Pros and Cons of living full-time in a Motorhome?

I remember researching the Wynns when my wife and I were discussing living in an RV before she came down with cancer. Her being sick kind of put the kibosh to our dreams. Both my businesses are pretty much self supporting, so that leaves me ample time to play and look for new ventures. One business I'll be starting while on the road is traveling from place to place YouTubing the YouTubers. It will be a mixture of Mike Rowe's (Dirty Jobs), Anthony Bourdain's (Parts Unknown) and Guy Fieri's (Guy's Family Road Trip or DDD). The content I will be providing might possibly even be reality TV worthy, but definitely will be YouTube worthy and should develop in to a good subscriber base and following much like the Wynns have built.


I'll have my guns along with remote alarms/sensors with video streaming capabilities should an undesirable breach my perimeter. Gotta love modern day technology! :thumbsup:
check out the Wynn's video last week. they showed all the cameras they use in producing their videos. May help you get started.
 
last I checked campgrounds ain't all that cheap to check into.....$50-60/night to live in your rig. It's kinda fun at first....till you get stir crazed by the small quarters.
From what I have researched, most of your full length big rig pull thrus (with full hook-ups) at a decent RV resort will run about $800 to $1000 per month if you book a full month or longer. It's the daily and weekly rates that kill you. The majority of my stays will be on local farms/ranches helping them out harvesting/planting crops or working cattle. In fact, I have several places lined up already. Ironically most of the farms/ranches I'll be staying at already have RV pads poured and all the electric, water, and sewer hookups in place. My Mom and little brother's place is the same way. When I'm not helping out on the farms/ranches and shooting videos of their operations, I'll be out and about in the local populace and shoot videos of interesting people and what they do.

check out the Wynn's video last week. they showed all the cameras they use in producing their videos. May help you get started.
Yep... already checked them out. I'll have the same or similar type and amount of equipment. The Wynns definitely do awesome work. One thing I'll have that they don't, is a professional editing crew. That's the most time consuming part if you're trying to do everything on your own. All I have to do is shoot the videos, load them up on my servers, and my editors will down load them and do their magic. Most of your large YouTubers have their own production staff. My producer is in CT and is one of the best in the business. We both think alike and he knows exactly what my preferences are.
 
For the money you're spending on one of those, and the crash in resale value you'll experience, you can stay in a lot of hotel rooms in a lot of exotic places for a long time.
 
.....Yes, it's an "all weather" motor coach. The idea is to spend my winters here in the southern states and summers in the northern states.....

Stupid question but if you’re looking to stay warm weather only then why do you need all weather?
 
Are you serious?? You couldn’t pay me enough to pull something like that around on a daily basis.
 
Wife wanted to something similar. I whined that I'm retired, and towing a trailer, 5th wheel, whatever would be work. I don't wanna work no more. I'm winning, for now.
 
For the money you're spending on one of those, and the crash in resale value you'll experience, you can stay in a lot of hotel rooms in a lot of exotic places for a long time.
That's why I'm buying gently used rather than new. The depreciation on new ones are a killer. I've already played the resort/hotel/B&B game. Time to travel on my own terms while carrying my own bed/kitchen/living room/office and garage with me. Can't do that with hotel rooms. Besides, I'll be writing most everything off my taxes as a business expense anyways. Might as well make it all as comfy as possible.

Stupid question but if you’re looking to stay warm weather only then why do you need all weather?

They come from the factory very well insulated (heated floors/tanks/pipes etc.) and are able to handle sub-zero and high heat temps. I don't plan on staying in sub-zero weather, nor the scorching heat of the AZ summers, but it's nice to know the coach will handle it if need be.

Are you serious?? You couldn’t pay me enough to pull something like that around on a daily basis.

It's not like I'm going to be driving it everyday. I'll find a place that I like and may spend a few days, weeks, or even months. Who knows where my adventures will take me?:dunno:
 
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It's not like I'm going to be driving it everyday. I'll find a place that I like and may spend a few days, weeks, or even months. Who knows where my adventures will take me?:dunno:
Fair enough. If it were me, I’d keep the house and get a smaller rig. I’d like to have a place to come home to sometimes, rather than call an RV my sole permanent home. To each his own, I suppose.
 
Wife wanted to something similar. I whined that I'm retired, and towing a trailer, 5th wheel, whatever would be work. I don't wanna work no more. I'm winning, for now.

Oh, you like to think you are winning. That is part of the wife's master plan....:lol:
 
Time to travel on my own terms while carrying my own bed/kitchen/living room/office and garage with me. Can't do that with hotel rooms.

Nothing like having your own bedroom and bathroom everywhere you go...:yesnod::yesnod:
 
Now that I'm single, I have put my house and all contents up for sale. Shortly after everything sells, I'll be purchasing a late model used motorhome with trailer (exactly or very similar to what is pictured) and plan on living in it full-time.

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Just curious if anybody here has ever lived full-time in an RV, and may have some first hand advice to share with me on what the pros and cons are/were in doing so?
 
Camp ground wifi do not allow streaming, because they usually have the cheapest service they can get. and many only allow a small amount of data to you for free
huge areas have no cell or WiFi, the only way we could get any service in Canada was our phone.

Remember we do this already. BTDT kinda thing.:)
 
Fair enough. If it were me, I’d keep the house and get a smaller rig. I’d like to have a place to come home to sometimes, rather than call an RV my sole permanent home. To each his own, I suppose.
My wife was the same way. She had to have her roots. I've been in AZ for 30 years, and in the same home for 25 of those years. It's time to move on to the next adventure. I'll probably end up getting a condo in our local retirement community later on down the road, but for now I'm going to give this lifestyle a try for a few years while I'm still young and can enjoy it.

Camp ground wifi do not allow streaming, because they usually have the cheapest service they can get. and many only allow a small amount of data to you for free huge areas have no cell or WiFi, the only way we could get any service in Canada was our phone.
I'll have satellite w/cell backup.
 
Just my two cents, the type of rig you showed, it isn't really meant for full timing. After doing 2-3 months in our 40 footer I'd not try full timing in any thing less than a Newmar Essex

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-Newmar-ESSEX-4503-5000398786

Newmar corp is the only coach builder that made it thru the 07 down turn with out going thru receivership. They do not speculate and build coaches hoping they can sell them, you put up 50% of the purchase price and the other 50% when the coach is built. That is why I can buy any part or my 18 year old coach.
Newmar is with out a doubt the highest quality coach builder in the US, and they support their products.
The one I linked is set up and ready to go, at a tenth of a new one. It doesn't have the DEF requirements. which all of the new DEF engined coaches do. Stay away from any coach that requires DEF. They are having problems with the DEF emissions system and they are very expensive to repair.
any camp ground that will take you will require you to disconnect that trailer, most state and national camp grounds are limited to 35 feet. some have over flow sites but few of them have full hook ups.
we average $35-$40 per night at camp grounds that provide full hook ups. Higest we have paid was 65 at White horse during tourist season. cheapest of course was a free over night at Jade City on the Cassiar Highway BC.
 
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My wife was the same way. She had to have her roots. I've been in AZ for 30 years, and in the same home for 25 of those years. It's time to move on to the next adventure. I'll probably end up getting a condo in our local retirement community later on down the road, but for now I'm going to give this lifestyle a try for a few years while I'm still young and can enjoy it.


I'll have satellite w/cell backup.
Good for you. I hope it works great, see my post 59.
 
My wife was the same way. She had to have her roots. I've been in AZ for 30 years, and in the same home for 25 of those years. It's time to move on to the next adventure. I'll probably end up getting a condo in our local retirement community later on down the road, but for now I'm going to give this lifestyle a try for a few years while I'm still young and can enjoy it.
I wish you luck. Best wishes to you!
 
Just my two cents, the type of rig you showed, it isn't really meant for full timing. After doing 2-3 months in our 40 footer I'd not try full timing in any thing less than a Newmar Essex
Okay Tom... tell me why it's not a full-time rig? I want your opinion. I don't want a rear engine bus with zero frontal crash protection. I want a semi chassis with the engine out front. Besides it's way easier to work on and service than a bus is. Way easier!

I wish you luck. Best wishes to you!
Thanks dude... :thumbsup:
 
Okay Tom... tell me why it's not a full-time rig? I want your opinion. I don't want a rear engine bus with zero frontal crash protection. I want a semi chassis with the engine out front. Besides it's way easier to work on and service than a bus is. Way easier!
This is true, but it is seldom you ever will need to do heavy maintenance on the big diesel, except the DEF engines. And when required to do any thing big to the diesel, you'll not have the equipment to do it. So it's in the shop, and they worry about it.
The Newmar I linked the whole front is roll cage construction. you bust a corner, like we did 6 bolts and the whole front cap comes off, you order another one from Newmar.
We busted a bear's ass on the trip to Alaska this spring. nothing but fiberglass was hurt. 1400.00 repaired it.
try buying a radiator for that truck for 1400 bucks.
You bust the front of that truck you pay more for the steering gear repair than the whole front cap on my coach.
Beside the best protection is a good insurance company, and a careful driver. :)
We've had our coach for a little over 9 years, and have placed 55k miles on, we have yet to replace a major appliance, because it failed. we have up graded the inverter / charger for a true signwave one.

we carry a micro wave, washer dryer combo, hot water heater, 3500 watt inverter, 2 TVs a 7500 Watt Onan gen-set.

OBTW... I really do want your dream to come true. But be realistic.
This is the proper forum to ask these questions
https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings/forum/92.cfm
 
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try buying a radiator for that truck for 400 bucks.

That's pretty scary if that's all your radiator is worth. Thus another reason to go with a semi chassis. Huge "expensive" radiator out front equals no overheating. A couple of my friends have the big buses and pull trailers and are always overheating due to the vacuum effect from the trailer. And that's even with the side mounted radiators. The airflow is still disrupted. Plus you get all the road grime and dust to boot from whatever the coach kicks up that goes right into radiators and the airbox. No thank you... I'll take my big expensive radiator and airbox out front where the air is clean and I'm easily able to develop my rated HP.

You bust the front of that truck you pay more for the steering gear repair than the whole front cap on my coach.

If I bust the front end of my truck, I probably have way bigger problems than worrying about replacing a cap. Besides that... if you bust the front of your coach with the same crash that I would bust the front end of my truck, I'll probably still be able to write about it. You... probably not so much.

We've had our coach for a little over 9 years, and have placed 55k miles on, we have yet to replace a major appliance. we carry a micro wave, washer dryer combo, hot water heater, 3500 watt inverter, 2 TVs a 7500 Watt Onan gen-set.

No doubt a well built coach can last a very long time. Which is another reason why I like the semi chassis. Those are 1,000,000 mile trucks they mount those bodies on. It's like putting a flea on an elephant's back. I'll never put that many miles on a coach in my lifetime. As for the rest of the amenities. I would have virtually the same (if not more) than the highest end motor coaches. I just won't have (nor do I want) all the glitzy glass, crystal, marble, mood lighting, chandeliers etc. etc. they put in the high dollar coaches these days. I'm a simple guy. I don't need all that glitz and glamour. Give me high end appliances, tiled floors/shower, hardwood trim, decent carpet, and I'm a happy camper.

It's way too small. cabin fever will set in way too quick.

Actually it’s not that much smaller than the full size buses. We’re both still the same length, same slide-outs, but the bus has a little more livable space due to it’s rear engine configuration. Regardless, there’s still plenty of room in it for me and that’s all that counts. Besides, it’s not like I’m going to be living in it 24 hours a day. The majority of the time I’ll be out and about exploring the area on one of my motorcycles or UTV. Or else I’ll be out working shooting videos, driving a tractor, combine, semi, or working cattle. When I am “home”, more than likely I will be outside in my lanai editing video, BBQ’ing, or drinking beer and socializing with the neighbors. The coach is basically just to sleep in, take a shower in, do a little cooking in, and maybe to do a little computer work in for the most part. The rest of the time I’ll be outdoors.
 
My Radiator is in the back on the side, I tow, 10k trailer, and never overheat. older rear radiators do get clogged and over heat, don't buy one. :)
My Newmar is built on a Fire truck chassis, and warranted to a million miles. even as second owner.
You bust the front of your truck you'll likely not drive it away. My Newmar has nothing up front to prevent me from cutting away the fiberglass and driving it home. plus it has a 1000# gen-set, up front.

To each their own, that is why they make so many versions of an RV.
My best advice ? don't buy new, pick the floor plan over type of RV. because the floor plan is what you will live in.

that Essex I linked was a $1,000,000 coach when new, it still looks and will operate as well as a new one at $160k, the Class C your looking at will book new at around 750k, then the trailer ? who knows.
the Newmar support is a constant, they still support the first 5th wheel they built, and every RV since. how about your coach builder? Are you certain they will be here 10-12 years from now to support your RV when it will really need it?

Every one dreams of being outdoors most of the time, they fail to remember how many days it rains, or how many bugs there are most places.
 
Is that Smokey and the Bandits truck, or the truck from the movie with Gary Sinese about the Santa Claus robbers who hit the casino?
It's the semi from the 80s Knight Rider series with David Hasselhoff.
 
Newmar corp is the only coach builder that made it thru the 07 down turn with out going thru receivership.

Counter example: Forest River.
http://www.forestriverinc.com/Motorhomes.aspx

As in 2007, it is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, which is among the most bankruptcy-proof companies in America. Didn’t come anywhere close to receivership.
 
My Radiator is in the back on the side, I tow, 10k trailer, and never overheat. older rear radiators do get clogged and over heat, don't buy one. :)
I don't even want side mounts. The full airflow just isn't there. Especially if your engine starts to vent oil. All that mist gets mixed with all the dust and road grime and coats the whole interior engine compartment including the radiators. Then there goes your heat conductive abilities. I don't ever think I've seen a clean one yet unless it was driven right off the showroom floor.

My Newmar is built on a Fire truck chassis, and warranted to a million miles. even as second owner.
Newmars are very well built coaches. I've looked at them. They're very nice. I just don't want a pusher when I can get the same or better build quality with a regular semi chassis.

You bust the front of your truck you'll likely not drive it away. My Newmar has nothing up front to prevent me from cutting away the fiberglass and driving it home. plus it has a 1000# gen-set, up front.
That's what I've always hated about a front slide out genny. You accidentally hit something enough to center crush your front bumper, you just bought yourself a $20k genset. I like them on the sides with a slide-out.

My best advice ? don't buy new, pick the floor plan over type of RV. because the floor plan is what you will live in.
I'll never by a coach new. The depreciation is a killer. I can get a late model Renegade or Haulmark loaded with stacker trailer for $300k or less and not lose that much more in depreciation over the years.

that Essex I linked was a $1,000,000 coach when new, it still looks and will operate as well as a new one at $160k, the Class C your looking at will book new at around 750k, then the trailer ? who knows.
That's why I will never buy new. All those coaches (Marathons, Prevosts, Newmars, MCI's) are $1,000,000+ coaches when new. 10 years later they're only worth $200k or less. What's wrong with that picture? You're pretty close on the Renegade or Haulmark new prices. They're not as much as the ultra luxury coaches. They still lose their value though just like anything else.

the Newmar support is a constant, they still support the first 5th wheel they built, and every RV since. how about your coach builder? Are you certain they will be here 10-12 years from now to support your RV when it will really need it?
Yep... Newmar is one of the originals. No doubt a very good coach builder. Many of the company man and geologist trailers we used in the oil patch years ago were Newmars that were special built to withstand the blizzards and cold temps of Wyoming, Montana, and South Dakota. Renegade and HaulMark have been in the business for many years also. They started out building custom toter homes and trailers for all the Nascar racers and horse people. They're the only two builders I would buy a semi chassis coach from. Many others have came and went over the years, just like many of the RV companies.

Every one dreams of being outdoors most of the time, they fail to remember how many days it rains, or how many bugs there are most places.
Thus the screened in lanai. I can still be outdoors without all the bugs or even when it's raining.
 
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Yep... Newmar is one of the originals. No doubt a very good coach builder. Many of the company man and geologist trailers we used in the oil patch years ago were Newmars that were special built to withstand the blizzards and cold temps of Wyoming, Montana, and South Dakota. Renegade and HaulMark have been in the business for many years also. They started out building custom toter homes and trailers for all the Nascar racers and horse people. They're the only two builders I would buy a semi chassis coach from. Many others have came and went over the years, just like many of the RV companies.
You seem well convinced, But after 50 years of camping in every thing from a motorcycle and back pack. thru truck campers, to tag alongs trailers, Class C, and a Class A. You'll probably see things a bit different. as I do.
Good luck with your dream, have fun.

But just know, the coach you are looking at is not built on a long haul over the road truck/tractor chassis, it is a 10 ton delivery truck chassis, by Freightliner. all class "A" are air-ride these Freightlinner trucks are springs. and they ride like a overloaded truck. BTDT. test ride. no comparison to air. our coach is a 40' 6 bag air ride, you see and hear the freeway expansion joints but never feel them.

Back in 2009 we looked at 3 of these prior to buying our coach from a private party, simply because it was a better coach for our purposes, at much less money.

Before you buy anything, test drive it. compare it to a Class A. you will see the difference.
 
Wife wanted to something similar. I whined that I'm retired, and towing a trailer, 5th wheel, whatever would be work. I don't wanna work no more. I'm winning, for now.

Tell her to call us (both of us) if she wants to hear some good and bad about 5th wheels.

As for you, towing a fiver is a lot nicer than a bumper tow. Night and day. As is hitching. It will spoil me forever. And I have towed a lot of trailers. We went on our honeymoon centuries ago in a big pop-up Coleman. And been towing stuff my whole life. But no fivers until the one we just sold.

It isn’t work at all, comparatively. I really enjoyed towing that thing. Here’s something the size of a small house behind me and it just sat there and never did anything bad. Ever. Even during the worst panic stop I’ve ever had to do with a trailer, it just stayed back there.

We ultimately sold ours because the original life plan and jobs had changed DRAMATICALLY from when we bought it until this year. (Originally when we bought it, I was 80-90% work from home and as long as I had internet I never went anywhere near the office if I could avoid it. She had multiple days off per week and they could be moved around, so we were going to wander a bit, and I would work in the camper by day, and we’d enjoy a campfire by night, and we only had the one big (really high dog.

ALL of that changed in two years. LOL. So... the fiver sat too much. We loved it for Oshkosh and the occasional trip, but frankly we already live in the country so we didn’t need to get out of the rat race or anything. Ha.

We got a bit lucky on the consignment and didn’t lose much from brand new to selling it four years later but we were about to drop the price again when it sold.

Talk about depreciation. And she HAD to have a new one once she saw one... but we managed to escape without too much pain in that regard.

Well in RV depreciation levels of pain, that is. If I counted up the hotel rooms that money would have paid for... we lost. But we did enjoy it while we had it. Kinda. There were some downsides.

So we did okay. Bought a slightly unpopular model (laid out for empty nesters not big families, tons of space but really only comfortable for two over long periods and two more if they wanted to crash in the living room every night. And paid less for it because we got it after the local RV show in the dead of winter, so they really want last year’s models gone. Then sold it for a higher than expected price at the end.

Anyway... seriously... if she wants some good and bad stories give us a ring when we’re both home. A couple of the repairs were awful. Really awful for something “new with warranty”. Breaking the truck wasn’t fun but a fiver was purposefully chosen in that regard. I won’t put a motor on the part I have to live in, because guess where you’re living when the motorized part goes to the shop? In the shop. Literally. No thanks. Disconnect one from the other and tow one to the shop and one to the nearest RV Park which is exactly what we did. We watched movies on DVD for three days but didn’t have to live at the Dodge dealership. Ha. Had A/C. Microwave. Oven. But fridge with adult beverages. All the comforts of home.

I do know this. I wouldn’t have bought it if I didn’t have land to park it on when not in use. Paying to park them in storage lots around here is CRAZY. Lots of $$$. Wedged in like sardines.
 
I don't even want side mounts. The full airflow just isn't there.
why wouldn't it be?
the rear mounted radiators have a problem with road grime collecting in the core, side radiators have no such problem.
The side radiators get washed at the same time the
coach does, and they have a giant hydraulically driven fan. these have never given a problem.
Even your front radiators must be cleaned, so at best it's a toss up for maintenance.
I run the North cascade highway (US 20) in both directions towing, the last climb west to east, into Rainey pass is a 4% grade for 7 miles, I crest the top at 60 MPH and my fan never comes on.
coming east to west the big climb is the last 10 miles of 4--6% grade, from Mazama to the top, I can't run full throttle because of road , but I can top the pass at 50MPH and the fan never comes on.
So the side radiator is a non issue, but is well out site during any front accident.
 
But just know, the coach you are looking at is not built on a long haul over the road truck/tractor chassis, it is a 10 ton delivery truck chassis, by Freightliner. all class "A" are air-ride these Freightlinner trucks are springs. and they ride like a overloaded truck. BTDT. test ride. no comparison to air. our coach is a 40' 6 bag air ride, you see and hear the freeway expansion joints but never feel them.
No, no, no Tom... the coach I'm buying is built on a full blown air ride luxury semi chassis just as any long haul trucker would buy for their own personal road truck. They're built on Volvo VNL's or on the Freightliner Cascadia series. You're talking about the medium duty trucks or what is considered a "SuperC" motorhome. The coach I'm looking to purchase is considered a full blown Class A coach that is on par with the Newells, Newmars, Prevosts, Marathons or MCI conversions. Believe me, I've looked at them all with my wife a few years back and just recently have changed my tune to wanting a luxury coach mounted on a luxury semi truck chassis just because the build quality has come such a long ways. 10 years ago, I would have bought a NewMar or other luxury diesel pusher coach in a heart beat. Nowadays I want the heft of a full blown semi truck chassis, not only for the safety, reliability, and ease of maintenance, but for the pure weight carrying/towing capabilities. I'd rather have too much truck pulling or carrying too little weight, than not enough truck pulling or carrying too much weight. Like I said... the class 8 semi truck based coach that I'll be buying (load and trailer pulling capability) is like hauling a flea on a elephants back.
 
The last 5 miles of the north cascades highway east to west
No, no, no Tom... the coach I'm buying is built on a full blown air ride luxury semi chassis just as any long haul trucker would buy for their own personal road truck. They're built on Volvo VNL's or on the Freightliner Cascadia series. You're talking about the medium duty trucks or what is considered a "SuperC" motorhome. The coach I'm looking to purchase is considered a full blown Class A coach that is on par with the Newells, Newmars, Prevosts, Marathons or MCI conversions. Believe me, I've looked at them all with my wife a few years back and just recently have changed my tune to wanting a luxury coach mounted on a luxury semi truck chassis just because the build quality has come such a long ways. 10 years ago, I would have bought a NewMar or other luxury diesel pusher coach in a heart beat. Nowadays I want the heft of a full blown semi truck chassis, not only for the safety, reliability, and ease of maintenance, but for the pure weight carrying/towing capabilities. I'd rather have too much truck pulling or carrying too little weight, than not enough truck pulling or carrying too much weight. Like I said... the class 8 semi truck based coach that I'll be buying (load and trailer pulling capability) is like hauling a flea on a elephants back.
Your looking at 750.K new, and 500k used.
when you can beat the buy with several class "A" which will always give a better ride.
These truck chassis are not as good as a Spartan raised rail chassis. which are built as coaches, rather than trucks.
They will always give you a better ride.
 

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No, no, no Tom... the coach I'm buying is built on a full blown air ride luxury semi chassis just as any long haul trucker would buy for their own personal road truck. .
The one you pictured is on a freightlinner 10 ton truck.
The one you want is a 750K special built coach.
you can beat that price anyday with a class A.
 
why wouldn't it be?
Think about it. Are you going to get cleaner and more non-disrupted airflow from the front or from the sides of a vehicle?
our looking at 750.K new, and 500k used
You'd be surprised. Remember that million dollar coach that's now worth $200k. Same thing happens with these coaches just as with the regular luxury coaches. What is $750k new is now $300k or less now.

These truck chassis are not as good as a Spartan raised rail chassis. which are built as coaches, rather than trucks.
They're actually better in my opinion, thus the higher load and towing capabilities over a regular luxury coach.
 
Don’t know much about trying to live in one full time.

Go used...unless you like to burn cash. As an example - I bought a 2010 32ft travel trailer with two slide outs a few weeks ago. It was originally purchased for $39,000. I paid $7500. Some seriously amazing depreciation.

Granted I got a deal and the original buyer got ripped off.
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Oshkosh will be very comfortable for me in ‘18.
 
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Are you serious?? You couldn’t pay me enough to pull something like that around on a daily basis.
Wife wanted to something similar. I whined that I'm retired, and towing a trailer, 5th wheel, whatever would be work. I don't wanna work no more. I'm winning, for now.

^This. Fortunately my wife has even less interest in an RV than I do. I'd rather have the money in a nice plane and fly places in the US and fly commercial internationally. Then spend money to stay in nice places while we are there.

Each to his/her own though.
 
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