Santa Monica Airport Landing Fee - oy

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Received the attached from the City . . . TWO things -

Airport Operation: Sept 15

Billing Date: October 15

Postmark Date: October 31

Postmark Location: Northern Virginia

Mail Delivery Date: November 5

So I have nine calendar days to pay the bill before it becomes delinquent and am charged a late fee.

The organization the city uses took 16 days from the 'billing date' to even put the bill in the mail - and then the USPS took 5 calendar days to deliver it across the country. I sent the company a complaint - they cannot take 2/3 of the time to get me the bill, leaving me less than 1/3 of the total time to pay the bill to avoid delinquency.

Second -

The part of the bill marked 'important messages,' where the 30 day late charge appears, also discusses adding a 'seperate' [sp] late charge. I also told them that they should actually spell check their paperwork for a government the size of Santa Monica . . . and that it was not 'good enough for government work.'

Its one thing to charge a landing fee - its another to be treated like this by some company - you know they are absolutely timely about the late fees .. . .

I sent a copy of the email to the City Manager for SMO. SMO may hate their airport, but the taxpayers are entitled to better service from the company who does their billing. . . ..
 

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Wait a minute...the airport in Santa Monica, California is using a company in Northern Virginia to do their billing???
 
As unfortunate as it sounds, this just encourages us to use other airports...

Santa Monica wants they -they can use 'decreased traffic' as yet another specious excuse to close the airport.
 
Two departures on the same day?

I suspect that these bills are generated by some poor clerk listening to a recording of the tower freq and then looking you up on the FAA database.
 
Two departures on the same day?

I suspect that these bills are generated by some poor clerk listening to a recording of the tower freq and then looking you up on the FAA database.


If you are VFR... Always use N12345 for your call sign at airports that have a landing fee.... ;):D
 
If you are VFR... Always use N12345 for your call sign at airports that have a landing fee.... ;):D


Yeah, and if you're at a hotel and charge your bar tab to your room use someone else's room number and name.
 
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If you are VFR... Always use N12345 for your call sign at airports that have a landing fee.... ;):D

Even at towered airports?

All of a sudden they have 4 aircraft in the pattern with the same call sin. :dunno: :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Vector does MASSPORT airports as well. I got a bill from Hanscom (BED) for just passing 10 miles away. Took them 2 months to send the bill.
What I would do, if they are NOT your flights, call and complain to Vector. If they are, when you remit your payment, just photocopy the envelope highlighting the dates.
Absolutely, positively, refuse to pay any late charge. As the donut lady used to say "See you in court, sonny!"
 
Before this spins out of control, yes, they are both my charges - yes - I landed twice that day to drop friends off who live close by - and compared to operating the airplane - and lunch for that matter - $10 is chicken feed. Still feeding a chicken I'd rather not - but its not a large number.

And they responded - and here was the response - not verbatim - but its what they said:

"We had your address wrong. We have not updated your tail number in our records against the FAA database in four YEARS. [thats the effect of their explanation since I changed my address when I moved to California in January 2010] We did not update the tail number for the new address until the bill came back returned in the mail. We then compared our records to the FAA records since we obviously have not downloaded and indexed the aircraft registry in years."

Thats great work if you can get it. . . . I forwarded their explanation on to the City Manager - lets see if he thinks it is as amusing as I do . . .
 
Vector does MASSPORT airports as well. I got a bill from Hanscom (BED) for just passing 10 miles away. Took them 2 months to send the bill.
What I would do, if they are NOT your flights, call and complain to Vector. If they are, when you remit your payment, just photocopy the envelope highlighting the dates.
Absolutely, positively, refuse to pay any late charge. As the donut lady used to say "See you in court, sonny!"

Why does that not surprise me about MassPort. All the more reason I used OWD for my last visit to Boston.
 
Just got two bills from vector one for Bdr, HTO, bills where from May and June 2012. Called to discuss after I assumed the bills where from this year. After agreeing to pay was told I would have to use two separate checks and two separate mailing address's .
 
Just got two bills from vector one for Bdr, HTO, bills where from May and June 2012. Called to discuss after I assumed the bills where from this year. After agreeing to pay was told I would have to use two separate checks and two separate mailing address's .

can't pay online?
 
They want you to set up an account with them first. Not going to happen.

I paid my bill online with not having to set up an account. . . .

you enter operator ID and the invoice number - and it was painless - except for being ripped off for a convenience fee . . .
 
If you are VFR... Always use N12345 for your call sign at airports that have a landing fee.... ;):D

Vector uses mode-S readouts when available and OCR with cameras that shoot the runway.
 
So what are you going to do? Not go back? Isn't that what they want?

No wonder GA is dying. I'd be inclined to complain to the consumer protection folks in the state.
 
If I were in the neighborhood I'd try sighting in a pellet gun on those cameras...
 
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