Dean Chesnut
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Has anyone had their plane painted in Mexico and how was the quality and comparative cost? Any recommendations?
This should be an interesting thread. Is painting airplanes in Mexico a thing?Has anyone had their plane painted in Mexico and how was the quality and comparative cost? Any recommendations?
Is painting airplanes in Mexico a thing?
This should be an interesting thread. Is painting airplanes in Mexico a thing?
Has Mexico changed their recent policy against allowing US experimental aircraft in?Any experience with getting E/ABs painted in Mexico?
Has Mexico changed their recent policy against allowing US experimental aircraft in?
Depends who you ask.
People I trust tell me it was never a policy. Just some comandantes flexing their muscles.
Other people I trust tell me it is a new rule.
Still others have helped friends bring their N experimentally into the country.
I have lived in Mexico for 12 years and have a bunch of pilot friends, as you would expect. Several have built planes, trucked them to the border and then registered them as US planes. So they are N registered exp planes that live full time in Mexico. They haven't reported anything unmanageable.
Operations in airspace outside of the United States will require the permission of the applicable foreign authority.
I believe the issue was that the Mexican aviation authority (AFAC) decided to begin enforcing this and wanted all experimentals to apply for and carry that permission. Prior to that, it was basically ignored. The hope was that they’d back down on that enforcement although they were well within their rights.
Huh, not as helpful as I would have thought. I guess step one is learning the gender of your airplane.
I guess that is what can happen when local authorities in any country try to do the federal authority's job for them or usurp it. At least here in the US, the doctrine of federal preemption and the FAA's territorial nature when it comes to aviation helps to stop that sort of thing from happening.Yes, that's the controversy as I understand it also. Some comandantes think that issuing the permit constitutes "permission of the applicable foreign authority", others (notably in Baja California) apparently read the regs differently (and suddenly, out of the blue).
Don't over complicate something so simple if tedious.
Well I guess the FAA needs to remove "painting" from the preventative maintenance list in Part 43 Appx A so no pilot gets busted then.....Painting is a major alteration and would require an IA and 337.
It’s preventative maintenance provided you’re not painting weighted control surfaces.Well I guess the FAA needs to remove "painting" from the preventative maintenance list in Part 43 Appx A so no pilot gets busted then.....
nope.Painting is a major alteration and would require an IA and 337.
I guess that is what can happen when local authorities in any country try to do the federal authority's job for them or usurp it. At least here in the US, the doctrine of federal preemption and the FAA's territorial nature when it comes to aviation helps to stop that sort of thing from happening.
Don't over complicate something so simple if tedious…
…Say 35% Federal, 4% state and 16% FICA. That's over 50%. It's the tax brackets that count not your average Income tax. Using today's low pressure guns which waste far less paint (reduced overspray) all materials would be about $3,000 or so. If a shop charged $13,000 for a 3 color paint I would have to earn over $26,000 to pay that shop so my net cost would be $23,000. It took me about two or three weeks for the whole job this works out to around $400,000 per year.
I'm wondering if flying the plane there (and back) will be that much cheaper than paint it in the USWanted to revive this post. Is there any updates of anyone who flew down to Mex and got their plane painted?
You often need to fly a plane to another distant location to get it painted in the U.S. But DIY at your home area may be by far the cheapest. It certainly was for me. Painting is not difficult but the modern, citified American male seems horrified and getting is hands dirty. Being a country hick I have painted my cars and planes many times. I painted both the C-210 and Caddy in the pix.I'm wondering if flying the plane there (and back) will be that much cheaper than paint it in the US