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MyassisDragon

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Mr Fred
Thought I would get a login and start my posting with a big ole "Thank you" for the posts and opinions made public by this forum. I gained (and gain) a lot of knowledge by questions asked here.


All of 2012 was spent getting my PPL and all of 2013 was spent studying, researching on the internet and flying toward a successful completion of my Instrument check ride (passed on Christmas eve)

I also wanted to post (for those interested) what I found helpful in acquiring the rating (not that it was right, but just what I did).

1) Requested Flight Following on EVERY VFR flight with a destination when ever I got in the air, also planned landings at busier airports (this got me used to the ATC system even in only VFR conditions, Chicago MDW taught me more in 1 trip than 10 trips to a small airport with only 1 or 2 planes on approach)

2) Had (or found) a CFII that flys small jets and turbo props for a living (his daily use showed me many tricks in the cockpit like navigating the 430 with VOR radials and setting altitude reminders using the HSI, this also scored many compliments from the examiner after the check ride).

3) Purchased the sportys IFR program and used it on the exam or study mode almost "Every day" (mostly 30-45 minutes at lunch or evening when wife was watching something brainless on tv)

4) Purchased Rod machados IFR book on tape (or mp3) and played it in the car 100% of the time while driving instead of music.

5) Flew in the clouds IMC as much as possible "WITHOUT AUTOPILOT" (My CFI also task loaded me quite a bit while doing this while bouncing around in the clouds)

6) Constantly (every few days) plan fake trips around the country and see if you can fly them. (my CFI would text me about a trip he was making and ask if I could do it in my plane, so I would have to plan it and text him back the details)

7) Found another PILOT who was working on his Instrument rating and and agreed to be safety pilots for each other. The dialog in the cockpit while figuring out why we were just taught something was sometimes worth more than the time with my CFI (it was the light bulb moments).

8) Setup a computer with Microsoft Flight Simulator and the Saitek Yoke, pedals and throttle quadrant and USED IT (it was around $350 for everything and it really helped develop my instrument scan and you can simulate failures, plus I could drink a beer while flying:))

9) Last but not least I got an IPAD (mini) to fly and study with. (this allowed me to look at weather, approach charts, study for the written wherever I was) (I also got the cellular active one with a stratus 2 and dont leave home without it, and yes I do have backup charts/plates when flying) and yes the examiner allowed me to use it during the check ride but I made sure first.


Even though I only have around 200 hours My CFII was very very tough on me to be spot on and understood I was serious about getting my rating in order to be a safe conservative pilot. My family, friends and co workers all put their life in my hands as a pilot so I value the importance of responsibility.

I also have to mention that every day while helping my friend (currently) get his instrument rating I keep realizing just how much I don't know:mad2:, and that this learning journey is never going to end or that my knife can always be sharper.

Cheers
 
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Very nice first post! Welcome to PoA!! :yes: :cheers:
 
Fred, allow me to add to the welcome.

Your learning (not just "training") methodology sounds excellent- and reminds me that I need to get back into more learning, myself. I suspect that my instrument skills were never better than the week after my checkride.

Feel free to share any stories. Best, Spike.
 
Sounds like you did it right to me. Congrats and welcome. Keep flying in the system every time.
 
Welcome and congrats on the rating. Sounds like you have a good handle on how to proceed.
 
...awesome! I just got my PPL in September and trying to accrue some VFR hours before starting to work on my IFR. I'm also waiting for a couple of the other guys in our 4 way partnership to finally agree to upgrade our Garmin 300XL to a 430 and get rid of an old Loran and ADF that are inop...clean the panel up a bit before starting and learning on what I'll be flying.

I too use flight following on every flight and I live just north of the Austin, TX class C airspace and I fly out of a Class D towered airport so I'm in the system quite a bit. Definitely helps. One of the partners in my plane is a retired SWA captain...so when I start my IFR I definitely plan to do some flying with him (he's not current as a CFII anymore...) for some of those tricks and safety flying.

Welcome!!
 
I currently fly twice a week out of a few different airports in west michigan since I am renting. One day I will pick a plane and probably land in a hanger at KBIV.

But with my options I am not in a huge hurry.
Z98 has 2 Grumman AA5's
KBIV has a beat up 150
KGRR has a nice full glass Diamond DA40
HLM has my buddies Arrow
And if I get desperate KMKG is about 40 minute drive and fly some warriors or a lance

So I am checking off my list before I decide what to buy.
Still need to fly a few before I make a decision
The list so far is:

Beechcraft's A36&V-Tail F33 ect
Piper Cherokee 6
Mooney 201 (more for fun but little small)
Get more time in a 201
Commander 114..??
Cirrus sr22



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I got my private at Z98. Keep my Comanche at Hastings - which is for sale BTW,
 
Small world.
I think my buddy had the ad for your Comanche . Did you have a separate web page for it? Off white and brown with an updated dash?

My buddie keeps talking about trading his arrow for a faster Comanche and wanting me to partner...but I am worried about fitting bikes and golf clubs in it...

Why are you selling?
And just curious was your instructor Hugh or Gary ?


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Small world.
I think my buddy had the ad for your Comanche . Did you have a separate web page for it? Off white and brown with an updated dash?

My buddie keeps talking about trading his arrow for a faster Comanche and wanting me to partner...but I am worried about fitting bikes and golf clubs in it...

Why are you selling?
And just curious was your instructor Hugh or Gary ?


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That's the one.

I can fit a full sized mountain bike in the baggage area with the wheels taken off. And golf clubs aren't a problem at all. I haven't tried 4 guys and 4 sets of clubs though. At last annual I had a W&B done with the rear seat removed. Takes about 10 minutes to remove it, and with that out 2 bikes wouldn't be an issue at all.

Selling because about 85% of my non-training hours are solo, and I'm just tired of flying solo. No other reason. If that changed I would keep the plane. Though I expect that to happen sometime around the same time the Lions win the Super Bowl.

I did three check rides with Hugh but I don't think any of my instructor are still in the area.
 
EdFred could you post the link for your Comanche ? I am curious


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Great post!!! I'm in a similar position, but just starting IFR. I am doing most of the above and appreciate the additional suggestions. I bought King IFR, and this course rocks! It's a hoot watching Martha change ages (young, then older, then young) in various segments. But she's such an amazing teacher! Can't imagine anyone better.
 
P.S. - Which Machado book? Will try to search on Amazon.
 
Welcome to POA Mr. Fred. Get to know Ed up at hastings Hes a good guy. His family also runs one of the best little Fields 6Y9 that I've evern been too. Lots of fun and a great labor day weekend fly/camp in.
 
Wow nice plane! I'm thinking about going and looking at this one today.

http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ANCHE-260/1964-PIPER-COMANCHE-260/1289651.htm

Besides 10hp what is the difference between the 250 and 260?

This is the first plane I'm going to go look at with the idea of purchasing in my head. Is it a decent plane for a first plane? I've been flying an Archer II out of UES for my PPL training and was originally thinking of getting my complex endorsement right away and buy an Arrow but I hadn't even heard of Commanche's till yesterday.

What things should I look at / watch out for? Anything specific to this model? Or in general?
 
Wow nice plane! I'm thinking about going and looking at this one today.

http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ANCHE-260/1964-PIPER-COMANCHE-260/1289651.htm

Besides 10hp what is the difference between the 250 and 260?

This is the first plane I'm going to go look at with the idea of purchasing in my head. Is it a decent plane for a first plane? I've been flying an Archer II out of UES for my PPL training and was originally thinking of getting my complex endorsement right away and buy an Arrow but I hadn't even heard of Commanche's till yesterday.

What things should I look at / watch out for? Anything specific to this model? Or in general?

The 260s are fuel injected.

Here's some things to look for that are Comanche specific:

Tail horn AD compliance (there's a few ways this is being handled)
Gear AD (1000hr inspection)
I see that one has a 2 blade prop, so you will have a 500hr (an/or 5yr) prop inspection.

Those are really the biggies.

Almost all the other ADs are visual inspections - other than the gear bungee replacement which only costs like $100 every 3 years.
 
The only thing you get with that plane that is not on Ed's is the (ancient) autopilot. And, Ed has lots of stuff better (panel!).

If I needed a plane today, Ed's would be on my short list.

Assuming, of course, he actually wants to sell it. :D
 
The only thing you get with that plane that is not on Ed's is the (ancient) autopilot. And, Ed has lots of stuff better (panel!).

If I needed a plane today, Ed's would be on my short list.

Assuming, of course, he actually wants to sell it. :D


That's what I'm thinking!! I wasn't thrilled with the one I saw today, but the guy let me know of a Bonanza (250 or 260hp range) that might be coming up for sale too.

Also, where this guy has his hanger seems to be one of the best kept secrets in the SE Wisconsin area!! Regardless of buying a plane from there, I think I'm going to rent space there maybe even before I buy a plane.

EdFred, I'm kinda new to the process.. I'll be in touch. Hopefully I can find my way over by you someday very soon. Not sure about the idea of flying over the pond though.. Gives me the heebie-jeebies.
 
EdFred, I'm kinda new to the process.. I'll be in touch. Hopefully I can find my way over by you someday very soon. Not sure about the idea of flying over the pond though.. Gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Just stare at your instrument panel, and turn the water feature off on your GPS, you'll never know you're over it. ;) I've crossed it at a number of places. Even straight across to Milwaukee to catch a Brewers-Phillies game.
 
Just stare at your instrument panel, and turn the water feature off on your GPS, you'll never know you're over it. ;) I've crossed it at a number of places. Even straight across to Milwaukee to catch a Brewers-Phillies game.
Yeah, and besides, this time of year the water temperature ain't that much colder than in the summertime. :rolleyes:

dtuuri
 
Yeah, and besides, this time of year the water temperature ain't that much colder than in the summertime. :rolleyes:

dtuuri

Depends on your definition of "much." The middle of Lake Michigan doesn't get that warm in the summer. Stays around 50° if I'm not mistaken. On 1/13 they were showing 37° in the middle of Lake Michigan where I cross. So, your sarcasm is actually misplaced.
 
Depends on your definition of "much." The middle of Lake Michigan doesn't get that warm in the summer. Stays around 50° if I'm not mistaken. On 1/13 they were showing 37° in the middle of Lake Michigan where I cross. So, your sarcasm is actually misplaced.
My sarcasm was meant to highlight the fact the water is cold enough in the summertime there to result in the same death or exhaustion as in the winter. In other words, there's no safe time to cross the lake in a single. But if you do anyway, watch this first--and don't forget to have a seatbelt cutter and keep your thumbs on the outside of the control yoke as you hit the water:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/cg534/sarfactsinfo/ditching_watersurvivalairventure08.ppt

dtuuri
 
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