Ok, really...WTF

As a side question, are the instructors usually paid 30%, 40%, or how much of what the schools are charging the students?
 
Plus One's rates in San Diego are pretty good.. huge fleet and fair rentals

https://www.plusoneflyers.org/fleet/montgomery-fleet

First plane on that page is a 172N renting for $90 an hour wet

**I think what you have to find is a place that's more of a club than a school. The schools want their airplanes flying and making money and know that people there have monster loans or rich parents so they can charge whatever they want from their captive audience..
 
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YKA said:
As a side question, are the instructors usually paid 30%, 40%, or how much of what the schools are charging the students?
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At Plus One you rent the instructor separately and the instructor keeps 100% of the rate they charge
 
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The place I got my ticket from was run more like a mom-n-pop operation....because it was. The owner was also the A&P, and did all his maintenance. He, himself, his wife, and his daughter all worked part-time there as well behind the front desk, and they had a number of hangers at the airport that they (I assume) sublet to others. Availability wasn't phenomenal, but not bad by any means. This guy, I think, truly had a passion for the flying/plane part of it all, and I doubt he was in it for the millions....I guess I just got lucky in finding that place. :confused:
 
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South of Atlanta I only pay $85 an hour wet for a 1978 180HP 172 with 2 G5s, G430 WAAS, Lynx 9000, and an STEC 30 autopilot with altitude hold and GPSS, but it is a club plane.
 
Leading edge aviation in Doylestown, PA. Probably about an hour from Northern NJ, depending on where you are. Their website has their fleet and prices, 172s vfr @$108 and ifr @ $118. I used to instruct there, Good people, 3000ft runway, light traffic. Northern NJ??... good luck, I made my escape from NJ to NC 10 years ago and have never looked back.
 
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How is that even possible
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By cheaping out on maintenance, usually. Just watch the threads on inflight failures of all sorts on some rental stuff. This may not be true in RGBeard's case, but the fact remains that aviation is not cheap, and low rental prices are usually too good to be safe.
 
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The place I got my ticket from was run more like a mom-n-pop operation....because it was. The owner was also the A&P, and did all his maintenance. He, himself, his wife, and his daughter all worked part-time there as well behind the front desk, and they had a number of hangers at the airport that they (I assume) sublet to others. Availability wasn't phenomenal, but not bad by any means. This guy, I think, truly had a passion for the flying/plane part of it all, and I doubt he was in it for the millions....I guess I just got lucky in finding that place. :confused:
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Yeah, there are places like that, but they love aviation too much to leave it. They could make far more money in other places for less work, responsibility and hassle, but they might not have fun doing it.
 
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I had a fixed gear Cessna 182 on leaseback once...lost my shirt. I was subsidizing other peolple's flying. Try owning an airplane...ain't cheap!!
Especially with the FBO taking a huge cut!
 
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I don't know if Fisher Aviation is still around at KCDW but they were a really good outfit
 
BrianNC said:
South of Atlanta I only pay $85 an hour wet for a 1978 180HP 172 with 2 G5s, G430 WAAS, Lynx 9000, and an STEC 30 autopilot with altitude hold and GPSS, but it is a club plane.
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That's an amazing rate! Congrats. The club rate I have for a 180 HP 172 is $135. But that is SO much cheaper than the rental rates at the schools around here.
 
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