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When dishes are in the dishwasher, are they presumed to be clean or dirty?

My view is they are dirty, and when the machine fills up the cycle is run and they all get put away to make room for the next dirty dishes which need to be cleaned.

Others presume that the dishes in the dishwasher are clean, and leave the dirty stuff in the sink or on the counter to wait for the clean stuff to get out of the way.

I will admit I sometimes get lazy about unloading, in which case many dishes get an EXTRA bath.

What say you?
 
If you open the dishwasher and it stinks they're dirty.
 
If the dishwasher is locked they're clean, if it's unlocked they're dirty.

Admittedly I only use mine a couple times a decade.
 
Your view is correct. I’m pretty OCD about dirty dishes - it takes no time at all to get them in the dishwasher.
 
If the dirty dishes in the dishwasher are so clean you can't tell whether or not you've run the dishwasher, you're doing it wrong.
 
My dishwasher has an annunciator light that indicates whether or not its contents are clean.
 
Asking another way.

Should there ever be dirty dishes in the sink or on the counter because the dishes in the dishwasher are clean?

I think no.
 
Our dishwasher has a light when the dishes are clean. It goes out the first time the door is open. We play dishwasher chicken at our house because when the light goes out the dishes have to be put away. So whomever opens the door does the dishes.
 
Ravioli said:
I think no.
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Again, I agree. Although I *try* to make an exception for my significant other - she gets just a few days off every couple of months, and works long days. So when I get home from a 3 day trip and there are dishes in the sink, I swallow my annoyance and deal with it. ;)
 
Who dishes dishes?

500 Red solos cups from Costco...$9.00

Not washing 500 glasses...priceless (well, actually $9)
 
I made a little 3d-printed stand-up sign for the counter top. CLEAN on one side, DIRTY on the other.
 
DaleB said:
I made a little 3d-printed stand-up sign for the counter top. CLEAN on one side, DIRTY on the other.
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I'm probably telling my age, but it seems like I remember a little magnet that had DIRTY on one side, and CLEAN on the other. Once you start the machine, flip it to the CLEAN side. Obviously, if the machine is still running . . .

Anyway, personally I prefer to wash dishes by hand, but MY opinion is that when dishes are clean, they belong in the cabinet.
 
It used to be, when the dishwasher was closed, they were cleaned (or getting cleaned), but the dishwasher that came with my current house has a unique design feature. It lets off a double beep, every 10 minutes (exactly) after the load is done. It does not relent with the beeping (every 10 minutes), ever, until you open it. The first night this happened (I started the load before I went to bed) it kept me up all night. I couldn't find the beep. It would go beep beep and then nothing for 10 minutes. I knew it was down stairs, but that was it. My first thought was that it was the refrigerator left open, then the oven left on, etc., but I did find it. Anyway, now I just have to clear it pretty quickly.
 
Ravioli said:
Asking another way.

Should there ever be dirty dishes in the sink or on the counter because the dishes in the dishwasher are clean?

I think no.
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What about stuff that’s too big to fit in the dishwasher? What if the dishwasher is running a cycle and there’s a dirty dish?
 
All I know is if what I need isn’t in the cupboard, I get it from the dishwasher. If it looks clean I use it. If it doesn’t, I give it a quick wipe in the sink.
 
kc4wsd said:
MY opinion is that when dishes are clean, they belong in the cabinet.
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Yeah... the big stainless steel one that says "LG" on it and has those convenient pull-out racks.
 
My dirty dishes are in the sink, until they migrate to the dishwasher. After I run the dishwasher about a week later, I put them away.
 
John221us said:
It used to be, when the dishwasher was closed, they were cleaned (or getting cleaned), but the dishwasher that came with my current house has a unique design feature. It lets off a double beep, every 10 minutes (exactly) after the load is done. It does not relent with the beeping (every 10 minutes), ever, until you open it. The first night this happened (I started the load before I went to bed) it kept me up all night. I couldn't find the beep. It would go beep beep and then nothing for 10 minutes. I knew it was down stairs, but that was it. My first thought was that it was the refrigerator left open, then the oven left on, etc., but I did find it. Anyway, now I just have to clear it pretty quickly.
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I would get my gun and shoot a dishwasher that did that. I had that happen to me with a smoke alarm that had a low battery. It beeped all night and continued beeping even after I had ripped it out of the ceiling. It turned out there was another smoke alarm hidden on a wall behind a door right next to that ceiling one and that was the one beeping. I hate things that beep.
 
Rushie said:
I would get my gun and shoot a dishwasher that did that. I had that happen to me with a smoke alarm that had a low battery. It beeped all night and continued beeping even after I had ripped it out of the ceiling. It turned out there was another smoke alarm hidden on a wall behind a door right next to that ceiling one and that was the one beeping. I hate things that beep.
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Quality German engineering (Bosch). Someone had their thinking cap on :roll eyes:
 
John221us said:
It used to be, when the dishwasher was closed, they were cleaned (or getting cleaned), but the dishwasher that came with my current house has a unique design feature. It lets off a double beep, every 10 minutes (exactly) after the load is done. It does not relent with the beeping (every 10 minutes), ever, until you open it.
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I'd be locating and deactivating the beeper. We had a Bosch for 15 years... it cost 2 or 3 times what the plastic GEs did, but lasted 4 times as long. It never made noise when it was finished, though. Second quietest dishwasher we have ever owned.

When it fried its innards one day, we planned to buy another Bosch. After looking at everything we decided on LG instead. The Bosch just didn't seem anywhere near the quality of the one we were replacing. The LG is really, really quiet. GoldStar has come a long way from blinky disco LED boom boxes sold in Korean corner stores.
 
DaleB said:
I'd be locating and deactivating the beeper. We had a Bosch for 15 years... it cost 2 or 3 times what the plastic GEs did, but lasted 4 times as long. It never made noise when it was finished, though. Second quietest dishwasher we have ever owned.

When it fried its innards one day, we planned to buy another Bosch. After looking at everything we decided on LG instead. The Bosch just didn't seem anywhere near the quality of the one we were replacing. The LG is really, really quiet. GoldStar has come a long way from blinky disco LED boom boxes sold in Korean corner stores.
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I considered disconnecting the speaker (pretty much the solution if you Google it) and still may. You have to wonder about the design decision on this one.
 
Ravioli said:
Okay...

I will admit I sometimes get lazy about unloading, in which case many dishes get an EXTRA bath.

What say you?
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I tried to convince my wife to allow me to "engineer" her kitchen. It would have had two big dishwashers and none of the useless cabinetry for holding plates, cups and glasses. Use dishes out of the clean one, load into the other one. When full...rinse, reverse and repeat. Solves the complete waste of time unloading the dishwasher into the cupboards problem once and for all.

She didn't go for it. :confused:
 
Dishes are dirty unless the dishwasher has run and nobody has opened the door yet and is displaying CLEAN. My rule is if you take one thing out of it after the cycle, you put it all away.
I have a problem with my wife on that one. It's the one time I'm more fastidious about housework than she.
 
John221us said:
Quality German engineering (Bosch). Someone had their thinking cap on :roll eyes:
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Mine is a Bosch and it doesn't beep. I bought mine just two years ago. They must have realized their error and corrected it. I strongly suspect that the people who design household appliances don't actually use them in a test phase. They just make stuff up and start selling it to the public.

I have a coffee grinder that has a clear plastic cap on the bean hopper. It's invisible. Twice I have poured beans into it only to have them roll all over the floor. It now has two strips of blue electrical tape on it. The same grinder has a bin of plastic so that after grinding the grounds hold a static charge. I have to use a metal spoon to stir them while grounding myself to discharge the static or the grounds will fly all over the room when I try to pour them into my filter. A metal bin would have solved that but I honestly believe they either didn't figure out that that problem existed or did but didn't care because plastic is cheaper than metal. But the whole grinder housing is metal, it's not a cheap grinder otherwise. I just have to believe nobody took it home and used it in real life before they put it on the market.
 
We have a little sand up paper sign that simply says "clean". When the dishwasher is turned on the "clean" sign gets put out. it stays out until the dishwasher is empty.

I know, technologically backwards. Works fine, too.
 
I'm not even sure why we have a dishwasher. The dishes have to be clean enough that they are clean, when they go in the dishwasher.
 
Shawn said:
Who dishes dishes?

500 Red solos cups from Costco...$9.00

Not washing 500 glasses...priceless (well, actually $9)
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Amen to that! I keep a stock of Solo cups in the cabinets for just that reason, and hardly ever reach for a real glass when I can grab a disposable Solo cup that I never need wash. Just throw that sucker in the recycling bin when done.
 
GRG55 said:
I tried to convince my wife to allow me to "engineer" her kitchen. It would have had two big dishwashers and none of the useless cabinetry for holding plates, cups and glasses. Use dishes out of the clean one, load into the other one. When full...rinse, reverse and repeat. Solves the complete waste of time unloading the dishwasher into the cupboards problem once and for all.

She didn't go for it. :confused:
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Bloody brilliant. I could have saved $10K on our kitchen remodel if I'd thought of that.
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Gotta have that.
 
Rule in our house is that whenever the dishwasher gets unloaded, first thing that gets loaded is detergent. If the detergent door is closed, the dishes are dirty.
 
GRG55 said:
I tried to convince my wife to allow me to "engineer" her kitchen. It would have had two big dishwashers and none of the useless cabinetry for holding plates, cups and glasses. Use dishes out of the clean one, load into the other one. When full...rinse, reverse and repeat. Solves the complete waste of time unloading the dishwasher into the cupboards problem once and for all.

She didn't go for it. :confused:
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Sounds like a compromise would have worked. These are quite trendy...

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asicer said:
Sounds like a compromise would have worked. These are quite trendy...
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There's no compromise in our household. She gets whatever she wants.

I have to console myself with an airplane. :)
 
LoneAspen said:
Amen to that! I keep a stock of Solo cups in the cabinets for just that reason, and hardly ever reach for a real glass when I can grab a disposable Solo cup that I never need wash. Just throw that sucker in the recycling bin when done.
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Except my wife will wash the plastic cups for me to use again....

Then after a few uses she will box them up and send them to her mother in the Philippines....
 
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