Second Opinion About Going to a Pediatrics Office

[N_A_M_E_24]

Hello everyone. When I was with my AME last time (which is the first time), he recommended me to see my pediatrician where I was diagnosed with ADHD to make an appointment and explain that I no longer need the medication or the treatment anymore, which is something I probably should've done but didn't do nearly 4 years ago. Can I get a second opinion doing this as a grown man? Do I actually need to do this? It seems like to me if I do the neuropsychological exam, send in my driving records and all my pharmacy records, and prove that I'm not on the drug(s) using 2 different drug tests after finishing the neuropsychological exam, that I am clear, right?

Basically, I stopped taking medication years ago and didn't tell anyone.

Thanks for reading.

 

[murphey]

Do nothing until you contact an AME for a CONSULT. They will give you detailed directions how to proceed.
Do not try this without expert help.
If the AME will not do a consult, thank them nicely and find one that does.

 

[TCABM]

Sounds like the AME you saw is not familiar with the FAAs most recent guidance on ADD/ADHD histories. Hopefully you did not provide the AME with the MedXpress number to take the application active.

You should review all the info and links on the page below and find an AME that does a lot of work with ADD/ADHD applicants to discuss if you’re eligible for the fast track pathway.

https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/adhd

 

[N_A_M_E_24]

Sounds like the AME you saw is not familiar with the FAAs most recent guidance on ADD/ADHD histories. Hopefully you did not provide the AME with the MedXpress number to take the application active.

You should review all the info and links on the page below and find an AME that does a lot of work with ADD/ADHD applicants to discuss if you’re eligible for the fast track pathway.

https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/adhd

Thank you. I have received the deferral from the FAA. That's where I am now. I checked the eligibilities myself and knew I am not eligible for fast track not only because I this was less than 4 years ago but also because I got diagnosed with OCD. I don't need a doctor to tell me this. The FAA process looks very prescribed. Everything that's needed appears to be in the letters and on lists on the internet. If it was something I gotta do, then it would be on the list, I think.

 

[TCABM]

Thank you. I have received the deferral from the FAA. That's where I am now. I checked the eligibilities myself and knew I am not eligible for fast track not only because I this was less than 4 years ago but also because I got diagnosed with OCD. I don't need a doctor to tell me this. The FAA process looks very prescribed. Everything that's needed appears to be in the letters and on lists on the internet. If it was something I gotta do, then it would be on the list, I think.

If you’ve gotten the FAA’s letter in the mail, it should tell you the very specific tasks that must he accomplished for issuance. They’re very prescriptive in what evidence is suitable for issuance.

If you haven’t received the letter, wait a bit and it’ll show up.

 

[ElPaso Pilot]

Thank you. I have received the deferral from the FAA. That's where I am now. I checked the eligibilities myself and knew I am not eligible for fast track not only because I this was less than 4 years ago but also because I got diagnosed with OCD. I don't need a doctor to tell me this. The FAA process looks very prescribed. Everything that's needed appears to be in the letters and on lists on the internet. If it was something I gotta do, then it would be on the list, I think.

The process you see might look prescribed, but there are details the FAA will follow regarding the language that is in (or not in) your submittals.

This part of the FAA guideline isn't published, is very specific, and may send you down pathways you may not be able to recover from (time and/or $$).

Engaging a consult with someone like Dr. Bruce was money well spent for me, and many others.

It can definitely tip the odds of success back in your direction.

 

[Lindberg]

Hello everyone. When I was with my AME last time (which is the first time), he recommended me to see my pediatrician where I was diagnosed with ADHD to make an appointment and explain that I no longer need the medication or the treatment anymore, which is something I probably should've done but didn't do nearly 4 years ago. Can I get a second opinion doing this as a grown man? Do I actually need to do this? It seems like to me if I do the neuropsychological exam, send in my driving records and all my pharmacy records, and prove that I'm not on the drug(s) using 2 different drug tests after finishing the neuropsychological exam, that I am clear, right?

Basically, I stopped taking medication years ago and didn't tell anyone.

Thanks for reading.

When was the last time you saw the pediatrician?

How grown a man are you?

What happened four years ago?

Are you asking if you can get a second medical opinion from SGOTI with limited information to contradict the first opinion from the professional AME, who presumably reviewed your records, has all the information, and gave you an opinion you don't like?

I'm certain the answer to the last one is "yes." The question is, which opinion will be more valid?

 

[Half Fast]

The question is, which opinion will be more valid?

Obviously the more valuable opinion will be from someone who has never examined the applicant. This is why OKC doctors' opinions take precedence over opinions of physicians who actually know the applicant and have examined him.

 

[Lindberg]

Obviously the more valuable opinion will be from someone who has never examined the applicant. This is why OKC doctors' opinions take precedence over opinions of physicians who actually know the applicant and have examined him.

If the applicant uploads his entire medical record for us to review, your comparison will be less specious....

In my life, I've been accurately diagnosed by, and treated based on the diagnosis of, a dozen or more doctors who have never examined me.

 

[Half Fast]

In my life, I've been accurately diagnosed by, and treated based on the diagnosis of, a dozen or more doctors who have never examined me.

Congratulations.

I haven't. Nor would I want to be.

 

[Lindberg]

Congratulations.

I haven't. Nor would I want to be.

You don't have your x-rays/MRIs/CT scans read by radiologists, or your biopsies and other labs examined by pathologists? You've never had a doctor consult with a specialist who hasn't examined you? Ok. But these are regular, everyday occurrences.

 

[Half Fast]

You don't have your x-rays/MRIs/CT scans read by radiologists, or your biopsies and other labs examined by pathologists? You've never had a doctor consult with a specialist who hasn't examined you? Ok. But these are regular, everyday occurrences.

In every case, those specialists provided input to my treating physician who considered the results in the context of other tests, my known conditions, and my overall health. I trust the opinion of the doctor with the most information, and that means one who has examined me and discussed my health with me in addition to receiving test results, lab work, biopsies, etc., and that physician is the one who provides the ultimate diagnosis and treatment plan.

That’s a lot different from some faceless unknown bureaucrat in OKC who has never even spoken with me, much less seen me, and is not a specialist in my condition that required an SI, yet that bureaucrat’s opinion takes precedence.

 

[bbchien]

Fasttrack, an AME can issue. Here are the documents- you WILL need a community PhD. Psychologist, however....