Geez, Peggy, did you really want to admit to being that old? Even I postdate that era.
I suspect the percentage among airline crews is higher, especially among the regionals.
Based on my experience teaching in a university aviation program, those "worries" are already significant, and will increase pretty quickly over the next 10 years.
That was in '60 or '61. I wanted to join as a "radio mechanic" just like my Dad and came home outraged at him for not telling me that it would not be allowed. (sigh) Hope he forgave me for being so angry at him for believing in me. As an instructor, he had already taught me all he could about aviation and what would eventually be called avionics. Over the next couple of years he continued teaching me, sharing the education the Air Force gave him, encouraging me to read his college textbooks. He was my first programming teacher, in '63, leading me eventually into another male-dominated field.
Can't blame you for that. However using someone's external appearance as the determining factor is misguided at best.
Here's someone you might trust up front. He could never make a mistake, could he?
Yes it is.
No disagreement here.
You would guess wrong, but there are more yahoos there than here. Although reading the posts earlier in the thread, we have more of them here than I previously thought.
No disagreement here either.
I was curious about how big a sample of female pilots there could have been who were employed by a major airline in 1986-1992 who had a pilot-error accident. There were a grand total of 4. I don't think you can derive any meaningful statistical analysis from so small a sample size. Besides which, there are individuals flying the airplane, not statistics.
Funny. So we've accepted innate sex differences, and they all work out to be positive for women flying airplanes. I wonder if innate sex differences predispose women against being math/science professors.
Funny. So we've accepted innate sex differences, and they all work out to be positive for women flying airplanes. I wonder if innate sex differences predispose women against being math/science professors.
I am not one of those people. I accept that there are statistical differences in certain things between men and women but I also think that people tend to self-select the career field that is appropriate for them. Not everyone is in the middle of the bell curve. I think that when you see men in traditionally female fields or women in traditionally male fields they may come from one of the ends. Anecdotally, I have only flown in a crew with two different female pilots a total of less than five times, but the two of them were total opposites in personality and one was much more suited to the job than the other. I've flown with many men and they have also had wide ranges of personality and skills.
The reason he was so hot to take off was that he and his crew were about to "time out" of their crew duty period, and KLM would have had to fly in another crew to get the plane out of there (or wait for the original crew to go to a hotel, get 8 hours rest, and come back).
I've heard that opinion wasn't limited to women pilots. Look at the number of planes she wrecked (even before her fateful trip across the Pacific with a known drunk for a navigator). Had she not been married to a very wealthy man in the publishing business (George P. Putnam), it's not likely she would have been as famous a pilot as she was. There were many female pilots of her era who were far more skilled but never got her publicity.
She was no Jackie Cochran or Pancho Barnes, that's for sure. But to be fair, I think the key problem was her experience vs. her missions. She was the victim of her hype machine, ultimately. To be sure, yielding to pressure to "go for it" is pilot error, but I'm pretty sure that is not a weakness exclusive to the "weaker sex".
Gee, way to back up your opinion with a well-reasoned argument.
So let's try this again... WHY do you think it's "a steaming pile?"
The captain believed PanAm was clear and he was cleared for takeoff. Nothing anyone else in the cockpit said could change his mind. There were a lot of communication issues involved, including language, procedures, and the captain's bullheadedness.
It's kind of a toss-up. Generally the female has shorter feet allowing her to stand closer to the work stations. Plus they are often shorter with a lower center of gravity making picking up laundry or loading the dishwasher easier. Danielle is considering prohibiting me from kitchen operations because I tend to ruin pans and never put things away in the designated locations.Wow, this is a very useful piece of news! I'll stick with flying airplanes, but it sounds like Grant needs to do all the laundry and dishwashing, given that the buttons and dials on the washer and dryer are in grave danger from me, and his superior male hand-eye coordination and spatial skills will certainly come in handy when trying to get those pots and pans from the sink to the drying rack
Remember that this took place in 1977 when the captain-as-god idea was still pretty entrenched. We can be happy that the clocks have advanced on this subject as well as the attitude toward female pilots in the past 30-something years, at least among most people.
No comment.This sounds more like a concentrated effort on your part to have all the kitchen duties in your household performed by Danielle.
