[NA] Any idea what these ships are? [NA]

I dunno how you were allowed to take those pictures.

Do you have a clearance?

Did you cross state lines?

The men will be by to take you to Gitmo. :rolleyes:

Consider that even having a crude sketch of an SUV is grounds for detention.
 
Whaling ships?







:D
 
I've heard that the angled superstructure on the first image is to deflect radar (stealth). Stealth for the navy is different from the air force since there is some clutter from the water (waves)- they just need to hide in the clutter. Hiding the hull or sonar will work only until the first set of pings from a decent sub- you can create an image from sound, but you might as well make the adversary work for the information.
 
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Teller1900 said:
The wife and I were walking around downtown Norfolk last weekend, and I spotted these two Navy ships in dry dock...just curious if anyone know what they are?

http://picasaweb.google.com/matt.teller/DowntownNorfolk#5255183096343734818

http://picasaweb.google.com/matt.teller/DowntownNorfolk#5255183101971327010
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Not sure exactly, it's one of the new reduced radar return models, from the size I'd guess a Frigate or maybe an amphibious troop ship that they use to deliver the LCACs.
 
Henning said:
Not sure exactly, it's one of the new reduced radar return models, from the size I'd guess a Frigate or maybe an amphibious troop ship that they use to deliver the LCACs.
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LCACs are being replaced with next generation -- SSC (Ship to Shore Connector).

Most likely a FFG.
 
mikea said:
I dunno how you were allowed to take those pictures.

Do you have a clearance?

Did you cross state lines?

The men will be by to take you to Gitmo. :rolleyes:

Consider that even having a crude sketch of an SUV is grounds for detention.
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Haha. I was standing on the water taxi pier in the middle of downtown Norfolk, anyone that flies, drives, sails, bikes, or otherwise transports themself through down down can get the same view I did. No state lines were crossed (at least not in the last week), so it would only be an intrastate crime.

Anthony said:
Whaling ships?
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Them some scary, scary whales out there! :D

smigaldi said:
I am not sure about the other picture, it is at an angle that makes it hard to ID the ship.
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Good eye on the first one! I'll see if I can't get a better angle on the second. For as much of the first ship is covered, the second one is even more under wraps. It looks more like a building under construction with all the scaffolding and T-cranes (or whatever they're called) around it than a ship.
 
#1 is definitely an LPD.

#2 has a superstructure that is way too big for an FFG. It has the appearance of a Tico-class CG, although that stuff on the foredeck is a bit strange. I'll go with a later-stage Tico. Maybe the stuff under wraps has to do with the Ballistic Missile Defense package they added to a couple of the last of the class (Lake Erie, and I think Port Royal?)?
 
smigaldi said:
Well this picture, http://picasaweb.google.com/matt.teller/DowntownNorfolk#5255183096343734818

Is of the USS Mesa Verde a LPD.
http://www.mesa-verde.navy.mil/site pages/facts.aspx

I am not sure about the other picture, it is at an angle that makes it hard to ID the ship.
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jshawley said:
Arrrrgh! It be the USS Mesa Verde, LPD 19 (yeah, I know it ain't "Talk Like a Pirate Day, but...;)).

for more info, go to: http://www.mesa-verde.navy.mil/default.aspx
Hope that helps.
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Yeah I said that already
 
john smith said:
Canvas is being used to hide the hull features/shape and sonar dome.
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Not really, anymore, there's nothing particular to hide. They still hide submarine props, but I don't know why, the design has already been sold. The covering is most likely to keep crap like paint chips and such from blowing in the water. It's now typical to tarp any vessel. Even the US Navy has to play by the rules on this stuff. If they break the rules and pollute in such a public venue, it looks bad on their Commander in Chief, and s-t runs downhill from there.
 
john smith said:
Canvas is being used to hide the hull features/shape and sonar dome.
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Sonar domes would be under water and much of that canvas is above the water. Line possible I think it more likely that the canvas is there to help stop all the sand from the sand blasting from getting everywhere. It looks like they are doing some painting if you ask me.
 
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smigaldi said:
Sonar domes would be under water and much of that canvas is above the water. Line possible I think it more likely that the canvas is there to help stop all the sand form the sand blasting from getting everywhere. It looks like they are doing some painting if you ask me.
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I'll often see them in drydock with the bow fully exposed. Seeing the "sonar dome" from the outside gives nothing away. The shape has nothing to do with the sonar and is in synch with hydrodynamics which is all common and free information in the Naval Architecture community.
 
If I remember correctly, the hull number on the ship in the second link is 44. (I work next to the water taxi pier mentioned, so I get to see a new ship every now and then...)
 
Finster said:
If I remember correctly, the hull number on the ship in the second link is 44. (I work next to the water taxi pier mentioned, so I get to see a new ship every now and then...)
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If that is the case it would be the USS Gunston Hall LSD 44

Looking at pictures of the Gunston hall the super structure does appear to match
http://macsnavylinks.ca/maccdale/ghall.jpg

and

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The ships are the USS Mesa Verde a LPD and the USS Gunston Hall a LDS

See the above posts for the background on each ship.

Neither is an Aegis cruiser.
 
Finster said:
If I remember correctly, the hull number on the ship in the second link is 44. (I work next to the water taxi pier mentioned, so I get to see a new ship every now and then...)
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Hey hey, a local! That's a hell of a view to have from your office!
 
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