Multi Instrument add-on PTS?

[dheista]

Hi all,

I've been searching high and low for this, and short of getting an answer from a DE (my instructor has emailed 3) - I'm hoping someone here might know:

I have ASEL and AMEL, with IFR privileges on my ASEL but VFR-only on my AMEL.

I've been doing a good bit of engine-out work towards AMEL Instrument add-on, but my instructor and I can't find a definitive answer about what the PTS requirements for a checkride will be. Anyone know what is off-limits for a DE to test for in an instrument add-on checkride for AMEL?

I presume they won't have me do an MCA demo, steep turns, or any of the basic stuff I did when demonstrating proficiency in my AMEL certificate, but wondering what the heck they CAN have me demonstrate (besides single engine approach, hold, enroute navigation and possibly a single-engine missed approach (although I doubt that?)

 

[DavidWhite]

Probably the same as a SEL IFR cert with a SE approach and landing.

 

[hook_dupin]

Have a look at the "additional rating desired" table at the front of the Instrument PTS.


The only one engine inoperative work I see in there is "One Engine Inoperative During Straight-and-Level Flight and Turns (Multiengine Airplane)" and "One Engine Inoperative—Instrument Approach (Multiengine Airplane)."

 

[Gucci Pilot]

Straight from the private PTS(you didn't specify which certificate so I assumed private):

Removal of the “Airplane Multiengine VFR Only” Limitation
The removal of the “Airplane Multiengine VFR Only” limitation, at the private pilot certificate level, requires an applicant to satisfactorily perform the following Area of Operation and Tasks from the private AMEL and AMES PTS in a multiengine airplane that has a manufacturer’s published VMC speed.
• Area of Operation XI: Multiengine Operations
o Task C: Engine Failure During Flight (By Reference to Instruments)
o Task D: Instrument Approach—One Engine Inoperative (By Reference to Instruments)

 

[Catalo]

I just took my asel, amel instrument
It was 3 approaches one single engine ils and unusual attitudes. Not difficult at all. The oral was just systems that would be different from single engine.

 

[frfly172]

I would guess ,you just fly the three approaches,since you have the MEL. With some oral.

 

[Rotarywing]

One approach with one engine "simulated shut down". Under the hood. Your choice of approach normally.

That should be it.

 

[Henning]

If you're just adding IFR, you're likely going to do a OEI approach and landing and be done. I just waited until I did my ME CPL ride to add the IR on my ME, but it was only a few weeks between my PPSEL IR an CPMEL rides. I only recall doing one approach under the hood.

 

[poadeleted20]

I would guess ,you just fly the three approaches,since you have the MEL. With some oral.

You'd guess wrong. See what Gucci Pilot posted above -- straight from the PTS: one engine failure under the hood and one simulated OEI instrument approach. Expect that approach to terminate with a simulated OEI landing. And that's it. No Vmc demos, no steep turns (not part of the IR PTS for ME anyway), no enroute navigation, no OEI missed approaches (which aren't part of the IR PTS for ME either), no u/a recoveries, no multiple approaches. Shouldn't take long at all -- take off, put on the hood, lose an engine, fly an approach with that engine out, remove the hood approaching DH/MDA, and land. The PTS doesn't specify precision/nonprecision, so either will do, and there's no requirement to do both.