So Bill Gates is part-owner of Signature?

LOL ... along with the usual high prices will it become a monthly subscription service with forced updates?

“Oh. You wanted fuel? Fuel filling service is only available in our Enterprise E3 subscription level and above.”

LOL LOL LOL
 
Maybe their rampers will now pour additives in your tanks regardless of whether you buy gas (it's to fix the problems in the previous batch and to give your engine new features that you probably won't use).
 
Now we can all complain about upgrading to Signature 10. "Why do I need to upgrade to Signature 10? Signature 7 was just fine, but it isn't supported anymore."

Or the nostalgic - "I like Signature NT the best. Ah, remember the old days of Signature NT? Those were the days...."

Or the people who are just anti Microsoft - "I'm not going to Signature. I only use UbuntuFBO. Or DebianAir. Open source FBO, man!"
 
Deelee said:
Now we can all complain about upgrading to Signature 10. "Why do I need to upgrade to Signature 10? Signature 7 was just fine, but it isn't supported anymore."

Or the nostalgic - "I like Signature NT the best. Ah, remember the old days of Signature NT? Those were the days...."

Or the people who are just anti Microsoft - "I'm not going to Signature. I only use UbuntuFBO. Or DebianAir. Open source FBO, man!"
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spit take.....
 
Deelee said:
Or the people who are just anti Microsoft - "I'm not going to Signature. I only use UbuntuFBO. Or DebianAir. Open source FBO, man!"
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Arch. The Linux so bad the installation Docs don’t ever work. LOL
 
He sees the shift to more people wanting to fly private and 135 using these new electric planes and their air cars. Or maybe he just wants to add a executive lounge...to an already executive building.
 
wrbix said:
That would be great!.......I’d rather not wait. :D
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It would finally justify the ramp fees. Now if they could figure out how to administer it through the chocolate chip cookies...
 
Jim K said:
It would finally justify the ramp fees. Now if they could figure out how to administer it through the chocolate chip cookies...
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If Gates is involved they'll administer chocolate chip cookies through a hypodermic needle.
 
MacFly said:
I'm surprised that Gates would do this. Apple doesn't have a competing product he can copy.
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Are you one of those people who think that Apple originated the GUI? Try Xerox PARC. Apple didn't invent it. Nor did they invent the PC.

CharlieD3 said:
I'm so old, I remember DOS... You know... Dumb
Ol'
Self-service


Ah, those were the days, my friend...
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I remember long before DOS came along. Before the PC was introduced in the Jan/Feb 1975 issues of Popular Electronics magazine. BTW, where do you think Jobs and Wozniak got the idea? I started programming in 1969 on an IBM 360/67 using the WATFOR compiler for FORTRAN. I was a senior in high school at the time. I remember when DOS came out and people were saying it was "user hostile". It wasn't. IBM JCL was user hostile. The NOS operating system on a CDC Cyber 176, especially as administered by Martin Marietta Data Systems, was user hostile. DOS was a piece of cake.
 
Ghery said:
Are you one of those people who think that Apple originated the GUI? Try Xerox PARC. Apple didn't invent it. Nor did they invent the PC.
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Of course not...everyone knows that whole story. But I am one of those that thinks that Microsoft has been coat-tailing Apple's implementation of existing technology since the day Bill Gates finally realized what had long been so crystal clear to Steve Jobs about the GUI.
 
ooh ooh - can we drift this thread into a back/forth rant-fest over MS-DOS vs Apple (only us old guys actually lived through it....)
 
MacFly said:
Of course not...everyone knows that whole story. But I am one of those that thinks that Microsoft has been coat-tailing Apple's implementation of existing technology since the day Bill Gates finally realized what had long been so crystal clear to Steve Jobs about the GUI.
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Honestly MSFT passed up Apple in whole disk encryption long ago and central OS control decades ago. Apple still has barely bothered on the latter. FileVault did finally catch Bitlocker but still isn’t centrally manageable or monitorable, with Apple native tools — and Apple has nothing even close to Azure AD. AppleID is a disaster on corporate owned systems. It’s consumer grade. Not Enterprise grade.

They also haven’t done a significant UI update since the beginning of OSX, for better or worse. Depending on what one wants in a UI. Microsoft’s UI didn’t exactly get “better” but it did change multiple times. Heh.
 
Some people are still pretty invested in that old argument. Honestly, I don't care enough but you guys go ahead.
 
Bob Noel said:
ooh ooh - can we drift this thread into a back/forth rant-fest over MS-DOS vs Apple (only us old guys actually lived through it....)
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Bunch of amateurs in here. We all on know the Amiga computer was where it was at.
 
What about CP/M? :D
 
I have used CP/M, RSTS-E, DOS, RT-11, some oddball one-offs on systems from the 70s whose names I can’t even remember. I’ve toggled machine language loops into System/360 processors via front panel switches to isolate bad core memory planes. And honestly, I don’t miss a damn one of them for daily use. Sure, I’d love to have a PDP-11 sitting here so I could wander through Colossal Cave again — it’s just not the same at anything more than 9600 baud — but that’s just nostalgia. I doubt I could really sit through more than an episode or two of Johnny Quest, either. I have an E6B I’ve mostly forgotten how to use, and I really don’t care.

There. Is there anyone I missed offending? :)

I would pay good money for a 2030 or 2040 front panel to hang on my office wall, though. Bonus bucks if it came from an ex-Army frame.
 
DaleB said:
I have used CP/M, RSTS-E, DOS, RT-11, some oddball one-offs on systems from the 70s whose names I can’t even remember. I’ve toggled machine language loops into System/360 processors via front panel switches to isolate bad core memory planes. And honestly, I don’t miss a damn one of them for daily use. Sure, I’d love to have a PDP-11 sitting here so I could wander through Colossal Cave again — it’s just not the same at anything more than 9600 baud — but that’s just nostalgia. I doubt I could really sit through more than an episode or two of Johnny Quest, either. I have an E6B I’ve mostly forgotten how to use, and I really don’t care.

There. Is there anyone I missed offending? :)

I would pay good money for a 2030 or 2040 front panel to hang on my office wall, though. Bonus bucks if it came from an ex-Army frame.
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There are a number of implementations of Colossal Cave Adventure available. I don't know whether any of them would give you the 9600-baud experience though. ;)

http://rickadams.org/adventure/

Wikipedia has a link to a Windows executable version of Crowther's original Adventure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure#External_links
 
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Palmpilot said:
There are a number of implementations of Colossal Cave Adventure available. I don't know whether any of them would give you the 9600-baud experience though. ;)
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Just not the same as doing it on an old serial terminal like an ADM-3A.
 
denverpilot said:
They also haven’t done a significant UI update since the beginning of OSX, for better or worse. Depending on what one wants in a UI. Microsoft’s UI didn’t exactly get “better” but it did change multiple times. Heh.
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Changing the UI is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
 
CP/M wasn't too bad, though I actually started with SSB-DOS, an enhancement of the SWTPC DOS for their 6800 based system, which was my first computer. DR-DOS was much better than MS-DOS and their GEM GUI was far superior to the earliest versions of WinDoze.
 
denverpilot said:
Honestly MSFT passed up Apple in whole disk encryption long ago and central OS control decades ago. Apple still has barely bothered on the latter. FileVault did finally catch Bitlocker but still isn’t centrally manageable or monitorable, with Apple native tools — and Apple has nothing even close to Azure AD. AppleID is a disaster on corporate owned systems. It’s consumer grade. Not Enterprise grade.
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The business enterprise isn't Apple's target market. Without a whole family of server OS and functions they never will be since MS simply owned the space. Apple is after the individual user, even though a lot of us use OS X in a business environment. They chose not to be in that environment.

I've worked with it all over the years and for work (at least on prem) it's MS and Red Hat. For off-prem it's AWS. For me at home? I run Mac's and their end-point unique stuff (iPad, iPhones, iPods, laptops and desktops) and have since 1986.

denverpilot said:
They also haven’t done a significant UI update since the beginning of OSX, for better or worse. Depending on what one wants in a UI. Microsoft’s UI didn’t exactly get “better” but it did change multiple times. Heh.
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Change for change sake isn't exactly admirable. o_O
 
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