a few bad habits that way and my instructor called me on them. Then again, we can't solely rely upon an instructor to correct these attitudes. What if he doesn't mention it to his CFI? What if he just came up with the idea right before his solo? Do we not have a moral obligation to a fellow pilot to do our best to keep him form doing something best described as natural selection at work? It's no different than seeing someone carrying a case of beer towards their plane and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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There's a chance they won't kill themselves or a passenger, but do you want to have to look back if they do and think "Damn, I should have said something".

I found the ability to fly / land without an airspeed indicator quite handy when the ASI failed. It was your basic non-event.
Yes, but introducing that to someone who was still learning to do turns, etc seemed a bit much.
 
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The reason I called the kid out on what he said was simple and basic: the last thing anyone (you, me, the EAA, the AOPA, etc) wants is another private pilot getting himself killed by pulling the wings or tail off a Cessna, Piper or homebuilt while trying to roll or loop it because he thinks he's Chuck Yeager.
Did you catch the part where the thing he rolled was a PC simulator?
 
Rolling a simulator is a poor decision?
No, it's not that (I've done that myself actually). It's the attitude "Well I did this in FSX, I can do it in real life". We have enough dumbass pilots out there that will try to see if they can loop, roll or spin an aircraft just to see if they can do it, we don't need someone trying it because he did it on his computer. It's the same idea that I can land a 747 with a crosswind on FSX, but the problem arises when a person lacks the little voice in their head that says "You probably shouldn't try it for real". That was the feeling that I (and several others (Capt Geoffrey Thorpe, etc) apparently) got from the OP's comment. The only difference was I decided to be blunt and not sugarcoat it for him.
 
Wow! I didn't know a flight simulator like FSX was bad. I'm sorry. Looks like I'm gonna leave the FSX to the kids and stay off.

Glad you guys said something and sorry for the bad info. I was told by someone that it helped him, but I guess it doesn't mean it's right for all.

Again, sorry.:redface:
 
Rolling a simulator is a poor decision?

It is if you either can't separate the game from reality or come to a belief that because you could do it on the simulator you have what it takes to do it without proper training or even the proper airplane in real life. Remember, in the simulator you turn of reality and do anything you'd like to with no consequences. I don't think anyone has suggested that he will do it we're just saying that you can learn some bad things on the simulator and you should remember that. I'm a huge simulator fan and I fly with a Virtual airline and have fun. During my training for my PP I used the simulator for navigational practice. Just because I'm able to fly a 737 in the simulator doesn't lead to believe I could climb in the cockpit in real life and do so.
 
It is if you either can't separate the game from reality or come to a belief that because you could do it on the simulator you have what it takes to do it without proper training or even the proper airplane in real life.
30 seconds flying a real airplane and someone will be able to tell it's nothing like a PC simulator. I think the OP was joking or pulling some chains and he apparently did a good job.
 
Glad you guys said something and sorry for the bad info. I was told by someone that it helped him, but I guess it doesn't mean it's right for all.

Helps with some things (you find out what the dial thingies do), but apparently can lead to a lot of bad habits (not looking out the window, underestimating the real life difficulty, some piloting habits). But I ain't no flight instructor, so ymmv...
 
I knew I should not have said anything about FSX.....

Actually you should have and you should probably make sure you tell your CFI that you've used it when you start training. Again. I'm of the opinion that FSX can be useful in training if approached correctly. Enjoy your disco flight and let us know how you liked it.
 
No, it's not that (I've done that myself actually). It's the attitude "Well I did this in FSX, I can do it in real life". We have enough dumbass pilots out there that will try to see if they can loop, roll or spin an aircraft just to see if they can do it, we don't need someone trying it because he did it on his computer. It's the same idea that I can land a 747 with a crosswind on FSX, but the problem arises when a person lacks the little voice in their head that says "You probably shouldn't try it for real". That was the feeling that I (and several others (Capt Geoffrey Thorpe, etc) apparently) got from the OP's comment. The only difference was I decided to be blunt and not sugarcoat it for him.

Steve, I was the first to recommend staying away from PC "simulators" (aka flying games) but neither I nor anyone else (besides you) suggested that FSX use causes bad judgement. The real issue is exactly what Cap'n Geoffrey stated, it almost inevitably creates a tendency to fly the airplane by reference to it's instruments instead of the view outside.

In any case I can't see anything in...

Snaggletooth said:
wow... Thanks for all the replies!! I'll be sure to ask the CFI about the magazine.

Good news is that I'm not prone to motion sickness. I've logged 60+ hours in FSX. I can do rolls all day long no problem.

...that suggests the author plans to roll a 172 or that he feels that "Well I did this in FSX, I can do it in real life".

That was the feeling that I (and several others (Capt Geoffrey Thorpe, etc) apparently) got from the OP's comment.

I saw nothing in anyone elses posts that indicated they read what you did in Snaggle's posts. And I firmly believe that nothing he posted here indicates any improper attitudes about flight training or flying. Certainly nothing that should have provoked such nasty response. For goodness sakes, the man came here seeking advice on how to best prepare for his first lesson, does that sound like someone who already thinks he knows all that's needed to fly a plane?

SteveInMich said:
The only difference was I decided to be blunt and not sugarcoat it for him.

SteveInMich said:
Kindly stay away from anywhere I will be flying. Thanks.

In fact, can you sign a release so I'll have access to your autopsy report for my research when your bravado catches up to you and it happens in a jurisdiction where the reports aren't available except with a signed release?
Yeah that was blunt and it certainly wasn't sugarcoated, but IMO it was also way over the top and came across to me as a rant against someone or something unrelated to the OP's statements as well as skating way to close to a personal attack.

And unlike Jay, I haven't seen you behave this badly before so I have to wonder what was the real cause of this little tantrum.
 
I knew I should not have said anything about FSX.....

First, let me say I do apologize for how I worded what I said. I figured being blunt was the best approach, but I don't think I should have been quite as snide about it as I was.

As someone who has a LOT of hours on FS9 and FSX, it's not that you said something about it that provoked it. It has some utility in training, but it is what you specifically said that garnered the response you just witnessed. Take the advice offered by me and by others, keep your mind open and your head out of your butt and never assume you are compotent to do something just because of an experience on FSX or even a single experience in the real world.

Here is my other advice (you can take it or leave it, but this is basically what gets me pegged by people as being difficult):
-Study the mistakes others have made and try to avoid those same mistakes yourself.
-Never assume that something is correct, verify the hell out of it and don't take people's word for it but still keep an open mind (this approach is why JMaynard thinks I am so stubborn and misguided....I question a lot of things he holds dear until there is sufficient data to prove one way or the other).

As much of a jerk as I am (and I freely admit it), the last thing I want is to hear about a crash and especially one that happened because of poor decision making when it is someone I have talked to or known. I buried several friends last year and never want to have another year like that.

Be safe, be smart and never stop learning. The day you think you've learned everything or the day you think there isn't someone out there who can teach you something, that's the day to quit flying because you've crossed a line into being a danger to yourself, your passengers and everyone else around you in the air.

Unless someone else has questions or comments on this, I have nothing more to add at this time.
 
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