Marine jets collide

No doubt budget cuts, lack of parts, reduced training, broken stuff... Etc will be part of the cause.
 
^^^ I've flown with two Hornet drivers recently, and neither had good things to say about the accident rate in the last few years. :(
 
When I was in the Corps, we didn't have all these mishaps. Now, it's seems they are monthly.
 
Keep cutting the budgets,and training times,you can expect more of the same.
 
R.I.P the 100 million dollars that just sank to the bottom.


Glad the occupants were rescued and are doing fine.
 
Unit74 said:
When I was in the Corps, we didn't have all these mishaps. Now, it's seems they are monthly.
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When were you in? The past two years the Marine Class A rate has been higher than usual. FY04 was the worst in a while, by a long shot. FY16 was about average for the Navy.

Nauga,
statistically
 
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Unit74 said:
97-09
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Then yeah, FY15 and FY16 were the highest per flight hour since 2004. Both years there were 8 Class A's (3.3 per 100K hours, average FY02-FY16 is ~2.6). FY04 was the worst in at least 15 years, with 18 total Class A's, or 5 per 100K flight hours.

Glad they got the guys out of these two.

Nauga,
and one you can walk (or swim) away from
 
Tacair training is an inherently high risk activity. Human error is the obvious causal factor in this one. Coulda been a crap admin join by a 25 hour wingman with 2 hours in the last 30 days or coulda been a training rule violation during 4x4 BFM with 8 2000 hour dudes. We just don't know right now.

Whether it can be walked back further to some of the things being talked about is going to be on the shoulders of the mishap board. The Navy and Marine Corps do not share the information from their aviation safety investigations.

The Fiscal Year is only one month and 9 days old and we've already had a Class A mishap (>$1,000,000 or loss of aircraft or death/permanent total disability) on EVERY airframe except for Harriers and Cobras.
 
NKTFlyer said:
...we've already had a Class A mishap [...] on EVERY airframe except for Harriers and Cobras.
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When Harriers and Cobras are your good option it's time to reassess. o_O

Nauga,
pogoing down in history
 
Oh. Didn't see you were going for an old reference. I was thinking more along lines if complicated as **** to fly and unforgiving because Harriet was mentioned.
 
I see no one has speculated, so here I go:

I speculate this accident happened because both aircraft tried to occupy the same piece of airspace at the same time.

Good to see that the pilots will recover and that no one was hurt on the ground.
 
Zeldman said:
I see no one has speculated, so here I go:

I speculate this accident happened because both aircraft tried to occupy the same piece of airspace at the same time.

Good to see that the pilots will recover and that no one was hurt on the ground.
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I speculate they were trying to communicate. You know, give them the finger.

 
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