Spin testing video: DA40NG

Wow,.. he was having fun that day :cornut:

I really liked the view of the turning and then entering spin,.. pretty hard skid and then almost a tumble as it entered the spin. That must have been a wild ride.

Nothing like the feeling of that first entry during spin training,... it's AMAZING how fast it flips over and you are lookin down. :eek:
 
Rob Schaffer said:
Wow,.. he was having fun that day :cornut:

I really liked the view of the turning and then entering spin,.. pretty hard skid and then almost a tumble as it entered the spin. That must have been a wild ride.

Nothing like the feeling of that first entry during spin training,... it's AMAZING how fast it flips over and you are lookin down. :eek:
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Yes. Spin training was the best part of getting my PPL.
 
Same here. That looked like a heck of a lot of fun.

Also showed the importance of getting the opposite rudder in early in the DA40 for sure... the altitude lost on the "abnormal - elevator first" recoveries looked to be quite a bit more, but I didn't blow it up full-screen to stare at the altimeter.

Those over-the-top entries from the turns definitely looked like the most fun one could have with clothes on.

And typical that it whips over better to the left than to the right... thank all those "left turning tendency" basics, for the added push. :D
 
Rob Schaffer said:
Wow,.. he was having fun that day :cornut:

I really liked the view of the turning and then entering spin,.. pretty hard skid and then almost a tumble as it entered the spin. That must have been a wild ride.

Nothing like the feeling of that first entry during spin training,... it's AMAZING how fast it flips over and you are lookin down. :eek:
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Yea but it can ruin a lot of ball caps:wink2:
 
denverpilot said:
Also showed the importance of getting the opposite rudder in early in the DA40 for sure... the altitude lost on the "abnormal - elevator first" recoveries looked to be quite a bit more, but I didn't blow it up full-screen to stare at the altimeter.
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Pretty true of most airplanes, I think - Doing aggravated spins in the Extra was an eye-opener. Since a spin needs a stall, break the stall and you'll recover, right? WRONG! Down elevator roughly doubled the rate of spin and increased the rate of descent too. :hairraise: and then :goofy:!
 
The more you do, the less you feel sick. I love spins, because for a few seconds, you're zero G, and the world is literally upside down, but YOU have the power to make it right! Would that the politics of the world were like that!
 
Dragging a wing on the vertical down after the 1-1/4 turn spins. :D
 
whifferdill said:
Dragging a wing on the vertical down after the 1-1/4 turn spins. :D
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Forced entry on all but the last one too. Some of them looked more like snap rolls than spins. :)

Also, at 3:35 in the video they're describing an abnormal spin entry where the ailerons are going to be full opposite. Then they do the spin and I see some minor wiggling around of the stick but nothing that looks like full opposite aileron. Same thing for the spin at 5:00 in the video. It doesn't look like the pilot is doing what the test procedure describes?
 
Also noticed that on most of those recoveries, the pilot pushed the stick forward before applying opposite rudder. Obviously gets it done in this airplane, but not good technique in general. Some airplanes can get some rudder blanking going on if you push the stick forward before applying rudder, not to mention accelerating the spin as well if the rudder gets blanked and doesn't immediately stop the rotation. The recovery steps written out at the beginning of the video were right. The pilot didn't quite follow them as written, though.
 
PittsDriver said:
Also, at 3:35 in the video they're describing an abnormal spin entry where the ailerons are going to be full opposite. Then they do the spin and I see some minor wiggling around of the stick but nothing that looks like full opposite aileron. Same thing for the spin at 5:00 in the video. It doesn't look like the pilot is doing what the test procedure describes?
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That is full opposite aileron - But he's sure not holding it for a full turn, especially in the first one after 3:35. It looks like the camera on the stick was at a slightly different angle for the two shots you mention.

He's also definitely going full forward stick right away on the recoveries. :dunno:
 
whifferdill said:
The recovery steps written out at the beginning of the video were right. The pilot didn't quite follow them as written, though.
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Agreed. The blanking effect wouldn't be an issue on a t-tail I would assume? But that also makes me wonder if you could accelerate a spin by forward stick and would the rudder be more or less effective in that maneuver in the DA40? My Pitts is the only airplane I've ever performed accelerated spins in and you really need to get the stick back and get it spinning normally again to recover quickly. I have to admit it was an eye-opener the first time Finagin got me into an accelerated spin and asked me to push on the opposite rudder. It felt like the rudder wasn't even connected and nothing happens.

It kind makes me wonder now how the DA40 would have performed if the pilot had followed the procedure precisely. With 75% MCP, spinning to the left with full opposite aileron would it have flattened out the spin? I'm gonna guess that as long as you get the power all off and even just neutralize the controls, that it'll recover just as nicely as anything the procedure says to do.
 
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