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kayoh190 said:
Hats are optional for us too. I don't wear mine - I'm tall and skinny as it is, I think the hat will just make me look more like a complete dips***t than I already do. Heh! :)

Generally it's just the older guys that wear the hat around my airline. That and the long sleeved shirts.
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They offered us sweaters as well. I don't think those look good.
 
I'll wear a hat when they pay us to wear a hat...

Headsets, you'll see lots of guys using Telex's of either the 750 or 850 variety. Some guys on Bose, a few odd ball things out there too. Technically I believe it is supposed to be TSO'd, but you will find guys who don't have TSO'd stuff. Personally I love the sweater, but I didn't do one this winter to save a bit of money. Come fall when the outer garment is required again, I'll probably go that route.
 
Pilot basing is not a binary choice. One is not limited to only transcon jumpseat or living in town. Living 3-4 hours can be a viable alternative. Granted, regional work rules and regional pay may not be worth the opportunity cost. I'd certainly not move a family around for a regional job. For a childless dude, this entire conversation is a non issue. That job was created around his very demographic.
 
hindsight2020 said:
Pilot basing is not a binary choice. One is not limited to only transcon jumpseat or living in town. Living 3-4 hours can be a viable alternative. Granted, regional work rules and regional pay may not be worth the opportunity cost. I'd certainly not move a family around for a regional job. For a childless dude, this entire conversation is a non issue. That job was created around his very demographic.
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I'm the childless dude!
 
We had another open book test today on CAT II operations. Did some fire training and got to see how the emergency exit, boarding door and cockpit escape hatch work. Our instructor said we don't need to study much for tomorrow so our class is heading out to celebrate Cinco de Mayo!
 
jordane93 said:
They offered us sweaters as well. I don't think those look good.
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Flying in cold climates that sweater is awesome. I wore it all winter with my leather flight jacket. SKW provides two shirts and two slacks, everything else is up to you but at a decent discount. The hat does wonders for cover wild hair on standups!
 
I refuse the hat, but I will wear a sweater.That said, I am not at Skywest or Endevour (Envoy?).
 
LDJones said:
Flying in cold climates that sweater is awesome. I wore it all winter with my leather flight jacket. SKW provides two shirts and two slacks, everything else is up to you but at a decent discount. The hat does wonders for cover wild hair on standups!
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And headset head. Haha.

I flew up to my mom's town yesterday, both as an early Mother's Day visit and also to do the stupid family tech support of messing with her husband's computer.

About four hours in, I walked into the bathroom to do my thing and looked in the mirror and even my really short hair was standing straight up in funny angles... Then I realized it was headset head. Ha.
 
denverpilot said:
And headset head. Haha.

I flew up to my mom's town yesterday, both as an early Mother's Day visit and also to do the stupid family tech support of messing with her husband's computer.

About four hours in, I walked into the bathroom to do my thing and looked in the mirror and even my really short hair was standing straight up in funny angles... Then I realized it was headset head. Ha.
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Yeah.... But hat-head can be worse.
 
Jordan... If you take anything away from this forum, let it be "just say NO to the hat".
Seriously, you show up for day 1 of IOE and meet your capt.... You are wearing the lid, he is not. Major interior snickers happening here. Now, if he is the one if the few rare Cowboys that proudly don the derby, than you are in!!! Already passed your IOE!!!
 
Okay Jordan, it’s almost midnight, and I’ve had a non-insignificant amount of beer with some of my buddies this evening. I’m happy to see you starting your 121 career, but I feel like we need to talk.

We need to talk about flight attendants.

I’m not going to tell you to stay away from them. There’s a constant running joke about the age or attractiveness of domestic flight attendants, and while it’s mostly true and kinda douchey, the reality is that all airlines - regional, national, legacy, or whatever - are hiring some SMOKING HOT women right now. And you’re going to have some on your airplane. And let me tell you buddy - they’re gonna LOVE you.

So go crush it. No way am I gonna tell you to do anything else. Just be careful. There are a number of flight attendants that are, for lack of a better term, completely f***ing nuts. Like poking holes in condoms nuts. To many of them, you’re a pension plan. Be careful of this. On this board, you strike me as a nice guy. Imagine a scenario where you offer to escort a drunk FA back to her room, and she invites you in. You, being a nice guy, decline the offer, and she gets ****ed. Next thing you know, you’re talking to HR about a rape charge.

It happens. So be careful. Part of me wants to tell you to never put yourself 1-on-1 with an FA without a witness. The other part - especially the part the was never a regional pilot - wants to tell you to have a *great* time and tell us all about it. :) You’re young. You’re at a regional that has the best possible path to the company where your Dad works, and where you want to be. I just don’t want to see it messed up by some chick that sees you as a walking, flying ATM. Be careful out there.
 
kayoh190 said:
Okay Jordan, it’s almost midnight, and I’ve had a non-insignificant amount of beer with some of my buddies this evening. I’m happy to see you starting your 121 career, but I feel like we need to talk.

We need to talk about flight attendants.

I’m not going to tell you to stay away from them. There’s a constant running joke about the age or attractiveness of domestic flight attendants, and while it’s mostly true and kinda douchey, the reality is that all airlines - regional, national, legacy, or whatever - are hiring some SMOKING HOT women right now. And you’re going to have some on your airplane. And let me tell you buddy - they’re gonna LOVE you.

So go crush it. No way am I gonna tell you to do anything else. Just be careful. There are a number of flight attendants that are, for lack of a better term, completely f***ing nuts. Like poking holes in condoms nuts. To many of them, you’re a pension plan. Be careful of this. On this board, you strike me as a nice guy. Imagine a scenario where you offer to escort a drunk FA back to her room, and she invites you in. You, being a nice guy, decline the offer, and she gets ****ed. Next thing you know, you’re talking to HR about a rape charge.

It happens. So be careful. Part of me wants to tell you to never put yourself 1-on-1 with an FA without a witness. The other part - especially the part the was never a regional pilot - wants to tell you to have a *great* time and tell us all about it. :) You’re young. You’re at a regional that has the best possible path to the company where your Dad works, and where you want to be. I just don’t want to see it messed up by some chick that sees you as a walking, flying ATM. Be careful out there.
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I believe in a crj200 they have one (1) flight attendant. The odds are very good it will be a gay male. If not, perhaps a straight make. Either way is NOT GOOD. The odds of a one good looking female that is interested in the first officer???? I'd play the powerball.
 
Kritchlow said:
The odds of a one good looking female that is interested in the first officer???? I'd play the powerball.
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Yeah it's not likely, but not impossible either! I'm just being proactive. ;)
 
kayoh190 said:
Okay Jordan, it’s almost midnight, and I’ve had a non-insignificant amount of beer with some of my buddies this evening. I’m happy to see you starting your 121 career, but I feel like we need to talk.

We need to talk about flight attendants.

I’m not going to tell you to stay away from them. There’s a constant running joke about the age or attractiveness of domestic flight attendants, and while it’s mostly true and kinda douchey, the reality is that all airlines - regional, national, legacy, or whatever - are hiring some SMOKING HOT women right now. And you’re going to have some on your airplane. And let me tell you buddy - they’re gonna LOVE you.
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Unfortunately (fortunately), not at 9E. Most of the F/A fit in the 3G categories at the airline. The hot ones are just going straight to DL in the area's that 9E flies.

Not that they don't do their job well, they are very professional. In the 6 months I've been here, it seems like 70% of the people I've flown with are in the slam click category.
 
For those who don't get the reference, youtube "gays grannys and grandes" and click on the fantabulous Southwest 737. I won't embed since it's NSFW. That ----t never gets old! ;):D
 
kayoh190 said:
Okay Jordan, it’s almost midnight, and I’ve had a non-insignificant amount of beer with some of my buddies this evening. I’m happy to see you starting your 121 career, but I feel like we need to talk.

We need to talk about flight attendants.

I’m not going to tell you to stay away from them. There’s a constant running joke about the age or attractiveness of domestic flight attendants, and while it’s mostly true and kinda douchey, the reality is that all airlines - regional, national, legacy, or whatever - are hiring some SMOKING HOT women right now. And you’re going to have some on your airplane. And let me tell you buddy - they’re gonna LOVE you.

So go crush it. No way am I gonna tell you to do anything else. Just be careful. There are a number of flight attendants that are, for lack of a better term, completely f***ing nuts. Like poking holes in condoms nuts. To many of them, you’re a pension plan. Be careful of this. On this board, you strike me as a nice guy. Imagine a scenario where you offer to escort a drunk FA back to her room, and she invites you in. You, being a nice guy, decline the offer, and she gets ****ed. Next thing you know, you’re talking to HR about a rape charge.

It happens. So be careful. Part of me wants to tell you to never put yourself 1-on-1 with an FA without a witness. The other part - especially the part the was never a regional pilot - wants to tell you to have a *great* time and tell us all about it. :) You’re young. You’re at a regional that has the best possible path to the company where your Dad works, and where you want to be. I just don’t want to see it messed up by some chick that sees you as a walking, flying ATM. Be careful out there.
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This needs to be an airline sticky!
 
You guys are bumming me out! I went the corporate route, and always kind of figured I missed out on regional pilot hijinks. Being young, partying in the crashpad and on the road, fooling around with the FAs - that sort of thing. I'm too old for that crap now, but I thought I'd be able to live vicariously through some of the young guys on this board.

Way to deliver a heavy dose of reality, fellas! :) :)
 
The ones still getting over just won't talk or tell about it. It still goes on believe me. Many of the 40-50s year old FAs fool around. Unfortunately seems they don't hire the young hot ones, or if they do they're working on that MRS degree. Y'all know how they get prettier the more beers one has consumed...what happens on the overnight stays on the overnight.
 
96 on my General Subjects test today. Should have been a 98 but I always make at least 1 dumb mistake on the tests. I need to slow my pace down as this is a reoccurring habit. We were done early today at noon so some of us from class are going to the Mall of America to eat and drink! The next 9 days will be even more intense with systems. Systems test will be on the 20th then we'll be doing FTDs. So far the experience has been very intense but also fun. We have a nice diverse group of pilots from all backgrounds. As a pilot who hasn't flown any jet I've formed study groups with the guys who have jet and transport category experience and they've helped me out a lot. Also another class started today and there's like 30 people in it. More seniority!
 
Good for you, again, relax and have some fun today while you get a chance. Systems is where it starts to drag on you. Have you guys been assigned your FTD & sim schedule yet, or are they still working on that?
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Good for you, again, relax and have some fun today while you get a chance. Systems is where it starts to drag on you. Have you guys been assigned your FTD & sim schedule yet, or are they still working on that?
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No FTD or sim schedule yet. A few people got their first jump seat observation scheduled. The class that was 2 weeks ahead has a few weeks off in between ground and FTDs. They'll be going to Phoenix for the sims as well.
 
mscard88 said:
The ones still getting over just won't talk or tell about it. It still goes on believe me. Many of the 40-50s year old FAs fool around. Unfortunately seems they don't hire the young hot ones, or if they do they're working on that MRS degree. Y'all know how they get prettier the more beers one has consumed...what happens on the overnight stays on the overnight.
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A squadron bro of mine, SW new-hire, saw floppy cougar SW FA titee the first trip out of IOE on a STL layover at a SW local hangout.

Basically, the young hot 20-some squirrel attention span, MRS degree CA-chaser demographic are at a premium (you don't want a paycheck chaser wife anyways bro, looks fade but "chilamony" female pension plans don't for another 20+ years). But the mid 30s-late 40s cougar who hates her home life/unfaithful (or swinger/open marriage to be fair), or otherwise serial divorcee? Those are at a surplus. The latter demographic is seriously easy to lay, but it's just like riding a moped: it's a pretty good time until your friends find out.

Definitively nothing good comes out of relating to these people outside the hotel room. too much drama. And whatever you do, don't do it in her room, bring your own armor, always always pull out and don't let her anywhere near usable quantities of your DNA. That's just basic life skills BROfessor. Clear as mud? Now go forth and sin some more :D

for a young guy with no strings, this is a turkeyshoot.
 
jordane93 said:
No FTD or sim schedule yet. A few people got their first jump seat observation scheduled. The class that was 2 weeks ahead has a few weeks off in between ground and FTDs. They'll be going to Phoenix for the sims as well.
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Nice, PHX was nice in the winter, rather than being in MSP. The sim is much nicer out there as well. If you end up doing your FAM flights in DTW let me know, I'm around the airport quite a bit, I pick up constantly these days.
 
I'm ashamed, I haven't been keeping up on this thread. but now that I know there's been some goals laid out (tail), I would like to offer some solid advice.




eh, who am I kidding, I have no solid advice. best of luck to you and I hope you get not ONE, but TWO FA's......sht, maybe even sisters. while you're at it, shoot for a mother/daughter combo. the fatter ones don't require much effort, but they are harder to get into the lavatory. oops, did I say 'fatter'? I meant, uh, 'metabolism-deprived'. redheads are a handful. best of all, asian babes. talk about stick shakers OW OW OW. hey, actually, it turns out I DO have some good advice!
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Nice, PHX was nice in the winter, rather than being in MSP. The sim is much nicer out there as well. If you end up doing your FAM flights in DTW let me know, I'm around the airport quite a bit, I pick up constantly these days.
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DTW-AZO and MSP-RST are my jump seat flights. I have a huge break in between. The DTW flight is on June 3 and the MSP is on June 27.
 
Day 1 of systems complete. I need to massage my brain and it wasn't even the difficult systems! We talked about the aircraft, limitations, interior/exterior lighting, water system, doors and I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. It's tough when the most complex plane you've flown is a 172.
 
jordane93 said:
DTW-AZO and MSP-RST are my jump seat flights. I have a huge break in between. The DTW flight is on June 3 and the MSP is on June 27.
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Man, that sucks, those are super, super, super fast flights where you won't have any time to ask questions to the guys.
 
jordane93 said:
No FTD or sim schedule yet. A few people got their first jump seat observation scheduled. The class that was 2 weeks ahead has a few weeks off in between ground and FTDs. They'll be going to Phoenix for the sims as well.
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if you get that time off use it well, know your flows, callouts and profiles down COLD. it makes it a whole lot easier in the ftd and sim.

bob
 
unsafervguy said:
if you get that time off use it well, know your flows, callouts and profiles down COLD. it makes it a whole lot easier in the ftd and sim.

bob
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Definitely. I overheard some guys saying they were going to take a vacation. I could never do that. I wouldn't stay focused.
 
Today was very intense. We did the APU, oxygen and electrical systems with the electrical being the most instense. My brain was fried after lunch and I'm going to have to review a lot tonight. We also got the rest of our schedules for training. I start FTDs on June 3rd and I have my LOE on July 1st. I got paired up with a 6000 hour Citation 135 pilot. FTDs will be in MSP, sims will be in PHX, and LOE is back in MSP.
 
It's hard to believe that I only have 1 more week of ground school. We have our systems exam on Thursday and the 20th we graduate from ground school.
 
jordane93 said:
Today was very intense. We did the APU, oxygen and electrical systems with the electrical being the most instense. My brain was fried after lunch and I'm going to have to review a lot tonight. We also got the rest of our schedules for training. I start FTDs on June 3rd and I have my LOE on July 1st. I got paired up with a 6000 hour Citation 135 pilot. FTDs will be in MSP, sims will be in PHX, and LOE is back in MSP.
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Hang in there, it's intense, but stay focused and it will fall in place in time. Electrical is always one of the most involved systems. I know what your feeling, I just finnished my type on the bus today. It's worth it when they punch that hole in you cert and hand you that new type rating.

Bob
 
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