Jake Simpson
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Good evening everyone,
I have been wanting to ask this question but a lot of people I ask don't have a solid answer and answers tend to vary. The question lies in how to start different sized piston engines and fuel injected vs carbureted. I have flown in many single engine piston aircraft including 152s, 172s, 182s, cherokees, warriors, archers, etc. Over half of my time was spent in aircraft with IO360s, so the start procedure was always mixture idle, mags start, wait for it to turn over and simultaneously release the starter and go full rich. This was in the brand new Piper Archer TX and C172S/R models. Other aircraft I've flown such as the smaller displacement carbureted warriors/cherokees were all started with mixture already full rich, so all you had to do was turn the key. I am wondering if this procedure is different for the method in which fuel gets to the engine (injected vs. carb) or displacement of the engine itself? I was confused because I logged around 10 hours in a 182 with an IO520 stc and we started that with mixture full rich as well. Still injected and large displacement. In my 200hrs of flying I've just consulted the POH and checklist for starting procedures but have never asked: Why do we start the engine this way? Can you start an IO360 C172 or Archer with full rich mixture? Is that frowned upon? Why do the methods differ? Would you rather start a cold engine with the mixture full rich or idle cutoff, what about a warm engine? Does it differ by brand? The IO360s in the archers and 172s were Lycoming whereas the IO520 in the 182 was continental.
The reason I ask is because I want a better understanding of why these procedures differ so I can feel more comfortable in various types of small single engine aircraft. This doesn't seem to be a common topic taught at most flight schools, but I'm sure it is for A&Ps etc. I'm also looking to purchase an aircraft of my own so this would help me understand the engine my plane will have.
Thanks so much!
I have been wanting to ask this question but a lot of people I ask don't have a solid answer and answers tend to vary. The question lies in how to start different sized piston engines and fuel injected vs carbureted. I have flown in many single engine piston aircraft including 152s, 172s, 182s, cherokees, warriors, archers, etc. Over half of my time was spent in aircraft with IO360s, so the start procedure was always mixture idle, mags start, wait for it to turn over and simultaneously release the starter and go full rich. This was in the brand new Piper Archer TX and C172S/R models. Other aircraft I've flown such as the smaller displacement carbureted warriors/cherokees were all started with mixture already full rich, so all you had to do was turn the key. I am wondering if this procedure is different for the method in which fuel gets to the engine (injected vs. carb) or displacement of the engine itself? I was confused because I logged around 10 hours in a 182 with an IO520 stc and we started that with mixture full rich as well. Still injected and large displacement. In my 200hrs of flying I've just consulted the POH and checklist for starting procedures but have never asked: Why do we start the engine this way? Can you start an IO360 C172 or Archer with full rich mixture? Is that frowned upon? Why do the methods differ? Would you rather start a cold engine with the mixture full rich or idle cutoff, what about a warm engine? Does it differ by brand? The IO360s in the archers and 172s were Lycoming whereas the IO520 in the 182 was continental.
The reason I ask is because I want a better understanding of why these procedures differ so I can feel more comfortable in various types of small single engine aircraft. This doesn't seem to be a common topic taught at most flight schools, but I'm sure it is for A&Ps etc. I'm also looking to purchase an aircraft of my own so this would help me understand the engine my plane will have.
Thanks so much!