New Engines for the 310

Ted

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Well, as any of you who've been following the Belize trip know, the 310 is back in operation. At 2100 hours SFRM, the last set of engines were tired and needed to be replaced. Driving factors included that the left engine was puking a profuse amount of oil out of the breather, and when and propping it felt like you were spinning the prop on a PT-6 (anyone who's done this will understand what I mean). Since the plane was donated to Cloud Nine with the engines at TBO, the fact that we got 2 years and 400 hours out of the plane is quite impressive. I attribute this to good care by the previous owner, and careful operation and good care by us plus use of the JPI. We were seeing 175 KTAS normally, and about 168-170 KTAS on a hot day with a plane full of dogs, both with 25-26 GPH combined fuel burn, running LOP with stock injectors.

Our goal was to get a good set of engines that would last us at least 2100 hours again (preferably longer), and hopefully do what we could to improve performance. With the trips that we do for Cloud Nine, even being able to shave 30 minutes off of an 8 hour day would be nice, provided we can do so economically. Running ROP is a bad option with this plane, because to keep CHTs low you have to run a ridiculous fuel burn. Because the engines were previously factory remans with new cases and cranks, we chose to have these engines overhauled by a reputable shop rather than do another factory reman or an upgrade STC (at this point, the only upgrade we could do would be a 300 HP IO-550 conversion vs. our current 300 HP IO-520s).

After talking to a number of overhaul shops, we chose to go with Charlie Merlot and Zephyr Aircraft Engines. Charlie has a great reputation for the quality of his work, both on this forum and outside. In a time when many well-known shops are having various quality control concerns, I haven't heard a single bad word uttered or typed about Zephyr. That gives us a great deal of confidence in their work. Additionally, Charlie was responsive and great to work with, and open to making these overhauls "custom" to our liking. He was also kind enough to provide Cloud Nine with a discount on the overhauls, which we do truly appreciate.

Beyond the standard overhaul procedure, we asked Charlie to have the rotating assemblies balanced and perform a 3-angle valve job on the cylinders. Vibrations are not only annoying in the cockpit and add to human fatigue, but they aren't good for any mechanical device. Anything you can do to reduce vibrations means more power is going into making the plane go, and less wear is being placed on the airplane. When asked what he would recommend on the cylinders to get some extra flow out of them, Charlie recommended the 3-angle valve job for a very reasonable price, so we went with that.

We also installed GAMIjectors in our engines, which GAMI provided us at the dealer cost (thanks, GAMI!). You all may remember the SkyTec ad in EAA - they were kind enough to donate us a pair of C24ST5 starters for that, which are more powerful and spin the engines faster. The Tanis heaters were working great, but the pads that get glued to the crankcase and sump were damaged during removal, and Tanis was kind enough to donate those to us, as well.

We decided to go with ECi Titan cylinders for the overhaul. This was a bit of a question mark for us, and time will tell if it was the right decision (or if there was a right decision). Most people I've talked to agree that ECi Titans are the best cylinders available for Continentals, despite their cracking issues. They also have supposedly improved their design vs. previous to make the cylinders better/stronger/etc. We'll see how that goes. So far, I've been very happy - but 25 hours doesn't tell you much!

While the plane was down, it came due for annual, so we did that as well. Also did a few other minor improvements on the aircraft - Jerry Temple gave us a set of his colored switch covers (which do a great deal for switch recognition, especially at night), and Whelen gave us a significant discount on a set of their landing and taxi lights.

On the airframe side, we replaced the exhausts, fuel hoses, and redid the cooling baffles. All are important items, and I think good to pay attention to at overhaul. Many people ignore them and end up with cracked exhausts, leaky fuel hoses, and poor engine cooling. It's worth noting that, if bad enough, poor cooling baffles will not only screw up your engines, but also screw up your cruise speed through increased drag. I also swapped the backup AI with the one in the Aztec. The Aztec had a newer 52D67 AI that drove the autopilot (same one the 310 uses). Newer, better condition, and also blue over brown instead of blue over black. Now all the AIs in the 310 match, and it helps update the interior. Lastly, I did some fiberglass work on the nose bowls and repainted them, which just improves appearance.

A few weeks ago, I took the 310 on its first test flights, and then shortly after Christmas flew to Belize and back. We now have 25 hours on the engines, and I can safely say I've flown it throughout most of the full operating envelope that I expect to so far as temperatures are concerned. What do I think?

FAST! Charlie and his team build one hell of an engine (or in this case would it be two hells of engines?). The first thing I notice on takeoff is that, while the engines would hit 2700 RPM before and then climb up to the takeoff max of 2850 RPM, now they go straight to 2850 RPM and off we go. Climb is significantly improved, and in cruise we're now seeing 180-190 KTAS on ~28 GPH combined. Part of this is that we are now running at 2500 RPM vs. 2300 RPM before, but to see a 10-15 kt improvement for only 3 gallons per hour, well, these are some happy engines. Even hot and heavily loaded we were seeing about 178 KTAS. Not bad, not bad at all. I've been keeping altitudes low for break-in. Oil consumption is very good, and at 25 hours the oil still looks brand new. These engines are solid. Best of all, no leaks!

We're still sorting out a few minor things with the plane, which is not unexpected. The engines are solid and happy, though.

Really, the whole plane feels surprisingly newer from the changes made. Not only is it faster and more efficient, but taking care of the wear on the nose bowls makes it look sharper sitting on the ramp. The interior feels newer with new switch covers vs. the old, worn, faded and discolored switch covers, and lastly having the blue over brown AIs on both the pilot and co-pilot side. The only part of the panel now that feels old is the Collins Nav/Com (which is on its way out and we will likely replace before long).

The LED landing and taxi lights have made a believer out of me for the positives of LED in aircraft applications. Not only do they have a significantly lower current draw, but I can see where I'm going much better for night taxiing and takeoffs, and it does help update the look and feel of the plane. Perhaps the biggest improvement is the taxi light. With standard incandescent taxi lights, you get a very dim glow that is effectively useless, at least on the planes I've flown. For the Whelen lights, my understanding is the taxi light is identical to the landing lights, other than having a 40 degree diffuser instead of a 10 degree diffuser. This means you get as much light as a landing light, just spread out over a wider area. It's a great improvement.

To anyone getting ready to consider an engine overhaul, I can certainly recommend Charlie and Zephyr, and would suggest that you talk to them in weighing your options.

Now we're 1% of the way towards our next set of engines. Let's see how this goes...
 
Great write up....

Didn't want to port and polish the cylinders?...

Who did the balancing... In house or shipped out ?.

Glad to see Cloud Nine up and running again... lean of peak no less.;)
 
Great write up....

Didn't want to port and polish the cylinders?...

I asked Charlie about that. The basic response was that the 520s don't benefit a great deal from that, and the cost would be pretty significant. So the 3-angle valve job made more sense.

Who did the balancing... In house or shipped out ?.

I think that was done elsewhere, but you'd have to ask Charlie.

Glad to see Cloud Nine up and running again... lean of peak no less.;)

We've always been flying LOP. This is just the best we've ever done it. :)
 
Great write up....

Didn't want to port and polish the cylinders?...

Who did the balancing... In house or shipped out ?.

Glad to see Cloud Nine up and running again... lean of peak no less.;)


Have you looked at 520 ports? For as low an RPM as these engines run I don't see much I could do with the intake pockets, maybe open up a bit in the 90-180 region behind the guide and get all the scratching set for best swirl and turbulence, but it would be marginal. Polishing the exhausts I can't see with log style exhaust, that's just lipstick on a pig. All I did for my buddy was just match port the intake runner to the port and called it good as he already had a three angle valve job. This one was in a Navion and there wasn't a tuned exhaust available, I offered to build him a set of tri-ys but it was going to be too much of a hassle and expense to certify.

At the end of the day, if you don't have tuned exhaust on an NA engine, you're wasting your time and effort doing too much in the porting and polishing, but that's not anything you don't already know.;)
 
Have you looked at 520 ports? For as low an RPM as these engines run I don't see much I could do with the intake pockets, maybe open up a bit in the 90-180 region behind the guide and get all the scratching set for best swirl and turbulence, but it would be marginal. Polishing the exhausts I can't see with log style exhaust, that's just lipstick on a pig. All I did for my buddy was just match port the intake runner to the port and called it good as he already had a three angle valve job. This one was in a Navion and there wasn't a tuned exhaust available, I offered to build him a set of tri-ys but it was going to be too much of a hassle and expense to certify.

At the end of the day, if you don't have tuned exhaust on an NA engine, you're wasting your time and effort doing too much in the porting and polishing, but that's not anything you don't already know.;)

Agreed on the large port size -V- intake air speed... Back in the day one of the huge gains we made in VE was introducing a swirl to help homogenize the intake charge... In such a lagre bore I would think that result is decent gains in performance..... Wish I still had a flow bench to prove the effort...
 
Agreed on the large port size -V- intake air speed... Back in the day one of the huge gains we made in VE was introducing a swirl to help homogenize the intake charge... In such a lagre bore I would think that result is decent gains in performance..... Wish I still had a flow bench to prove the effort...

My previous experience has to do with engines that are painted gray rather than gold, so I'm not sure - but I can say that, with gray paint, there are some significant gains to be had from porting. Never played around with gold engines in that regard.

You do get into certification issues at a certain point, since you are limited in what you are allowed to do. Basically I think what is allowed on a certified engine is cleaning up the ports to flow match all the heads. Of course, I also doubt if anyone would measure to see if you made anything additional there. Being a still certified airframe (how I long for owner experimental), we do need to honor that, otherwise I would've opted for 10:1 pistons and a redone cam.

RAM has a PMA'd cam that does supposedly improve performance, but it's only for 520s with front-mount alternators. We have front-mount oil coolers.

Have you dynamically balanced the engines also?

You mean with the props once installed? Not yet. It was recommended that we wait until after the 25 hour mark since there's a decent bit of ground running involved. There's also an uncertain mist that may be one of the props (they're past being yeared out, although otherwise working fine), so I want to get that diagnosed first. If the props need attention of some form, may as well wait until after that.

Hmm... some of those props they're selling stock on the SR22s and Malibus these days would look really nice on the 310. Too bad they have a not-so-nice price tag. ;)
 
To anyone getting ready to consider an engine overhaul, I can certainly recommend Charlie and Zephyr, and would suggest that you talk to them in weighing your options.

I'll second that, he overhauled a set of 0-360-A4M cylinders for a super cub we built, and they are running strong approaching 2000 hours, with compressions in the low 70s and oil consumption at 15 hours to the quart.

He's also built a 0-320 using the superior engine kit, and ECI cylinders, I did the annual today, it has a little over 100 hours and it's running great with compression at 78/80.

Great work, fare prices.
 
Agreed on the large port size -V- intake air speed... Back in the day one of the huge gains we made in VE was introducing a swirl to help homogenize the intake charge... In such a lagre bore I would think that result is decent gains in performance..... Wish I still had a flow bench to prove the effort...

Flow benches are nice.:yesnod: thing is they don't really indicate the quality of flow. I remember taking a pair of SBC 'Turbo' heads and opening from 2.02s to 2.05s and lost .2 seconds. Another buddy handed me a set of Vortecs and I wouldn't touch them, they finally figured them out, then gave up the whole engine lol.
 
You can't go wrong with Charlie. Nice write up Ted, very interesting.
 
Where've you been, Duncan? Need to catch up sometime. :)
 
Hope it goes well for you Ted. Powermasters wouldn't stand behind ECIs if we had put them on. Don't recall the issue, but maybe it was specific to our P Baron. Charlie has a great reputation. Did you get the Bahama domicile discount (g).

Best,

Dave
 
That's an interesting data point, Dave, and one that I should have asked prior to pulling the trigger. Which cylinders did you end up going with on the P-Baron?

As I understand it, the ECi cylinder concern is primarily in higher-power turbocharged engines that have higher internal cylinder pressures and temperatures, which is exacerbated by high CHTs. If that's true, it makes sense for PowerMasters to not stand behind the cylinders since your P-Baron is rated at 325 HP, but probably making a bit more than that. My friend's RAM T310R (making 335-340 HP per RAM) has ECi cylinders, and at 600 hours or so SNEW they're working. I'm hopeful that with my measly 300 HP naturally aspirated engines, it'll work.

I was also thinking about our discussion on climb performance from Friday. I'll PM you about that.
 
One of the reasons our plane was down so long was we were waiting for Superior Millenniums. They were about four months later than expected. Bill was installing ECis until the Millenniums became available again. We had those previously and were very pleased with them in spite of FAA's SB.

There was a recent conversation on Beechtalk that RAM wouldn't warranty ECis. Something in their paperwork when you brought your plane in. I don't know why Bill wouldn't but he took that position that with ECis, if something happened to a cylinder, we'd have to replace it. With the Superiors, he stood behind it and we were thankful he did. He put a new number 5 and 6 on our left after that early failure.

Best,

Dave
 
Duncan: Sorry to hear :( where to?

Dave: Interesting to hear. Well, I suppose time will tell with our engines whether or not we made the right decision. If I'd understood RAM's policy correctly, one always got ECi cylinders and Slick mags due to some agreements they had, but I could have a misunderstanding or they could have changed. 25 hours so far and these are working well. If they're still happy at 1,000 hours, then I'll be happy. If not, it'll be time to reevaluate.
 
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