If a person has a CFI and subsequently is qualified as a Part 135 instructor for his company in a multi-engine aircraft, can that training program and company qualification be used to add MEI to the certificate?
Part 135 Instructor - Add a rating to CFI?
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Not by itself. You still need to take the MEI checkride. There is no training requirement for an MEI. It is whatever it takes to get a CFI to endorse you to take the checkride.
Arnold
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I added mine during my ATP ride. I don't recall getting a sing off, but that was so long ago I don't have a very clear memory of it.
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It was different many years ago. I actually got my MEI during a FAA line check while flying for an old commuter airline.... and I was not a company IP.
I didn’t even ask for it. Literally the inspector just handed me my temporary. People on board and everything. I then asked if he could add my CFII. He asked if I had the written done. If I did, I would have got that as well.
Arnold
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The good old days.
luvflyin
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Isn't the Company breaking some rule? Qualifying you to instruct without the appropriate FAA Certifications.
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FAA says you can instruct for 135 & 121 with an ATP certificate.
Someone please correct me if that has changed.
Arnold
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I don't believe that has changed and I think was the reason why they gave me the MEI.
Arnold
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No. You are not instructing for the purpose of issuance of a certificate or rating.
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No. The company training manual outlines the requirements for a company instructor. Generally speaking, if you don’t hold a flight instructor certificate you’ll have to meet similar training requirements, but a flight instructor certificate isn’t part of that process.
Even for issuance of a certificate or rating (often the case with initial airline training), if that certificate or rating is part of the company training program, an instructor certificate isn’t required.
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MauleSkinner
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But no, you can get a single-engine ATP.
Arnold
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I believe the folks who drive FeEx caravans are required to have S.E. ATP.
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MauleSkinner
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An ATP used to be a requirement for scheduled 135 ops, but I can’t find that it is anymore.
I am one of those. No such requirement, just commercial and 1200 minimum hours (135.243)
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Arnold
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I stand corrected. Thanks.
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The OP didn't say anything about a checkride with the fed. All he mentioned was qualifying as a 135 instructor, which does not require a checkride of any sort, at least it didn't under the OpSpecs and GOM's that I have worked with.
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A line check is not a check ride in the normal sense. It is a normal flight with passengers from point A to B. In my case, back, when I was flying for a commuter, our Company's POI was riding from MHT to BOS to ISP and along the way he was giving me line check (something only Captains needed). I flew from MHT to BOS and he reinstated my expired CFI. The FO flew from BOS to ISP and while enroute, since I was a MEI, he had me sign an 8710 that he had filled out for the FO so that the POI could add a MEI to the FO's CFI. This was back in the early 90s when things were easier.
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14 CFR Part 135.299.
It's required to be given by a FAA Approved Check Airman or an Inspector. It has to be satisfactory, and it must be documented and has a time limitation.
So that makes it a "check ride" in my book.
martym
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I flew for a FedEx Caravan operator for 8 yrs and I don't have a S.E. ATP.
martym
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A failure is PRIA reportable as a failed checkride.