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So how did this item get onto my windows and how do I remove it? It is an installation wizard that wants to install some type of software to check to see if all of my software is "genuine." While I am quite sure mine is, because I bought and installed it myself, I have no intention of installing something that will decide for itself that I have a "pirated" software and try to disable it. Anyone have any idea how to remove this. It loads on startup and asks if I want to install it, to which I answer no each time. It does not load anything, but I am tired of it popping up.
 
By the way, I'm pretty sure the advantage in "Genuine Advantage" is Microsoft's, not the customer's.
 
So how did this item get onto my windows and how do I remove it? It is an installation wizard that wants to install some type of software to check to see if all of my software is "genuine." While I am quite sure mine is, because I bought and installed it myself, I have no intention of installing something that will decide for itself that I have a "pirated" software and try to disable it. Anyone have any idea how to remove this. It loads on startup and asks if I want to install it, to which I answer no each time. It does not load anything, but I am tired of it popping up.

Look at "who owns your PC" at http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/25.94.html

I'm so glad I don't have ms windows in any flavor on my computers.
 
Dig through the list of "services" running and you may find it... if so... you can disable it.
 
Ugh, too late, Bryon.
EVERYONE needs to image their HD EVERY DAY. Then if something appears that you don't wnat, you simply rescribe the previous day's image.
Done!
 
Don't think that Apple is any better. See here.

There's a difference between buggy software that may disable your entire computer even though you didn't do anything wrong, and what amounts to a remote kill-switch for a particular piece of software (which, BTW, has never been used). The latter could also be viewed as the ultimate anti-virus.
 
There's a difference between buggy software that may disable your entire computer even though you didn't do anything wrong, and what amounts to a remote kill-switch for a particular piece of software (which, BTW, has never been used). The latter could also be viewed as the ultimate anti-virus.

Amazon has used the "kill switch" already on the Kindle to delete books that folks purchased - even though the buyers didn't do anything wrong. I have no reason to believe that Apple will act any differently given the "closed" nature of the system.

Apple has removed programs/content from the store when they didn't like it.

Personally, I'd rather be able to buy programs and content from a variety of places rather than being forced to use the manufacturer's store. That is part of the reason that I have no interest in owning an iPhone.

But if it works for you.....
 
Maybe not exact, but similar.

I just love the Macatics...they will defend apple to their dying days! :D

it might be more useful if you didn't toss labels around without
justification
 
it might be more useful if you didn't toss labels around without
justification

Hey man....notice the smiley? It was a fun poke, a bit of OS rivalry. Sorry...I guess it got lost in translation.

To me an OS is secondary to what it can provide. For me it is Windows, at work it is Windows/Linux, and on my soon-to-be-bought iPhone it will be whatever Apple has on there.

I am truly OS agnostic, the OS is a layer to provide tools, not the endpoint itself. At least not to me.
 
Not the same:
Windows has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Apple has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Totally different beast!
 
Not the same:
Windows has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Apple has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Totally different beast!
:D:D:D I get it now! One is cool, the other isn't!
 
Not the same:
Windows has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Apple has the ability to disable software it deems not genuine.

Totally different beast!

Windows will disable your OS, AKA the entire machine, and has done so on many occasions, even when the software was NOT pirated, causing headaches for many.

Apple can kill single apps (NOT the entire phone), but has yet to do so.

Not the same. :nono:
 
Amazon has used the "kill switch" already on the Kindle to delete books that folks purchased - even though the buyers didn't do anything wrong. I have no reason to believe that Apple will act any differently given the "closed" nature of the system.

Apple has removed programs/content from the store when they didn't like it.

Yes, but they have NEVER removed content from anyone's phone, even the stuff that was pulled from the store. In fact, I have a piece of software called iPint that was pulled from the store pretty quickly (probably because it's got a Grayling glass) but not only do I still have it, I was able to install it onto my new iPhone.

I *do* have reason to believe that Apple will act differently than Amazon: They have a track record of pushing for the right of their users to *own* content, whereas the record companies tend to prefer the subscription model (listen to anything you want, but you have to pay a monthly fee). They also know what a massive PR mess it would create if they started taking away people's apps. Finally, as a LONG-time Apple customer, I know that they value their customers. They know that their legions of "fanboys" are a major asset, and so they go about creating more of them, by treating their customers really well.

Apple has a kill-switch solely to be able to remove any malware that might slip through the cracks of the app store approval process - Having an iPhone virus would be a major PR mess as well! Yes, the system is "closed" but really, the system is "protected." And so it just works. That's what I want my gadgets to do. :yes:
 
Windows will disable your OS, AKA the entire machine, and has done so on many occasions, even when the software was NOT pirated, causing headaches for many.

Apple can kill single apps (NOT the entire phone), but has yet to do so.

Not the same. :nono:

A quick google search indicates that without WGA, you don't autiomatically get the updates and patches, although you can get them through other means. This is not the same as disabling the machine.

I'll call you on this in the same fashion as you claimed there were no Macintosh viruses, although I personally experienced them.

If you have personal experience that WGA bricked your computer (not hearsay), I apologize.
 
Windows will disable your OS, AKA the entire machine, and has done so on many occasions, even when the software was NOT pirated, causing headaches for many.

Apple can kill single apps (NOT the entire phone), but has yet to do so.

Not the same. :nono:


Really? Tell me again how Windows Genuine Advantage disables an OS?

Windows Genuine Advantage verifies the legality of Windows before downloading updates and certain pieces of software (like, for instance, DirectX).

So again - Microsoft has the ability to disable certain pieces of software, not the OS.

Apple has the ability to disable certain pieces of software, not the OS.

Totally different.
 
Windows will disable your OS, AKA the entire machine, and has done so on many occasions, even when the software was NOT pirated, causing headaches for many.

Apple can kill single apps (NOT the entire phone), but has yet to do so.

Not the same. :nono:

I seem to remember something about bricked phones because folks had the audacity to try and use programs not blesses by Apple.

Yes, but they have NEVER removed content from anyone's phone, even the stuff that was pulled from the store. In fact, I have a piece of software called iPint that was pulled from the store pretty quickly (probably because it's got a Grayling glass) but not only do I still have it, I was able to install it onto my new iPhone.

I *do* have reason to believe that Apple will act differently than Amazon: They have a track record of pushing for the right of their users to *own* content, whereas the record companies tend to prefer the subscription model (listen to anything you want, but you have to pay a monthly fee). They also know what a massive PR mess it would create if they started taking away people's apps. Finally, as a LONG-time Apple customer, I know that they value their customers. They know that their legions of "fanboys" are a major asset, and so they go about creating more of them, by treating their customers really well.

Apple has a kill-switch solely to be able to remove any malware that might slip through the cracks of the app store approval process - Having an iPhone virus would be a major PR mess as well! Yes, the system is "closed" but really, the system is "protected." And so it just works. That's what I want my gadgets to do. :yes:

You may want that so-called "protection". (It's like the stereotypical mafia: "pay me a portion of everything you spend on content for protection".

Frankly, I'd rather not have some company try and "protect" me. I'd rather be able to choose, buy, run, test, make, etc. programs without having to get Apple's blessing and pay them a tribute. I'd prefer to have an open source for content (iPad is aimed at the "reader" market) rather than being limited to the things Apple supplies. There IS a difference between content and programs..... generally tunes, ebooks, etc. won't cause malware.

Apple controls the content. I'd bet that an application (or content) that were negative toward Apple would be denied from the store. Much as I hate Flash, Apple is deliberately closing its customers off from significant amounts of content by denying the ability of Flash to run on the devices.

Were this MS doing this, folks (including me) would be screaming.

Censorship, whether it's by intermediary/content company or government, is not a good thing.
 
A quick google search indicates that without WGA, you don't autiomatically get the updates and patches, although you can get them through other means. This is not the same as disabling the machine.

When WGA first came out, there were issues.... With what you and Nick are saying, they may have been bugs and not getting actively disabled. Coulda sworn it even happened to people on this board, but I don't have time to search right now, gotta leave in a minute.

I'll call you on this in the same fashion as you claimed there were no Macintosh viruses, although I personally experienced them.

I've never said there were no Mac viruses. In fact, I believe the first computer virus was on a Mac. nVir was a common one back in the day...

If you have personal experience that WGA bricked your computer (not hearsay), I apologize.

I don't own a Windows computer, so not exactly possible. :no:
 
Well....Come on guys... We're not exactly comparing like products.

I'm not aware of anything resembling "WGA" in Mac OS X.

Comparing Windows to the iPhone OS really doesn't work. Totally different platform. Do I like the way distribution on the App Store works, not really.

A bigger issue in Windows then WGA is the activation system that *can* leave your computer not working until you get Microsoft's permission. I'm not aware of any such system in Mac OS.
 
I seem to remember something about bricked phones because folks had the audacity to try and use programs not blesses by Apple.

Nope - The phones that were bricked were the ones that were not only jailbroken, but cracked - Baseband overwritten to allow the phones to be put on T-Mobile. Apple even warned that this would happen if they updated. They do have some contractual obligations to AT&T to uphold, and you can't exactly expect them to support phones that are not running their version of the software any more.

There IS a difference between content and programs..... generally tunes, ebooks, etc. won't cause malware.

The "kill switch" isn't for removing a piece of content. The kill switch is for disabling a program.

Apple controls the content.

Not exactly. You can still get your music from any source you want - Provided it's in a format that's playable on the iPod/iPhone. For example, you can buy music from AmazonMP3 and put it on your iPhone, no problem. They (Amazon) even wrote some software to make it easy. I have several thousand tracks on my iPhone, only 167 of which were purchased from the iTunes store.

Much as I hate Flash, Apple is deliberately closing its customers off from significant amounts of content by denying the ability of Flash to run on the devices.

To a point - But Flash is a buggy piece of crap, which is why they won't allow it on the phone in the first place, because it creates a bad user experience. In fact, in the latest versions of Mac OS, they rewrote their Safari browser so that plug-ins run in a separate thread and will not take down the browser when they crash. Since then, my browser has not crashed at all - It's always Flash that crashes! Frankly, I'm glad they're trying to kill it, and because of their efforts so far, there are VERY few sites that actually require flash. Even those that have flash are reworking to get around it or exclude it entirely.
 
YooHoo guys. I didn't see anything in here resembling a way to remove this.

I can and do still download and install updates frequently. It does not block access to the security updates that I get. I was just wondering if there is a foolproof way to keep it from loading up every time the computer starts. It is just the original screen asking if I want to install it, and I just hit cancel and it is gone, until I restart the computer. I haven't really worked in the file system for a long time, so the rustiness is very apparent.
 
A bigger issue in Windows then WGA is the activation system that *can* leave your computer not working until you get Microsoft's permission. I'm not aware of any such system in Mac OS.

Ah. I think I might have been confusing that with WGA.
 
<SNIP>

I've never said there were no Mac viruses. In fact, I believe the first computer virus was on a Mac. nVir was a common one back in the day...
<SNIP>

Kent- an apology to you....I got you confused with someone else who made that claim. In fact, you said the opposite in other posts.
 
YooHoo guys. I didn't see anything in here resembling a way to remove this.

I can and do still download and install updates frequently. It does not block access to the security updates that I get. I was just wondering if there is a foolproof way to keep it from loading up every time the computer starts. It is just the original screen asking if I want to install it, and I just hit cancel and it is gone, until I restart the computer. I haven't really worked in the file system for a long time, so the rustiness is very apparent.
Here's some suggestions here:
http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Windows-Genuine-Advantage-Notifications

http://www.ehow.com/how_4800744_delete-genuine-warning-windows-xp.html

I haven't tried these..i don't know how well (or if) they really work
 
Well, I may have found a simple solution. Simply go into the task manager folder and disable the WGA program so it does not run at startup. Seems to have worked, no popup at three startups so far. I can still download and install updates, so, hopefully that will take care of it.

Mind you, I never let it install in the first place, as I have the automatic install feature disabled, so I have to pick and choose what to install.
 
I am the last person to defend Micro$oft but WGA doesn't seem to cause problems - unless one is running a bootleg copy of windoze XP or later.

And for those who are running bootleg windoze, there are easy cracks for WGA.

OGA is the equivalent thing for M$ Orifice and this causes more trouble IME because some old corporate versions of Orifice (which came with a new PC) get declared as invalid. Luckily, if you know about OGA, you can stop it being downloaded, permanently, very easily, by unchecking the OGA box in the windoze updates (and download/install M$ updates only manually). And one doesn't need it anyway since Orifice 2003 SP2 and SP4 are standalone .exe files which can simply be applied to the existing Orifice installation. In fact SP4 is too, but it requires something else installed which I didn't have so I didn't bother with it.

Much much bigger problems have been caused by the M$ $ervice packs. SP3 totally killed my Thinkpad x60s laptop which I use for all preflight planning. I called the M$ # for a dedicated SP3 disaster support line (thousands of PCs were wiped out by SP3, apparently) and after a few hours on the phone to a nice but useless rep had to give up, and restore an image backup from a year previously (Trueimage - my most trusted bit of software). Even so, the bluetooth radio never worked again... This is why I don't download M$ updates, except manually and only after doing an image backup. The updates are really required for the M$ Virus Magnet (Outlook) which can be avoided simply by using a different email program, for Internet Explorer (easy to avoid by using Firefox), and doing those 2 things sidesteps about 99% of the reasons for downloading any M$ updates.

What I didn't like recently was that the price of XP has roughly doubled recently, from £50 to £100 or so (Pro). M$ are obviously trying to finally force everybody to move to Win7, and to stop people downgrading Win7 laptops back to XP so they can continue to use them for real work, but I have just built a Win7 PC and had to ditch practically all older hardware that we had attached to the old XP one. Nice stuff like a Creative Extigy USB D-A converter for music playback, which was pricey...
 
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