My employer is asking employees to live in camp for four weeks

Stewartb said:
Such valor. It sucks to have rules for a job, I guess. You think these days are easy for the company? I bet not.
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I think the rules are way out of line and appear to me to be 100% for the benefit of the company. They are not doing this because they care about the people. It is all about keeping production going.
 
AKBill said:
edit: the wife thinks I should stay home. I can't do that I need to make a living for the family and pay bills
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AKBill said:
Got cash reserves for 10 years so it may a bit before I get back to you...:)
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These two statements seem to contradict one another. That said, sorry you're on the hot seat to make a choice that is unpalatable either way.
 
Bill Jennings said:
These two statements seem to contradict one another. That said, sorry you're on the hot seat to make a choice that is unpalatable either way.
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I understand it. Nobody wants to dip into their cash reserves to pay bills. Once you pull money out of the bank it’s a lot harder to put it back in.
 
Morgan3820 said:
I understand it. Nobody wants to dip into their cash reserves to pay bills. Once you pull money out of the bank it’s a lot harder to put it back in.
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I get it too, but if you're 62 and have at least 10 years cash reserve, why not just go missed and call it a career?
 
Bill, My perspective is one of being the employer. I'm trying to find ways to keep my staff employed with a big reduction in business and trying conditions. Our doors are locked but the phones are on. They aren't ringing. Employers are trying to figure out how to keep revenue flowing and people working with the hope that this is a short term problem. We want to be ready for the rebound of the economy. Good people have been hard to find for the past year. Once things return to normal it'll be worse. Do what you want but be mindful that your employer is in a tough spot. And I'll bet there are lots of guys who'll take your job right now so you aren't in a position of strength. Best wishes. Stay healthy.
 
flhrci said:
I figured anything more than a cabin without power/running water would be nice for you Alaskan types. Seems like you all want deluxe hotels and luxury living for some reason. LOL Gettin' old? :D
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I did the 4 guys sleeping in a 8X10 room that the company rented to us for only 400 bucks a month per person. I have slept in a hangar with only a wood stove for heat. I have lived in a dorm type room without electricity and water and the outhouse 200 feet away. And real outhouses don't have walls. Plus have wood seats. Get a splinter and you really find out who your friends are....

Yes, I will take my creature comforts, even in the bush... :lol::lol:
 
Stewartb said:
Bill, My perspective is one of being the employer. I'm trying to find ways to keep my staff employed with a big reduction in business and trying conditions. Our doors are locked but the phones are on. They aren't ringing. Employers are trying to figure out how to keep revenue flowing and people working with the hope that this is a short term problem. We want to be ready for the rebound of the economy. Good people have been hard to find for the past year. Once things return to normal it'll be worse. Do what you want but be mindful that your employer is in a tough spot. And I'll bet there are lots of guys who'll take your job right now so you aren't in a position of strength. Best wishes. Stay healthy.
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Understood, I hope everyone walks away from this tragedy without loosing their life savings. Thank you for your comments. Boat leaves 5pm, so far I'll be on it...:(
 
If the employer is paying the hotel fee for 2 weeks it's costing them money they aren't used to spending. Given that the AK Governor just mandated anyone traveling into the state to serve a 14 day quarantine Bill's company had to make provisions for it's staff. That's adapting to the conditions, not making harsh demands on the workers to line the company's pockets. These are strange times. At least some of us have the opportunity to continue working. I know lots of folks that don't, and they're worried. The bills keep on coming. And that applies to companies as well as individuals. We're all trying to figure this out as best we can.
 
Morgan3820 said:
So then you agree with my statement.
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Your comment seemed to be a complaint. That you feel its unreasonable that a company has a rule that is 100% for their benefit. I was simply pointing that its pretty common for companies to do that.
 
Juliet Hotel said:
Your comment seemed to be a complaint. That you feel its unreasonable that a company has a rule that is 100% for their benefit. I was simply pointing that its pretty common for companies to do that.
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No I agree it is common. Still doesn’t make it right or fair.
 
AKBill said:
Understood, I hope everyone walks away from this tragedy without loosing their life savings. Thank you for your comments. Boat leaves 5pm, so far I'll be on it...:(
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Keep us informed when you can.!!
 
well 12 1/2 hour days, camp food is good, the beds are not to my liking one bit. Internet is spotty. 6 foot separation rule, even on the bus up to the mine only 11 per bus. We take 6 buses up 7 min apart. It's not spring here 13F last night 21 tomorrow...:(
 
AKBill said:
well 12 1/2 hour days, camp food is good, the beds are not to my liking one bit. Internet is spotty. 6 foot separation rule, even on the bus up to the mine only 11 per bus. We take 6 buses up 7 min apart. It's not spring here 13F last night 21 tomorrow...:(
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Sounds kinda rough.
 
I just had a shop meeting for my employees here in Anchorage. I reinforced the 6 foot space rule. That's just respect for others, plain and simple. My bookkeeper returned from a trip last Tuesday and wants to come to work. I told her to stay away for another week. I'd like here here but I won't compromise the safety of others.
 
Well I've missed a lot of good flying weather the past few weeks. Working long hours, one more week before I get to go home. Sad thing is I get 2 weeks at home them have to go into quarantine for 2 weeks than back to work for 4 weeks. 6 weeks away from home, this is going to get old real quick.

Couple pics showing a camp building, my "office" underground and some equipment i was working on.
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AKBill said:
Couple pics showing a camp building,
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I recognize that red building. Flown up Hawk inlet more than a few times. Admiralty Island (where the mine is) is one of the best places for brown bear sightings as it has one of the densest Grizzly populations in North America. Also an extremely scenic island to fly over and around. PIcture is just south of the mine over the center of the island. I'm Southbound with the mine off my right wing. admiralty.jpg
 
^^^ gorgeous!
 
Morgan3820 said:
So are Type A blood types. Let’s not hire them.
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Obviously, one can control some factors, and not others. I certainly have no immunity to lung cancer; both of my parents died from it. Not pretty.
 
Htaylor said:
I recognize that red building. Flown up Hawk inlet more than a few times. Admiralty Island (where the mine is) is one of the best places for brown bear sightings as it has one of the densest Grizzly populations in North America. Also an extremely scenic island to fly over and around. PIcture is just south of the mine over the center of the island. I'm Southbound with the mine off my right wing. View attachment 84710
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You must be flying for Ward. Everyone at Ward Air are very nice and help out the GA folks when they can..:thumbsup:
 
Well finally made it home after 28 days in camp and 350 hours worked. I'm beat gong to take a day or so for me to catch up on sleep and rest up. Weather not real good for flying, I guess I'll start with some pattern work

I get 2 weeks off then quarantine for 2 weeks then back to the island for another 28 day rotation. That's my schedule until July
 
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Maybe you should move to Kotzebue. I noticed that as a few days ago there are no cases of the virus there.


So far.




Hang in there, we are all in this together...
 
Zeldman said:
Maybe you should move to Kotzebue. I noticed that as a few days ago there are no cases of the virus there.


So far.




Hang in there, we are all in this together...
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Kotzebue sounds good, but....... That would mean I would have to stay in camp when I work.. Living in Juneau let's me sleep in my own bed, with out having to get dressed in the middle of the night to hit the head at the end of the 10x24 foot shipping container converted into a room...:lol::lol: :mad2::mad2:

The folks that run the camp are very nice. Good food, keep the place very clean, change the sheets on the bed every week. But it is camp. There are several buildings that house everyone.

You have the Grand that is the newest building, very nice 2 beds. One for the day shift worker and one for the night shift worker.

Then you have the Hilton same as the Grand but the walls are not as noise dampened and the rooms are smaller

Then you have Tin can alley shipping containers made into rooms with bunk beds for temporary folks or overflow folks like me
 
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AKBill said:
You must be flying for Ward. Everyone at Ward Air are very nice and help out the GA folks when they can..:thumbsup:
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Everyone at Ward is great, including the D.O. whom I know quite well. But I fly the PC12 at Seaplanes when the economy is normal. 7 years on Caravans before that for Seaplanes and Wings of Alaska. No summer visitors, no flying around Juneau so far this year.

I used to walk back and forth between the Wings hangar and the terminal. I watched you take that Musketeer apart little by little everyday as I'd walk by.
 
AKBill said:
Kotzebue sounds good, but....... That would mean I would have to stay in camp when I work.. Living in Juneau let's me sleep in my own bed, with out having to get dressed in the middle of the night to hit the head at the end of the 10x24 foot shipping container converted into a room...:lol::lol: :mad2::mad2:

The folks that run the camp are very nice. Good food, keep the place very clean, change the sheets on the bed every week. But it is camp. There are several buildings that house everyone.

You have the Grand that is the newest building, very nice 2 beds. One for the day shift worker and one for the night shift worker.

Then you have the Hilton same as the Grand but the walls are not as noise dampened and the rooms are smaller

Then you have Tin can alley shipping containers made into rooms with bunk beds for temporary folks or overflow folks like me
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I spent three months in an ATCO building in Deadhorse. Fortunately during the summer weeks.

They were set up for two people, but I was fortunate to be by myself. The bathroom and showers were in another ATCO building.
 
Htaylor said:
Everyone at Ward is great, including the D.O. whom I know quite well. But I fly the PC12 at Seaplanes when the economy is normal. 7 years on Caravans before that for Seaplanes and Wings of Alaska. No summer visitors, no flying around Juneau so far this year.

I used to walk back and forth between the Wings hangar and the terminal. I watched you take that Musketeer apart little by little everyday as I'd walk by.
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Yah that took longer than expected. 3 months said and done from the purchase. But I did leave town for a couple of weeks during disassembly.

Sold enough parts to be in black on the deal. Still have wings, ailerons and flaps as far as spare parts for the Sport..:)
 
denverpilot said:
Glad you get a break for a bit, Bill.

Enjoy the weird outside world.
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Thanks, I've only been home for a day and I slept most of that day away. Have not ventured out yet. Today might include a trip to the hangar to organize and put up shelves, while sipping whiskey and beer..:)
 
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