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Spanish bullfighting fans witnessed the ultimate ring horror on Wednesday when matador Israel Lancho was gored. According to press reports, Lancho had a 25 centimeter-deep stomach wound that surgeons operated on. He's now said to be in serious condition.
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That is gonna leave a mark! :yikes::yikes:
 
you know, you take a critter as charged up as a bull and torment the living hell out of it with picas and bandarillas, you're liable to get more than you want. And you're liable to deserve every damn bit of what you get.

No sympathy. :no:
 
etsisk said:
you know, you take a critter as charged up as a bull and torment the living hell out of it with picas and bandarillas, you're liable to get more than you want. And you're liable to deserve every damn bit of what you get.

No sympathy. :no:
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I withheld my view on bullfighting, but I think you and may share them. Although I'll bet that some people will be off skulking that I had some sort of nefarious plan in mind when I posted this. Furthermore, they may think the MC is in cohoots with me to put forward some sort of animal rights agenda.

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:rolleyes::rolleyes: :rofl::rofl: :D:D ;) ;)

But that goring still hurts!
 
etsisk said:
...and torment the living hell out of it with picas and bandarillas
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They are not just tormenting the bull. The Picadors are severing muscle so that the bull's ability to move his head is degraded and it cannot hold his head up high. Hardly a fair fight.
No sympathy. :no:
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+1.

-Skip
 
Skip Miller said:
They are not just tormenting the bull. The Picadors are severing muscle so that the bull's ability to move his head is degraded and it cannot hold his head up high. Hardly a fair fight.


+1.

-Skip
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Obviously the Picador's didn't do their job tonight, did they? El toro is holding his head pretty high, I'd say. And that's even after the matador missed the heart with his first sword.

I'm not as anti-bullfighting as some of these comments, but sometimes it's fun to see the bull win. Same with other Darwin award candidates who try to do stupid things. I like to see the mountain/alligator/rattlesnake/great white shark/ocean win every once in a while, just to keep the gene pool smarter.
 
<<< Sees no problem with harassing bulls like her great-great-great-great-great...(x18)-great-great-grandparents did.
 
nddons said:
Obviously the Picador's didn't do their job tonight, did they? El toro is holding his head pretty high, I'd say. And that's even after the matador missed the heart with his first sword.
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Huh... I thought they went for the spinal cord. I went to a bullfight in Barcelona a few years ago, and one matador did sever the spinal cord. Bull pretty much turned into jelly and hit the ground.

I didn't know about the neck muscle thing, but it seemed to me that they also got the bull bleeding quite a bit before the matador got going, so it was quite weak by the end.
 
nddons said:
I'm not as anti-bullfighting as some of these comments, but sometimes it's fun to see the bull win.
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The bull NEVER, EVER wins. It is not like they rush the bull to the vet, fix him up and then let him retire to a nice farm on the coasta del sol. He will be killed.
 
I don't care what one's position is on bull-fighting, that horn is still gonna hurt. Bad!
 
Bull fighting is wrong.

They slice tendons to keep the bull's head down, and the bull is in immense pain the whole time. He is not charging to attack to the matador, but rather he is confused and scared, and being tormented in his last few minutes of life.

I could bring up a nice comparison with the rest of Mexican tradition, but I'll save the drama, lets just say, this is typical. And yes, I know it started in Spain.
 
I really despise bull fighting. The spaniards have many different barbaric activities that I swear they got from the romans. Other activities are hanging ducks (I think, or maybe gesse) on a high wire and trying to rip their heads off as you ride a horse under them.

You like sticking things in bulls? well it works the other way too...
 
Tomahawk674 said:
Other activities are hanging ducks (I think, or maybe gesse) on a high wire and trying to rip their heads off as you ride a horse under them.
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No kidding? That's seriously wacked-out! And people think baseball is senseless?????
 
Tomahawk674 said:
I really despise bull fighting. The spaniards have many different barbaric activities that I swear they got from the romans. Other activities are hanging ducks (I think, or maybe gesse) on a high wire and trying to rip their heads off as you ride a horse under them.

You like sticking things in bulls? well it works the other way too...
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Now, I'd go for rip'n goose heads off! All else is bad except for goose heads! When I was a kid I hated those POS's! Pinch'n the back of my legs and IF I got caught kick'n one I was in deep ____. A dead duck is "good eats"......a dead goose is a party! Down w/the down!

Great...........back to the therapy!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: (bud light)
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Huh... I thought they went for the spinal cord. I went to a bullfight in Barcelona a few years ago, and one matador did sever the spinal cord. Bull pretty much turned into jelly and hit the ground.

I didn't know about the neck muscle thing, but it seemed to me that they also got the bull bleeding quite a bit before the matador got going, so it was quite weak by the end.
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The picadors jab the bull with decorated wooden sticks with say a 2-3" barb at the end of them. That, I understand, cuts some neck muscles or otherwise makes it more difficult to raise its head and otherwise be more dangerous for the matador. The matador is the only one to insert the sword, and I understand he is not aiming for the spinal cord, it being covered in bone and all, but the heart. It's all in the angle of the sword. If he misses and the bull doesn't die, they try it again.

I'm not a matador, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
mikea said:
<<< Sees no problem with harassing bulls like her great-great-great-great-great...(x18)-great-great-grandparents did.
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Harassing is a bit of a weak word. The correct word would be -- killing. The bulls don't walk away from these events.
 
Good for the bull!
 
jesse said:
Harassing is a bit of a weak word. The correct word would be -- killing. The bulls don't walk away from these events.
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Tormenting? yeah. Torturing? yeah. Doing something that would get you arrested for felony animal cruelty? yeah. Participating in a behavior that's considered benchmark for young up-and-coming serial killers? yeah.

There's nothing about that whole thing that has any validity at all, as far as I'm concerned. No sympathy for that jerk at all. None.
 
I have no interest in watching a bull fight. If you even want to call it a fight. Animal cruelty, pure and simple. In this case, good for the bull.
 
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