New 8710-1

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The FAA has revamped the 8710-1.

If you look on the top right under "Other Information/Request" you'll see a couple of new items:

1) Flight Review

2) Instrument Proficiency Check

Also notice on the back side, top. "Instructor Action"

Also 2 boxes for 1 and 2 above.
 
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Other new items in that block include:

  • Medical Flight Test
  • Limitation Removal
  • IPL
I believe IPL is Implementation of Procedures for Licensing regarding conversion of Canadian licenses to US, covered by AC 61-135.
 
It looks like soon Flight Reviews and IPC's will have to have an 8710 filled out and submitted as well as log book endorsements.
 
RotorAndWing said:
It looks like soon Flight Reviews and IPC's will have to have an 8710 filled out and submitted as well as log book endorsements.
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Have to find some way to generate some work for the FAA since they won't be having to mess with the medicals so much anymore...They sure wouldn't want to decrease the amount of labor they need.
 
jesse said:
Have to find some way to generate some work for the FAA since they won't be having to mess with the medicals so much anymore...
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If it's through IACRA it's no work for the FAA at all, at least nothing significant besides IT. The CFI's put it into the database.
 
jesse said:
Have to find some way to generate some work for the FAA since they won't be having to mess with the medicals so much anymore...They sure wouldn't want to decrease the amount of labor they need.
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I see it as a way to track flight reviews and IPC's. Also, the 8710 is a legal document, so for the Instructors pencil whipping FR's and IPC's the stakes get higher.
 
RotorAndWing said:
It looks like soon Flight Reviews and IPC's will have to have an 8710 filled out and submitted as well as log book endorsements.
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An instructor, completing a flight review, will have to submit the details of same on an 8710-1?

Any date set for implementation?
 
It would let ATC know if you are within a FR period, but it doesn't really do anything for IFR info since at least until they change some more rules, IPCs aren't required to keep IFR legal, and since you never need to call ATC for VFR, I'm not seeing where this info has any day to day regulatory ability in the current system. I wonder what it's about.:dunno:
 
I call ATC for VFR every time I fly. I'm at a ClassD airport. But all they get is an N number, they have no friggen idea who the pilot is.
 
That makes sense, wasn't 2015 the deadline for some of those conventions to implement?
 
Perhaps they want to track how many pilots are actively flying. Counting medical certificates hasn't worked since 2004 (or ever for glider pilots).
 
They also revamped the 8050-1. The ones I received from OK City did not have the green copy in them.
 
RotorAndWing said:
It looks like soon Flight Reviews and IPC's will have to have an 8710 filled out and submitted as well as log book endorsements.
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I don't think there's anything like that in any regulation, either effective or proposed. However, it does provide means for an examiner conducting an IPC/FR as an examiner rather than as an instructor to document the process, since someone acting as an examiner isn't authorized to sign for training, and normally a flight review or IPC is "training".
 
Ron Levy said:
I don't think there's anything like that in any regulation, either effective or proposed. However, it does provide means for an examiner conducting an IPC/FR as an examiner rather than as an instructor to document the process, since someone acting as an examiner isn't authorized to sign for training, and normally a flight review or IPC is "training".
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My understanding is it was put in by legal for "future use", and the consensus was changes under consideration.

YMMV.
 
RotorAndWing said:
My understanding is it was put in by legal for "future use", and the consensus was changes under consideration.

YMMV.
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Did some checking, and your understanding is closer than my guess. This is part of a plan to allow alternate means to document IPC's and FR's without having to carry a logbook around or to make a logbook endorsement. It will be strictly an optional alternative. Anything else would require going through the rulemaking process, and they don't want to go through that hassle (both paper and time). So, the old-fashioned logbook endorsement will remain an acceptable means to document IPC's and FR's if the parties involved don't want to go through IACRA to document it there.
 
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