Pilot School or College?

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I'm 23 years old and currently in college. Recently I have been debating on going to pilot school, but I hear the cost of tuition is very expensive and some if not most programs cost more than college tuition. Should I stay in college and finish my computer science and electrical engineering degrees or put college off for right now to go to pilot school?
 
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Finish your degree! Get a good job and get your PPL and endorsements in the evening and on weekends, through your local FBO or individual CFI. The cost will be much, much lower; you will likely experience more varied weather; and you will be earning good money.

You can always change careers to become a pilot if you want to. Should you not like the lifestyle, you can move right back into a good engineering position and fly when and as you like.

signed, BSME, MSE, PPL / IA, Airplane Owner, Pilot for Fun and Travel
 
I'm actually a computer science and electrical engineering major specializing in aerospace engineering if that makes sense. Can I even still be a pilot with those degrees?
 
As said, get your degree first! Most Anybody can be a pilot. One thing, when you decide to begin flying, make sure you know you can get a medical. Do some research here first, there is a sticky in one of the forums.
 
You can be a pilot with a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving!

Learning to fly doesn't necessitate a "pilot school", only a plane on a ramp somewhere and an instructor willing to teach you.

And of course money. :) Which is why having a STEM degree (and a "day job" while you train), will be an advantage.
 
I'm actually a computer science and electrical engineering major specializing in aerospace engineering if that makes sense. Can I even still be a pilot with those degrees?
The majors don't care what your degree is in as long as you have one. I'm a senior in college and working on my PPL... literally only in college to satisfy that part of the job requirement
 
There are former doctors and lawyers who are flying for the airlines now.

You can be any kind of pilot you want to be with whatever degree you have.

The benefit is that if you get tired of piloting or your health ends your career or you are laid off, you have a degree that you can fall back on.
 
Like everyone else has said, finish up the degree. I'll also add that you should avoid getting your pilot training through a university. It's the most expensive way to go. Instead, head down to your local small airport and see if there is a flight school or flying club there and see if their rate are more affordable to you.

You don't have to slam all the money down at once. You can pay as you go. If you give your location here, I'm sure you'll get some recommendations on where to go.


I'm actually a computer science and electrical engineering major specializing in aerospace engineering if that makes sense. Can I even still be a pilot with those degrees?

Former IT guy here. Started flying when I was in high school. Had no desire to do it as a career, it was just a fun thing. Got burned out on the IT world and now I'm flying as a career. Go figure.
 
I'm 23 years old and currently in college. Recently I have been debating on going to pilot school, but I hear the cost of tuition is very expensive and some if not most programs cost more than college tuition. Should I stay in college and finish my computer science and electrical engineering degrees or put college off for right now to go to pilot school?
If you were dual majoring in philosophy and sociology I'd say go to pilot school. With your majors, finish your degrees.
 
I'm actually a computer science and electrical engineering major specializing in aerospace engineering if that makes sense. Can I even still be a pilot with those degrees?
Yes. If you wanted to fly for the Airlines, you generally need a degree. It doesn't matter what it's in.
 
Finish your degree, get a job that pays about 5 times what an FO makes in the regionals (which is what you're most likely to be after all that expensive flight training). Then buy yourself an airplane and fly on your earned dime as much and as fast as you can. You might find that you like flying on your own steam better than flying where the Man tells you.
 
I'm 23 years old and currently in college. Recently I have been debating on going to pilot school, but I hear the cost of tuition is very expensive and some if not most programs cost more than college tuition. Should I stay in college and finish my computer science and electrical engineering degrees or put college off for right now to go to pilot school?
I'm 23 and graduated with a Mechanical Engineering degree. The job pays well and through internships and co-ops I bought my own plane I get to fly when I want where I want.

You can absolutely still be a pilot with those degrees and they probably set you up better than any other degree would. It's a great backup that is high-paying and very rewarding.
 
Finish your degree. As has been alluded to above, your one failed medical away from the end of your flying career. It's nice to have a decent fallback.
 
Finish your degree. As other have said, you need a backup plan should your health not remain at flying quality. While not as big a deal as it once was, a lot of airlines still like pilots with 4 year degrees.
 
Just for the sake of bulletizing what's been said above:
- finish college... You'll crush the job market with those majors
- small school, part 61, or a smaller 141 program which may save some time
- get your PPL and buy or join a club for the rest - if you can get a TAA (glass panel), then you won't need to rent all of the way through CFI

I'd argue that having a reasonable fallback will be better for your aviation career - you can take a little more risk to make big moves. Just a thought.
 
I'm 23 and graduated with a Mechanical Engineering degree. The job pays well and through internships and co-ops I bought my own plane I get to fly when I want where I want.

You can absolutely still be a pilot with those degrees and they probably set you up better than any other degree would. It's a great backup that is high-paying and very rewarding.


You're 23? I don't know why but I pictured you as late 50s early 60s. You joined this forum when you were 13?
 
You're 23? I don't know why but I pictured you as late 50s early 60s. You joined this forum when you were 13?
Yep! I must curmudgeon beyond my years. If you go back in time on my posts you can see the silly things a 13 year old would post :eek:

It's like a time capsule from hell.
 
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Finish your degree! Get a good job and get your PPL and endorsements in the evening and on weekends, through your local FBO or individual CFI. The cost will be much, much lower; you will likely experience more varied weather; and you will be earning good money.

You can always change careers to become a pilot if you want to. Should you not like the lifestyle, you can move right back into a good engineering position and fly when and as you like.

signed, BSME, MSE, PPL / IA, Airplane Owner, Pilot for Fun and Travel

Bolded and underlined statement - currently my life plan :)
 
College is for chumps.


Just kidding. Yea best bet is to finish your degree then decide where you want to go from there. I'm 24 with a mechanical engineering degree. Maybe get your degree and join the AF? All my friends in AF ROTC are living the dream, flying planes, dropping candy to the kids, living the high life. Seems like a nice gig. Have no idea what I want to do with my life, just know that I don't want to sit in a cubicle the rest of my life. I think I'd enjoy flying so I am pursuing that as of now.
 
Just kidding. Yea best bet is to finish your degree then decide where you want to go from there. I'm 24 with a mechanical engineering degree. Maybe get your degree and join the AF? All my friends in AF ROTC are living the dream, flying planes, dropping candy to the kids, living the high life. Seems like a nice gig. Have no idea what I want to do with my life, just know that I don't want to sit in a cubicle the rest of my life. I think I'd enjoy flying so I am pursuing that as of now.
You should really explore other facets of mechanical engineering. While I certainly am not dissuading you from flying, and I think I might even try being a pro pilot out, there are some REALLY fun jobs in mech that don't just involve sitting in a cube all day.
 
You should really explore other facets of mechanical engineering. While I certainly am not dissuading you from flying, and I think I might even try being a pro pilot out, there are some REALLY fun jobs in mech that don't just involve sitting in a cube all day.

I understand where your coming from. The reality is I've put a lot of thought into all this (more so than what I display here on the forum). I guess it's sacrilegious to think someone who went to engineering school could possibly want to do something other than engineering (not directing this towards you, just saying this is a common theme among a lot of people I talk to). "Why don't you try a smaller company" "Why not try a different position?". They aren't unreasonable questions. My current position allows me to interface with all sorts of engineering disciplines - mechanical, systems, packaging, quality, manufacturing, etc. I've seen and worked closely with a lot of other disciplines to have a fairly good idea of what their average day looks like. My current job is 10 minutes from the airport, which allows me to do flight training after work. Most other positions are in downtown Phoenix, Tempe, or Chandler, which would make flight training very difficult (fighting rush hour traffic and far away from the airport). Are there engineering jobs out there that are "fun"? Absolutely. A lot of the fun ones tend to be the most competitive ones too.

There are pilots out there who left the career and did something else. There are also engineers who left the career to go fly (I have spoken with a handful - all of whom felt almost exactly as I did and really love the flying gig). There is no one size fits all. I have no idea if flying will be a long term career. I may end up getting into it and deciding it isn't for me. At that point I can go back to engineering or do something else. I think I would regret it if I didn't give it a shot though. I've said it many times on here before - if I could have done AF ROTC and flown in the military, I would have done it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, my asthma prevents that (but, yes I can get a 1st Class Medical no problem).

I'm just not satisfied with the "work for the weekends" type of mentality. I want to do something I really enjoy. I realize everything is work at some point, but is that an excuse to just say, "ehh disliking your job is just a part of life". Idk, maybe it is. I see a lot of engineers/people who are just working a job to support their family. They don't have much of a choice. I can't imagine working a job you hate for 45 years. But people do it all the time. Heck a lot of these guys work weekends too. With higher positions comes more responsibility. A lot of engineers I work with know I am working towards my ratings. They think it is awesome and encourage me to continue.

A lot of people advocate for keeping flying as a hobby, which I understand. I do agree, it is the "ideal" situation. Unfortunately, I've realized if I want to fly something other than a Cherokee 140, I'm gonna need to up the income quite a bit. I'm not sure an engineering career is going to get me a Vans, Bonanza, etc. A flying career may not either, but I'm alright with that. At least I'm flying something faster than a Cherokee :p. I'm not saying all this to whine, simply just to express some of my thoughts. I'm sure some on here will feel otherwise.

To the OP - getting your degree is obviously the clear answer here.
 
I'm 23 years old and currently in college. Recently I have been debating on going to pilot school, but I hear the cost of tuition is very expensive and some if not most programs cost more than college tuition. Should I stay in college and finish my computer science and electrical engineering degrees or put college off for right now to go to pilot school?

This is a no-brainer. The median lifetime earnings increment from earning a bachelor's degree (compared to a high school diploma) is approximately $1,000,000. In computer science, that increment is probably much higher. Finish a degree first. Those credentials will open doors not otherwise easily opened, including pursuit of a flying career.

Good luck.
 
You should really explore other facets of mechanical engineering. While I certainly am not dissuading you from flying, and I think I might even try being a pro pilot out, there are some REALLY fun jobs in mech that don't just involve sitting in a cube all day.
My degree was Industrial Engineering. But looking back on what some of my MechE buddies have done and accomplished, I wish I had done that.
 
This is a no-brainer. The median lifetime earnings increment from earning a bachelor's degree (compared to a high school diploma) is approximately $1,000,000. In computer science, that increment is probably much higher. Finish a degree first. Those credentials will open doors not otherwise easily opened, including pursuit of a flying career.

Good luck.

I’d like a reference on that, because when I use it on my teenagers, they’re going to ask me where I heard it (they are tougher than the POA crowd).
 
I need to know where you are in the process, at 23 you should be almost done if you started after high school, which in that case, finish. But if you just finished your first semester and thinking it may not be for you, then maybe you should do some investigating. Need more info.
 
I’d like a reference on that, because when I use it on my teenagers, they’re going to ask me where I heard it (they are tougher than the POA crowd).

Just tell 'em you read it on POA, the gospel of everything and anything.

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Bear in mind that one simple medical issue can end a flying career. Get the degree so you’ll have a backup plan if flying for a living doesn’t work out.
 
Bear in mind that one simple medical issue can end a flying career. Get the degree so you’ll have a backup plan if flying for a living doesn’t work out.

Or at least stop the paychecks for a while. Health is more important that flying.
 
There are pilots out there who left the career and did something else. There are also engineers who left the career to go fly (I have spoken with a handful - all of whom felt almost exactly as I did and really love the flying gig). There is no one size fits all. I have no idea if flying will be a long term career. I may end up getting into it and deciding it isn't for me. At that point I can go back to engineering or do something else.
Best of luck with whatever path you choose, it's not an easy choice. I can't imagine being stuck in a field I can't stand.

One thing to know up front is that most engineering disciplines I'm familiar with go 'stale' if you're not practicing. If you're out of the engineering pool for, say, 5 years flying and decide it's not for you you may not be competitive in the job market. Whether that applies to you and your field I don't know, but you might look into it. It definitely applies to my field, at least at my level.

As for flying vs. engineering, if I had left my engineering career for commercial flying I would have missed out on flying some amazing stuff. I wouldn't trade that for any other career. My hours are not particularly impressive compared to a 121 line pilot but the list of types, the capabilities, and the missions are.

Nauga,
who didn't wait for it to come to him
 
I think we're getting tooled around here. As mentioned earlier, if the OP is 23 he should have just finished the Bachelor degrees or is in final year. Nobody in their final year with that degree combo is gonna stop. Worst case, if you need a break drop the CS degree. Most engineering places will hire a EE to program anyway.

It took me 4 and a half years to get my BSEE and BSCS degrees..exact same setup given by the OP. When I was that far in they would have had to pull me away after all the work.

Actually he should do the exact opposite. Find a school with grad research assistant slots and he'll knock out grad school in 2 years at no cost and get a paycheck (I did that too).

Then learn to fly.
 
Best of luck with whatever path you choose, it's not an easy choice. I can't imagine being stuck in a field I can't stand.

One thing to know up front is that most engineering disciplines I'm familiar with go 'stale' if you're not practicing. If you're out of the engineering pool for, say, 5 years flying and decide it's not for you you may not be competitive in the job market. Whether that applies to you and your field I don't know, but you might look into it. It definitely applies to my field, at least at my level.

As for flying vs. engineering, if I had left my engineering career for commercial flying I would have missed out on flying some amazing stuff. I wouldn't trade that for any other career. My hours are not particularly impressive compared to a 121 line pilot but the list of types, the capabilities, and the missions are.

Nauga,
who didn't wait for it to come to him


True, but in my experience a “stale” engineer can catch up with a few classes if he has a solid grounding in fundamentals and if he’s only been away a few years. I agree that getting hired my be tougher, but right now we’re hiring like crazy so it could be done. Hard to predict the future, though.

In any case, you have to have a degree to get hired by an airline, so you might as well do it in something marketable like engineering.
 
True, but in my experience a “stale” engineer can catch up with a few classes if he has a solid grounding in fundamentals and if he’s only been away a few years. I agree that getting hired my be tougher, but right now we’re hiring like crazy so it could be done. Hard to predict the future, though.
I don't disagree, but things are a little different in my small circle of geeks :D

In any case, you have to have a degree to get hired by an airline, so you might as well do it in something marketable like engineering.
I can't imagine dragging myself through engineering school with no plans to use the degree as anything but a stepping-stone to a career that didn't explicitly require it. Why not philosophy? :eek::D

Nauga,
with twenty years of schooling but not always on the day shift :rolleyes:
 
I don't disagree, but things are a little different in my small circle of geeks :D

I can't imagine dragging myself through engineering school with no plans to use the degree as anything but a stepping-stone to a career that didn't explicitly require it. Why not philosophy? :eek::D

Nauga,
with twenty years of schooling but not always on the day shift :rolleyes:

Because if your flying career ends you’ll starve to death. :D
 
Best of luck with whatever path you choose, it's not an easy choice. I can't imagine being stuck in a field I can't stand.

One thing to know up front is that most engineering disciplines I'm familiar with go 'stale' if you're not practicing. If you're out of the engineering pool for, say, 5 years flying and decide it's not for you you may not be competitive in the job market. Whether that applies to you and your field I don't know, but you might look into it. It definitely applies to my field, at least at my level.

As for flying vs. engineering, if I had left my engineering career for commercial flying I would have missed out on flying some amazing stuff. I wouldn't trade that for any other career. My hours are not particularly impressive compared to a 121 line pilot but the list of types, the capabilities, and the missions are.

Nauga,
who didn't wait for it to come to him

I would venture to guess that your specific engineering position is a rather small subset/niche within engineering. Most engineers don't get the chance to fly around in airplanes. As you said yourself, your in a very competitive field. Hard for someone like me to compete against an MIT graduate who lives, sleeps, and breathes engineering. In regards to being "stale"...well, I am already behind the curve since I haven't "practiced" any mechanical engineering since I graduated (I am currently in a Materials Engineering role).

Don't get me wrong, I have a great respect for engineering. I'm surrounded by some people who are amazingly smart. It's amazing what engineers do and quite frankly, I think in many cases they are often underappreciated. I had a professor in school who used to say, "Engineers are the first to be blamed and the last to be thanked."

I think it is a little silly to say that my engineering degree and the effort I put into it was simply a waste of time, simply because I am thinking about exploring other avenues. I wasn't the smartest person in school, but I worked my azz off all 4 years (okay the first year I did a lot of snowboarding, but I achieved my goal of making Dean's List my last two years). Unfortunately, it seems my curiosity for other careers rubs people the wrong way. As if it is some sort of personal attack against anyone with an engineering career. Like I've stated previously, it is very possible I could end up back in the engineering field. If I can find another engineering job :D

Maybe I am an odd ball? Nothing new there. My guess is there are quite a few people with engineering degrees who didn't pursue life long engineering careers. hindsight2020 seems like a local example of that. In fact, I think I share much of the same perspective/feelings about engineering that he did (at least what I've gathered from his posts).

In response to your last comment about me "waiting for it to come to me". I don't quite understand. I'm pursuing my ratings right now and cash flowing it through my engineering job so that I have no debt. I don't feel as if I am waiting for anything to come to me. I'm young right now, I don't think there is anything wrong with trying something new, but I know many out there feel differently.

I think I will refrain from providing my 2 cents on these types of questions in the future (there seems to be a lot of questions related to this topic), as I think I am perceived as someone who is simply stirring the pot.

CC268,
future Piggly Wiggly cashier
 
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