Shortest strip I have landed at, Cessna 182.

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Private strip in Washington, own by an airline pilot, this is short, 700ft after the boat on the left its a run off but dont count on that, you will hit trees, so usable its really 700ft.
One way in, cliff with downdrafts.

Only go there with light or calm winds.

 
I don’t have an issue with landing in 700’, but departing???
 
Looks like some helpful slope coming and going.



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Gotta know your scheet and be confident in the equipment for this stuff!! Great job. Love to watch these vids
 
OK, so I heard your stall horn on the approach, it's quite obvious you're holding airspeed right above where the horn sounds. I assume that means you're behind the curve and have a pretty decent about of power dialed in on approach.

So, what's your plan if you have engine failure on short final? Just wondering...
 
Bill Jennings said:
OK, so I heard your stall horn on the approach, it's quite obvious you're holding airspeed right above where the horn sounds. I assume that means you're behind the curve and have a pretty decent about of power dialed in on approach.

So, what's your plan if you have engine failure on short final? Just wondering...
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From the vid, RPM on final was 1900-2100 range. Short final about 1500.

Engine failure anywhere here, final or not, looks like it puts it in the trees. But incremental/additional failure risk/probability on final is kind of immaterial. Yes, still possible. But no more likely than the prior minutes or hours of the flight before the landing approach. I get it, why add any more risk, right? But the whole flying thing is on its own risk spectrum, from “safe” training to aerobatics. This just happens to be typical back country STOL risk (some may argue why take risk, any risk).

If I practice short-field approaches at my home airport and have an engine out, I’m hitting buildings or trees depending on the runway. And my home field is a university flight school training grounds.
 
455 Bravo Uniform said:
I get it, why add any more risk, right? But the whole flying thing is on its own risk spectrum, from “safe” training to aerobatics. This just happens to be typical back country STOL risk (some may argue why take risk, any risk).
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OH, I wasn't trying to be preachy, just wondered if there was an out if something happened on final. The answer just may well be "I eat bark", and that's fine. If I had an airplane capable of that kind of landing, I'd probably want to learn how to get into places like that.
 
Cool video! My dad used to fly our stock 182P out of a 1200 foot grass strip, it was always fun! I made a point to land there one day after I got my PPL. It sure seemed bigger when I was 12! :D
 
@motoadve If possible, could you place up a maps.google link with your vidz. I'd appreciate getting a look at the lay of the land around the runways.
 
Bill Jennings said:
OH, I wasn't trying to be preachy, just wondered if there was an out if something happened on final. The answer just may well be "I eat bark", and that's fine. If I had an airplane capable of that kind of landing, I'd probably want to learn how to get into places like that.
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Gotcha. Sorry about that, I thought you were being “cheeky” :) .

I have a plane capable of that and I’m only getting a fraction of that kind of performance...I don’t have the skills or the balls yet. Someday.
 
I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think his stall warning horn has been recalibrated for the STOL kit, and that he has an AOA indicator. Sure helps in that kind of flying.
 
455 Bravo Uniform said:
Gotcha. Sorry about that, I thought you were being “cheeky” :) .

I have a plane capable of that and I’m only getting a fraction of that kind of performance...I don’t have the skills or the balls yet. Someday.
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I'm in the 1200-1300ft range right now with me and full fuel. Keep trying to slowly shorten them up each time I fly. Your bird should be able to squeak into some pretty damn short strips
 
islandboy said:
@motoadve If possible, could you place up a maps.google link with your vidz. I'd appreciate getting a look at the lay of the land around the runways.
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Ain't that the truth?
I recently flew into a strip my "wheels" instructor took me into in 1964. He was dropping off a part to the owner of the field. We never went in there again, and I never landed there on my own.
Fast forward to 2018. I flew over the field a few weeks back and my working memory cell fired off and I remembered having been there. When I got home, I called the owner (the grandson of the original owner) and we chatted for a bit and he invited me to drop in. He did warn me it was short and narrow.
In my head I was all "I don't remember it being bad."
I was amazed at how small it had gotten in the intervening years.
One change is that his Dad had cut down the trees on the far end, so it's not one way in/out anymore, but the "new" direction is still not for the faint of heart.
If I wasn't in the Cub or something similar, I probably wouldn't have tried it.
 
I routinely and without drama get the 172 down and turned off in under 1,000'. On my home field where the runway is 7,000' x 150' and has wide open approaches. So I have the skill, but I'm not sure how the slope, trees etc. would increase my pucker factor. I also land and take off at Cedar Key with no fear and no drama, which is 2200' with water at both ends.

I do not have the aircraft nor the skill set of the back country 182 Dude.
 
In Alaska I used to take a C-207 into a 700 to 750 foot strip. That is the length I was told it was, I never walked it to measure it...

I was flying people in for a company that did raft trips down the Kobuk River to Norvik. So going in full and coming out empty. I would let the plane roll to the end where the folks would deplane, then I would turn around and take off in the opposite direction, if the wind would let me. The trees were only 5 to 6 feet tall and were not a problem unless I landed short or rolled out too far.

Like I said, I used to land there. It would probably take more than a few practice shots before I could get in there again.
 
ktup-flyer said:
I'm in the 1200-1300ft range right now with me and full fuel. Keep trying to slowly shorten them up each time I fly. Your bird should be able to squeak into some pretty damn short strips
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Yeah, but doing it with a long hard surface runway available vs a real life short softfield is the difference. My inexperience and lack of courage/confidence keep me out of the real deal.

Attached examples of my short landing and takeoff in my bird. On asphalt. Still practicing.

Landing 550 ft

Takeoff 600 ft

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I wish you good fortunes but I have no doubt, someday we’ll read about you. Not posted by you. Fly safe.
 
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