Oshkosh NOTAM Released

Does it change much year to year at this point?


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gsengle said:
Does it change much year to year at this point?
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According to the first page:
 TFRs expected 10-11:00 AM CDT Friday morning, July 28 and during afternoon airshows Monday-Sunday, July 24-30
Presumably, this is for the Blue Angels show and practice, previously it just warned you about the airshow times

 Military area changes in central Wisconsin
Reflects that the altitude limits on some of the nearby R-areas changed

 Oshkosh Taxiway Bravo designators changed
Taxiway Bravo used to end at Alpha. The piece east of Basler's ramp used to be Echo. Now it's Bravo all the way down and they renumbered the stub taxiways starting from the west making the last little piece of Echo, Bravo 4.

 Aircraft camping allowed at Appleton
Self-explanatory, it wasn't in previous years.

 IFR arrival and departure routings
 Airports added to IFR Special Traffic Management Program
Mostly the NOTAM was mute about airports other than OSH and ATW. Now they suck in the other nearby airports into the NOTAM IFR rules.
 
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Ha, should have opened it. But sounds like peripheral stuff


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gsengle said:
Ha, should have opened it. But sounds like peripheral stuff
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Well, of course! lol!

They've been doing it for over 60 years, they've got things pretty well nailed down by now. :)
 
Hey RW are you flying in this year? I'm going to fly my Maule in from Seattle for the big show and camp on the field.
 
Flyhound said:
Hey rw2 are you flying in this year? I'm going to fly my Maule in from Seattle for the big show and camp on the field.
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I am indeed. Zane might fly in with me too!

When are you arriving? I'm planning to go Sat or Sun before the show. If timing works you are welcome to arrive at my farm near KLNR camp overnight and then we can leave first thing in the morning to beat the crowd.
 
I also want to arrive before the show to be sure I get a place on the field and to give some wiggle room for weather. I'll stay in touch between now and my departure. Thanks for the invite to stop at your farm field. That would be fun if it works out.
 
If the weather is bad,or marginal ,you want to understand the notam,reservation numbers are a must,and there not easy to get the day your flying in
 
I've arrived twice IFR. It's not that big of a deal, though you may end up parked long enough to get your reservation. In actuality, not too many people avail themselves of IFR arrivals at OSH.

Of course, I hit there two days before the NOTAM went into effect a few years back with this exchange.

27K: looks like the clouds are closing up at Oshkosh. Can I get a clearance from you or do I have to go to FSS.
MKE: [SIGH] (he literally sighs over the air, like, crap it's starting already). Are you rated and equipped?
27K: affirmative.
MKE: Navion 5327K is cleared direct Oshkosh. Expect the VOR 9 approach.
27K: How about the RNAV 9?
MKE: OK expect that.

Interesting busting out of an 800' ceiling to the show.
 
Is Oshkosh like Sturgis, where it's a one-week event with a pregame week of about 10% of the maximum population and more trickling in and a postgame week while they trickle out?
 
I've never been to Sturgis, but there is a strong group of people who do arrive early, either because they want to be there at the very beginning or they are people like me who volunteer. I've noticed there's a definite crowd (at least down in Vintage) that come in early and then leave on Monday or Tuesday. One day of the "actual" show is enough for them. We do a lot of backfilling of spaces from early departures as the week goes on.

I usually show up the Wednesday before the show. That's in advance of most of the even die hard arrivals. I leave the Monday after it's all open. While things gradually ramp up as the show approaches, it slams to a shut pretty rapidly at airshow time on Sunday.
 
flyingron said:
I've never been to Sturgis, but there is a strong group of people who do arrive early, either because they want to be there at the very beginning or they are people like me who volunteer. I've noticed there's a definite crowd (at least down in Vintage) that come in early and then leave on Monday or Tuesday. One day of the "actual" show is enough for them. We do a lot of backfilling of spaces from early departures as the week goes on.

I usually show up the Wednesday before the show. That's in advance of most of the even die hard arrivals. I leave the Monday after it's all open. While things gradually ramp up as the show approaches, it slams to a shut pretty rapidly at airshow time on Sunday.
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This. There is a reason why Sunday is cheaper and marketed at the locals. Most of everyone that is left leaves on Sunday morning and is gone by the airshow time. Exhibitors are itching to take everything down and get home as well.
 
flyingron said:
I've arrived twice IFR. It's not that big of a deal, though you may end up parked long enough to get your reservation. In actuality, not too many people avail themselves of IFR arrivals at OSH.

Of course, I hit there two days before the NOTAM went into effect a few years back with this exchange.

27K: looks like the clouds are closing up at Oshkosh. Can I get a clearance from you or do I have to go to FSS.
MKE: [SIGH] (he literally sighs over the air, like, crap it's starting already). Are you rated and equipped?
27K: affirmative.
MKE: Navion 5327K is cleared direct Oshkosh. Expect the VOR 9 approach.
27K: How about the RNAV 9?
MKE: OK expect that.

Interesting busting out of an 800' ceiling to the show.
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LOL. I love the (sigh)...

I used an IFR to get OUT once, and that worked great. Slot time from the iPad the night before, and cranked and off as the first departure off of 9 the next morning. It was a Thursday.

Raising clearance delivery/ground was entertaining. Someone further out in the N40 had a slot behind us and the controllers obviously couldn't hear him calling. Two or three of us were fiddling around relaying for him so he could get his start up clearance. A few minutes later, a voice from ground who had "been there done this" finally just announced, "All aircraft with IFR slots, start engines and follow the flagmen to runway 9... if you need something else, call us again. We'll call you with your clearances once you're in a better spot where we can hear you." The old guy knew what was up. Heh.

Nobody expected anyone to be going anywhere in the low weather, so vehicles were dropping off volunteers with flags in front of us all the way to the runway from the north 40. LOL. Follow the flagmen... as they hop out of that pickup truck in front of you. Haha.

Overcast layer lifted as we were taxiing so it could have been a VFR departure anyway, or barely, but was kinda nice to get going when we needed to get going, either way.

The usual line of camera ships and performers going up to shoot morning air to air, had all bagged on it for low clouds. With the clouds having lifted, I had time to wing wag bye-bye instead of transitioning straight to the six pack. :)

I even had time to do a mini run-up while waiting for the pickup truck drop offs. Figured I might as well while watching the poor volunteers scramble out of the clown car... haha. At one of the stops the ground guy was obviously watching with binoculars... "Cessna 79M, got your IFR clearance, when ready to copy..." Sharp dude.

I got to be everyone's alarm clock in the North 40 that day. Fun.
 
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