N/A Not Quite Bending New Metal . . . . .

Eh, it's an old fiberglass Pearson. If it had been a Souwester '54, that'd have been a crime.

As it is, just another bungler from Connecticut.

It's amazing there is ZERO requirement for training. Most of the Ct and NY "sailors" can't even describe the three anchor setup used for mooring in the very tidal esutaries (TEN foot tides).

Most don't carry more than 100 feet of 1/2" New England braid and at most TWO anchors.....most just have a single shovel.

Sigh.
 
Quite out of my thread, but:

The dealer was Paul's Marina. His son was a pilot for the Presidential Helicopter. One assignment he had was to pick up a general at the Pentagon. The preflight was running a bit slow, so he informed appropriate parties that the ETA would be a bit delayed.

Preflight finished, the ship was aloft and en route to the Pentagon. During the flight the crew was advised to "Divert to Xxxxxxx; there's been an incident." There were no other details.

When John landed at the diversion point the crew learned that the World Trade Center had been destroyed by high-jacked airliners. Had the helo continued to the Pentagon its landing spot would have had it sitting right in the trajectory of the airliner which crashed into the Pentagon.

HR
 
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bbchien said:
As it is, just another bungler from Connecticut.
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"Piloting, Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling", by Charles F. Chapman.

My Dad took his Power Squadron course from ... Charles F. Chapman. It's about like training for your PP-ASEL from Ron Levy.... you actually learn something.

From that lofty vantage point, my Dad was convinced that the "bunglers" came from Long Island, although if the truth is told, they are everywhere.

In the pre-radar, pre-gps, pre-loran days (at least for small boat sailors) we were out in Block Island Sound, heading for Block Island. Visibility 1/2 to 3/4 miles in haze, running a DR course compensated for currents and following the bottom contours with our high tech depth finder. A go-fast boat comes out of the haze at 30kts and tears by disappearing in the haze. 5 minutes later, it comes back and tears off in a different direction. Another 5, and it tears up to us slows down and hollers over:

"Which way to Block Island?"

"Do you have a chart?"

"No."

"Do you have a compass?"

"Yes"

"Steer 020"

... and the boat roars off into the mist.

We later found out that the boat ran aground on the Rhode Island beach, fortunately injuring nobody. My Dad steered him to the beach. Figured that they guy had an uncompensated compass without a deviation card, and that the chances of him hitting Block Island were small, but just maybe by the time he got to the Rhode Island shoreline, he might have wised up. And with the prevailing viz, he ought to be able to stop in time.

Turns out "not!" He was definitely not keeping a lookout!

And yes, the home port was on the south shore of LI.

-Skip
 
Now, only to keep this thread somewhat aviation-related, it was a nice day yesterday in Owls Head which, to Teller1900 speaks KRKD. Anybody for a bit of a classic airplane?
British Tiger Moth.

HR
 

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Skip Miller said:
"Piloting, Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling", by Charles F. Chapman.

My Dad took his Power Squadron course from ... Charles F. Chapman. It's about like training for your PP-ASEL from Ron Levy.... you actually learn something. -Skip
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TangoWhiskey said:
Thanks, Skip... found a used hardbound copy in "Very Good" condition from a bookseller in Maine... for $1.99 on Amazon.com. ORDERED!!
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Got it in the mail today! Very nice addition to the library; thanks for the recommendation, Skip. The book was in great condition, no names or writing in it, no bent or discolored pages.
 
TangoWhiskey said:
Got it in the mail today! Very nice addition to the library; thanks for the recommendation, Skip. The book was in great condition, no names or writing in it, no bent or discolored pages.
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You are very welcome. When was your copy published?

-Skip
 
Skip Miller said:
"Which way to Block Island?"

"Do you have a chart?"

"No."

"Do you have a compass?"

"Yes"

"Steer 020"

... and the boat roars off into the mist.

We later found out that the boat ran aground on the Rhode Island beach, fortunately injuring nobody. My Dad steered him to the beach. Figured that they guy had an uncompensated compass without a deviation card, and that the chances of him hitting Block Island were small, but just maybe by the time he got to the Rhode Island shoreline, he might have wised up. And with the prevailing viz, he ought to be able to stop in time.

Turns out "not!" He was definitely not keeping a lookout!

And yes, the home port was on the south shore of LI.

-Skip
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Prolly save the guy's life. Like the three football players in the gulf recently, fishing, stuck their anchor and tried to drive off of it.

Maroons.
 
Lawreston said:
Now, only to keep this thread somewhat aviation-related, it was a nice day yesterday in Owls Head which, to Teller1900 speaks KRKD. Anybody for a bit of a classic airplane?
British Tiger Moth.

HR
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It's not already time for the fly-in at the museum, is it??
 
bbchien said:
Eh, it's an old fiberglass Pearson. If it had been a Souwester '54, that'd have been a crime.

As it is, just another bungler from Connecticut.

It's amazing there is ZERO requirement for training. Most of the Ct and NY "sailors" can't even describe the three anchor setup used for mooring in the very tidal esutaries (TEN foot tides).

Most don't carry more than 100 feet of 1/2" New England braid and at most TWO anchors.....most just have a single shovel.

Sigh.
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Two items:

1) My uncle's family has a home right on the Eastern Way, heading out from the Harbors into the Gulf of Maine. Hinckley Yachts does sea trials and demos for new customers here. The "doctor killer" of the boat world is the Hinckley 42' Jetboat -- I've seen more people from the Bowditch (yes, THAT Bowditch -- my uncle was his namesake!) deck trying to do "bat" turns at 35 knots that I want to puke in my shoes. I can't tell you how many maroons come past the last channel marker at full throttle, 250' from the float, and use the "quick stop" jet position to slow down in time, all the time wondering why the float is moving 2' in either direction as they try and dock.

2) My FIL was a caretaker for a NY based family. They had a twin 200 Whaler CC, loaded with GPS, moving map, flux compass, VHF/SSB (who the hell needs a SSB in a 20' CC is beyond me), and radar -- 1.5 miles, direct 176 from the harbor -- and the daughter who drove it got lost *regularly*. Had the CG come out and fetch her once; she was about 100 yards from her mooring (which means she was 150 from the shoreline).

Sigh.
 
Geico266 said:
Looks like Slappy was sailing again. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Wasn't me... Wrong part of the country, and my boat's still on the hard -- though she is a Pearson.

Pretty hard to run aground in this neck of the woods, though I suppose it's doable... Last year a relatively nasty fog layer rolled in, and a key-turner got into a little trouble. The conversation between him and the CPD Marine Unit was relatively amusing, if for no other reason than he couldn't report his position any more accurately than being "on the sand, like." (That's a direct quote.)

CPD: "What is your current position?"
Throttle Jockey: "I'm... I'm... I'm on the sand, like."
CPD: "Sir, where are you exactly?"
Gas Burner: "I'm... on the sand... like."
CPD: "Uh... Sir, are you north or south of Navy Pier?"
Captain Maroon: "Uh... Um... Stand by... <30 seconds of silence>... I'm on the sand, like."

Never did figure out where he was. Doubt he did either. :dunno:
 
I have Chapman's but not Royce's book. I will have to add that one to the library!
 
tdager said:
I have Chapman's but not Royce's book. I will have to add that one to the library!
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It's good stuff... Maybe a little disjointed and not the best-organized, but it's a must for any rag bagger. ;)
 
"Rag bagger" porn: Sou'wester 70 returning from pre-delivery sea trials:

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Taken from the Island this past summer... I was working from home, and saw this boat 4 or 5 times a day.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
astanley said:
"Rag bagger" porn: Sou'wester 70 returning from pre-delivery sea trials:

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Taken from the Island this past summer... I was working from home, and saw this boat 4 or 5 times a day.

Cheers,

-Andrew
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Ohhhhh baby... <drool>

Lessee... Brand new Sou'wester 70... Hmm... Lemme just go to the ATM... :rolleyes:


:D
 
astanley said:
2) My FIL was a caretaker for a NY based family. They had a twin 200 Whaler CC, loaded with GPS, moving map, flux compass, VHF/SSB (who the hell needs a SSB in a 20' CC is beyond me), and radar -- 1.5 miles, direct 176 from the harbor -- and the daughter who drove it got lost *regularly*. Had the CG come out and fetch her once; she was about 100 yards from her mooring (which means she was 150 from the shoreline).

Sigh.
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Well thats probably why they had a Whaler. Its almost indestructable. My goal is to fly MY plane to MY Sailboat. For now I have to fly a rental to my Sunfish moored to my MIL's dock on the Metedeconk. Ahhhh summmer:smile:
 
I'm thinking that only Adam Stanley and Dr. Bruce(on this forum) may be familiar with the layout of Inner Bass Harbor, Maine. For those not familiar it's a little harbor to port and in a bit from -- and on this side of -- Bass Harbor Head Lighthouse while en route to Bar Harbor. When I I had my 30' Luders-design sloop, girlfriend and I were headed for Bar Harbor. We saw I-B-H on the chart, so "Let's tie-up in there for the night."

We had been told, "It's tricky going in there. You'll need to do some "S"-turns in and around the lobster buoys or you wind up on some shoals." The little Atomic diesel propelled us in, and around the referenced buoys; we saw an empty berth among a fleet of Hinckleys. We docked and secured and I went looking for an attendant to pay whatever, but was unsuccessful.

The next day I located an in-charge person and told him I'd not been able to find anyone, previously.

"Yup; saw ya come in; ya did good comin' in 'round them pot buoys. Figgered ya wouldn't be goin' anywhere in the dahk, so I didn't worry 'bout ya." It seems that our night's layover spot wasn't a public marina; rather, it was owned by Hinckley, and was pretty much reserved for the sailors who would be in Hinckley's charter boats.

The man went on to tell us about four or five guys who came into the harbor. Under full sail in a 40 footer, "They were hootin' and hollerin', probably pretty much loaded. Suddenly, not following the curves around the lobster buoys, they were aground on a shoal. The tide was out far enough so they waded to shore. Next day, the boat floated free on the high tide and they were in better shape than when they arrived."

HR
 
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AdamZ said:
Well thats probably why they had a Whaler. Its almost indestructable. My goal is to fly MY plane to MY Sailboat. For now I have to fly a rental to my Sunfish moored to my MIL's dock on the Metedeconk. Ahhhh summmer:smile:
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That's one hell of a dream, Adam. Love it.

There has been a beautiful 60' double master for sale, for a while now... I seriously have a problem with that boat; I want to blow every cent I have and borrow every cent needed to own it.

If it floats, flies.... ahhh, never mind.

Cheers,

-Andrew
 
ReverendSlappy said:
Wasn't me... Wrong part of the country, and my boat's still on the hard -- though she is a Pearson.

Pretty hard to run aground in this neck of the woods, though I suppose it's doable... Last year a relatively nasty fog layer rolled in, and a key-turner got into a little trouble. The conversation between him and the CPD Marine Unit was relatively amusing, if for no other reason than he couldn't report his position any more accurately than being "on the sand, like." (That's a direct quote.)

CPD: "What is your current position?"
Throttle Jockey: "I'm... I'm... I'm on the sand, like."
CPD: "Sir, where are you exactly?"
Gas Burner: "I'm... on the sand... like."
CPD: "Uh... Sir, are you north or south of Navy Pier?"
Captain Maroon: "Uh... Um... Stand by... <30 seconds of silence>... I'm on the sand, like."

Never did figure out where he was. Doubt he did either. :dunno:
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Oh, yea.

The Jet Ski crowd is good for getting lost. I've had them pull along side and ask for directions...

As long as we are posting boat pictures - one from Saturday.
 

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Oh, yea.

The Jet Ski crowd is good for getting lost. I've had them pull along side and ask for directions...
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Indeed. Just last weekend I was on my boss's boat (he's a conscientious diesel-burner), coming into the Chicago River Lock from the Lake side and we had an "encounter" with one. The lock through was complete, the horn sounded, so my boss got under way, only to have a little Sea-Doo sport boat pop out from behind the wall, directly in front of us... Despite the fact that there's a traffic-light, same as on the road, that was clearly red. Earned Captain Maroon a healthy, ear-ringing blast from the air horns and a loudhailer scolding from the lock operator. Typical Friday afternoon.

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As long as we are posting boat pictures - one from Saturday.
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Lovely!

My boat goes in the water tonight... we should be on the Lake on Saturday. I'm chomping at the bit!
 
I think they were just giving the Tiger Moth some exercise the day I took the photo.
It was classic Car Weekend, recently.

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Andrew -- and Adam: Take your pick of these two; choose your style. I took the shots, yesterday.

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Adam I too want to be able to fly my plane to our "summer" house in Florida so we can go sailing on our sailboat.

Man what a dream! :)
 
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