Saw this cool C182 in Tonopah, NV today!!

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I stopped for fuel at Tonopah,NV and this caught my eye at one of the tie downs. The guy at the FBO said it had an O-540 in it plus 12” added to the wing tips.
 

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Tonopah, of all place I've been there. Enjoyed a weekend at a folk fest able. Not sure the canard is worth the trouble.
 
Probably also has Stein's WingX STOL. Don't think the Peterson adds wing extension, does it?
 
AKBill said:
Tonopah, of all place I've been there. Enjoyed a weekend at a folk fest able. Not sure the canard is worth the trouble.
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What trouble? No trouble at all. Maybe you meant the installation cost?
 
Not very popular in the land of bush planes. Skywagons and Cubs are still the real kings.
 
The canard has controlled pitch. There's more to it than a 337. The takeoff and landing performance is impressive. The complexity and field repair difficulty, always a consideration for a bush plane, is a concern. Applicability for floats and skis is another concern. It's a specialty airplane.
 
AKBill said:
I was thinking of the benefit vs installation time and money. I guess you need a 337, not sure of cost and how long it would take to install.
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Yeah, that’s a good question. Yes, STC/337. It involves a new beefy engine mount (which has its own benefits in a crash), the canard which mounts to it, and the elevator portion which involves pushrods and bell-crank. I want to say it’s around $24k, but the shop typically now only takes on full customization projects. Not sure they just take a plane and add a canard anymore these days.

Mine adds the IO-470 Peterson STC too (260hp). They call it a 260 SE. I can take off in 600 ft with about 200lbs from fully loaded. I have done right around 500 ft with just me and 3/4 fuel. Every takeoff is soft field, flaps 20, rotate at 40 kts.


Short field approach is 55kts. Very flat angle of attack (“deck angle” as they say).


Vso is 35 kts. It just mushes, no nose-over.

Worth it? Matter of opinion. I bought mine 3 years ago; Built in the late 1980s. My one motivator to buy the Peterson modded planes was that if I had to screw up an off field engine out, I would hit stuff at much lower speed than other planes.

The King Katmai is 300 hp, and the wing extensions put Vso at 32kts. Take offs in 300 ft or so.
 
Stewartb said:
The canard has controlled pitch. There's more to it than a 337. The takeoff and landing performance is impressive. The complexity and field repair difficulty, always a consideration for a bush plane, is a concern. Applicability for floats and skis is another concern. It's a specialty airplane.
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Yeah, I don’t believe anyone in the world has combined the Peterson canard with floats. A guy in the Toronto area had plans to do so, but sold the plane (or was selling) before he was going to do so. I believe he said the paperwork hassle was the biggest issue.
 
There used to be a Wren parked at the other end of my home field. It went away last summer. I never saw it fly. The Wren had a lot more wing candy that the Peterson version.
 
Stewartb said:
There used to be a Wren parked at the other end of my home field. It went away last summer. I never saw it fly. The Wren had a lot more wing candy that the Peterson version.
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I think the original Wrens had multi-stage Fowler flaps that really enlarged the wing area. Pretty neat; there was one at AKR many decades ago.
 
Stewartb said:
There used to be a Wren parked at the other end of my home field. It went away last summer. I never saw it fly. The Wren had a lot more wing candy that the Peterson version.
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I saw a Wren on display at OSH in 2018. I think it was bought by the owner of Surefire (pistol lights). Not sure if it was the same plane or not, but I don’t think there are many of them around. Pretty complex. The canard elevator had 2 moving surfaces, besides all the wren’s teeth and flap contraptions.
 
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