Plane crashes into homes in San Diego, Ca

I would edit the title if I could, I don't consider a Cessna 340 a small plane, but maybe some in the media do.
A note about San Diego today, the winds are unusually strong and gusty.
 
Bender Aviation said:
I would edit the title if I could, I don't consider a Cessna 340 a small plane, but maybe some in the media do.
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You can, it’s at the top under ‘Thread Tools’.

The media considers most anything that’s not a standard sized airliner to be a ‘small plane’.
 
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AnonymousMonday, October 11, 2021 at 5:05:00 PM EDT
Two homes involved in fire. Elderly couple minor injuries, taken to UC San Diego Medical Center. Possibly aided by a good Samaritan, as the airplane (attempting to land?) hit a car, a boat and a "UPS' truck, according to the son of the folks who lost their home talking to news reporter at scene. No info on the "UPS" driver or the aircraft occupant(s). Gillespie Field is nearby.
 
RyanB said:
You can, it’s at the top under ‘Thread Tools’.

The media considers most anything that’s not a standard sized airliner to be a ‘small plane’.
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Thanks

flyingron said:
Here's a very confused Cessna 22G trying to fly the ILS, get's approach clearance cancelled, and low alt alert.

https://archive.liveatc.net/ksan/KSAN-SOCAL-App-Dep-East-Oct-11-2021-1900Z.mp3
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Listening Now. A few other things to note about San Diego weather today, There are AirMets for Turbulence, Mountain Observation, and high surface winds. Most fields in the area are MVFR.
 
Bender Aviation said:
I would edit the title if I could, I don't consider a Cessna 340 a small plane, but maybe some in the media do.
A note about San Diego today, the winds are unusually strong and gusty.
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The media and general population would call a PC-12 a small plane. Come on, it only has one engine.
 
22G Low altitude alert climb immediately. climb the airplane. Maintain 5000. Expedite climb. Climb the airplane please.

22G just level... out the heading and climb the airplane to 5000 when you can, sir.

22G traffic alert ten o'clock and five miles 1500... You appear to be descending again, sir. WHat's your altitude?

[Nothing more heard from 22G].

You can hear it in his voice that the socal controller knows he's crashed at this point as he sorts some stuff out with others and a few seconds later a new voice takes over.
 
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Plane registered to SAMARTH AVIATION LLC in Yuma, AZ (which seems to be the home base). That seems to be controlled by a Sugata Das, MD of Yuma. Cardiology specialist.



Medical Information:
Medical Class: First Medical Date: 8/2020
MUST HAVE AVAILABLE GLASSES FOR NEAR VISION.
BasicMed Course Date: 6/19/2017 BasicMed CMEC Date: 6/19/2017
Certificates
COMMERCIAL PILOT
Certificates Description

Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Date of Issue: 10/24/2014

Ratings:
COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
PRIVATE PRIVILEGES
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND


Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.

Found this bio:

In 2010, a fortuitous incident sparked an interest in general aviation. As an instrument rated pilot with a multiengine rating, Sugata Das is owner pilot of a twin Cessna 340 as well as an RV9A, which he flies between Yuma and San Diego, his family home. Sugata and Sujata are doting parents to boys, ages 12 and eight.
 
Sounds like this pilot was having some type of issue. He acknowledged the instruction to climb at least twice, but kept descending. He did not give any sign of equipment problems. Sad story, RIP, and RIP to the innocent victims.
 
PaulS said:
Sounds like this pilot was having some type of issue. He acknowledged the instruction to climb at least twice, but kept descending. He did not give any sign of equipment problems. Sad story, RIP, and RIP to the innocent victims.
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Partial panel? AI failed undetected?
 
FlyingElvii said:
N7022G, a Cessna 310. Was out of Yuma heading for MGY, the tape sounds like he got lost and confused in the cloud.
Weather was around 2700 broken at the time, gusting to 17.

Audio, it starts around the 9 minute mark.
https://archive.liveatc.net/ksan/KS...xgkikxcAocSZe0ahZqbZeaXvxxx7_EqR3TmgosgQJrLu4
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From the audio recording:

Note - I removed some of the irrelevant

12:47 - ATC - "22G Turn right heading 090 climb immediately, maintain 4000"

12:52 - 22G - "four thousand climb immediately 22G"

12:56 - ATC "ok, it looks like your descending sir, I need to make sure you are climbing not descending"

13:00 - 22G - unintelligible (two maybe three words)

12:27 - ATC - "22G say altitude"

13:30 - 22G - "twenty five hundred - 22G"

13:31 - ATC - "22G Low altitude alert CLIMB IMMEDIATELY CLIMB THE AIRPLANE MAINTAIN FIVE THOUSAND expedite climb, climb the airplane please." (emphasis ATC)

13:57 - ATC - "22G... just level off the plane at, er the heading and climb the airplane up to 5000 when you can sir"

14:17 - ATC (garbled - multiple radio broadcasts) - ...traffic alert 22G 10 o'clock and a half mile one thousand five hundred you appear to be descending again sir are you... say altitude"

14:29 - ATC "(unintelligble)... 7022G So Cal Approach"

14:37 - ATC "the altimeter is currently 2978"

From that transmission until ~16:30 ATC spends quite a bit of time catching up with other traffic

~16:40 a new controller comes on frequency
 
flyingron said:
He's called as traffic at 14:41 here: https://archive.liveatc.net/ksee/KSEE-Oct-11-2021-1900Z.mp3
and the pilot says "He crashed into the houses."
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This is tower frequency (note - I'm not sure if these time stamps correlate with the approach time stamps)

14:24 - Tower - "Copter 129 traffic ahead 1/2 a mile uh Eastbound a twin Cessna one thousand one hundred"

14:35 - "uh tower the aircraft just crashed about a 1/2 mile in front of us into the houses"
 
‘2700 Bkn’ at the time? Seems about right, that weather in the doorbell camera didn’t seem all that bad. Seems like one could of righted the craft, under normal conditions & control.
 
sourdough44 said:
‘2700 Bkn’ at the time? Seems about right, that weather in the doorbell camera didn’t seem all that bad. Seems like one could of righted the craft, under normal conditions & control.
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That occurred to me as well. That said, between the “Accident Case Study” videos and various Wx-related accidents I’ve read about, it seems like once spatial-D takes hold, even a return to clear sky doesn’t immediately improve the situation. It can take time. And if you’re descending, particularly in an unusual attitude, at low altitude, time is something you don’t necessarily have.
 
News is reporting the UPS driver was killed.
 
I just landed at Gillespie (KSEE) about an hour prior. The cloud level was rolling at broken at 2400’ at that time. Winds were variable at 9 and I landed 27R then they shifted to 17 just after I landed.
 
I need to listen to the audio again, I thought Socal had him headed to MYF, but the SEE tower called him as traffic for the helo on final for 17?

Edit. Pic attached. I need to go listen to that SEE tower again.

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SOCAL never handed him off. He'd had asked for the tower frequency, but ATC told him to stay with him early on. He was cleared for the approach and then the poopshow started.
 
flyingron said:
SOCAL never handed him off. He'd had asked for the tower frequency, but ATC told him to stay with him early on. He was cleared for the approach and then the poopshow started.
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That's why I was wondering why SEE would call 22g as traffic. SEE tells the helo to follow (a different) Cessna right base to final. I would have expected SEE to make a few calls to 22G asking intentions since 22g had entered SEE airspace.

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azpilot said:
The media and general population would call a PC-12 a small plane. Come on, it only has one engine.
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Anything under the size of an Airbus or 737 are a small plane.. people balk at the CRJ, Dash 8, etc
 
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