Make DST permanent!

Would you prefer permanent Daylight Savings Time or Standard Time?

  • DST

    Votes: 44 52.4%

  • ST

    Votes: 25 29.8%

  • Keep both (status quo)

    Votes: 8 9.5%

  • Don't care (apathetic)

    Votes: 7 8.3%
  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .
Domenick

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Damn it! Seems like every year the idiots in congress talk about stopping the daylight/standard time insanity, and yet, here we are again, just weeks away from condemning ourselves to longer nights. And don't explain that we're not actually making nights longer. I get it. We all get it. The practical effect of standard time is a longer period of wakeful darkness.

Right now, I get up at around 6 am and get to bed around 10 pm. Today sunrise was at 7:38 am PDT and sunset is at 6:10 pm. That's about 10 hours 32 minutes of "daylight." Even if it takes me 90 minutes in the morning to breakfast, shower, and caffeine up, I get to experience the entire 10:32 of daylight. If we went to standard time tomorrow, sunrise would be around 6:38 am and sunset at 5:10 pm, shortening my useful daylight hours by an hour.

It's stupid and it sucks.
 
Why does Alaska do daylight savings time.??

I mean where I used to live we had summer days of 24 hour daylight.

Some parts had 4 or 5 hours of lighter night time in winter. The sun didn't come up, just the southern sky got lighter.

If global warming is caused by humans why is Mars going through global warming.??

Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway.??
 
yeah, I think my Florida government had it right with the Sunshine Protection Act...sadly it needs federal level approval

I do like the idea of DST better....
but honestly not a lot better. I just want the madness to end with the changing.. Just pick one.

I understand some theorize that standard is healthier...something about waking up to light and probably getting darker earlier promoting getting to sleep at a reasonable time.... makes sense if you're camping I suppose.

The whole thing is so completely idiotic.
 
Please set the clock to the wrong time all of the time so I can try to coerce people to get up earlier! Please no, but do stop changing it to the wrong time. If you want to get up an hour early, set your own damn alarm clock early and leave mine alone.
 
pmanton said:
Do what you wanna do. But leave us alone here in AZ.
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I’m here in AZ as well, but SS today is 5:48pm. It’d be nice if it stayed lighter longer.
 
Brad W said:
I understand some theorize that standard is healthier...something about waking up to light and probably getting darker earlier promoting getting to sleep at a reasonable time.... makes sense if you're camping I suppose.
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It in no way makes sense, and one is not better than the other for anything. Nobody is forced to get up at a certain time on the clock. If you want to shift your day for the sun, do it. If you want to get up earlier, or later, who cares what the number is, just do it. You could make sunset be 11pm and still go to bed at 12pm and “get to sleep at a reasonable time”.

I’m unaware of any laws what time on the clock dial you can go to bed or wake up.
 
The biggest deal would be just to convince employers to allow for flexibility of schedules
 
RyanShort1 said:
The biggest deal would be just to convince employers to allow for flexibility of schedules
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And letting people off at 4 o clock so they can make golf league. Around here sun sets after 9 in the summer
 
Let’s just split the difference between ST and DST.

Afghanistan has a local time of Z + 4:30 and that place seems to be working out well. Let’s try it here.
 
MichaelRuiz said:
How about NO time zones? Let’s all just go to Zulu time.. Our daily schedules can be negotiated locally..
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Given that the whole reason for time zones was to make train schedules easier - when was the last time you took a train to Chicago?
 
Domenick said:
Damn it! Seems like every year the idiots in congress talk about stopping the daylight/standard time insanity, and yet, here we are again, just weeks away from condemning ourselves to longer nights. And don't explain that we're not actually making nights longer. I get it. We all get it. The practical effect of standard time is a longer period of wakeful darkness.

Right now, I get up at around 6 am and get to bed around 10 pm. Today sunrise was at 7:38 am PDT and sunset is at 6:10 pm. That's about 10 hours 32 minutes of "daylight." Even if it takes me 90 minutes in the morning to breakfast, shower, and caffeine up, I get to experience the entire 10:32 of daylight. If we went to standard time tomorrow, sunrise would be around 6:38 am and sunset at 5:10 pm, shortening my useful daylight hours by an hour.

It's stupid and it sucks.
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I don't like either option. I like switching times every Fall and Spring.
 
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe said:
Given that the whole reason for time zones was to make train schedules easier - when was the last time you took a train to Chicago?
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Isn’t it interesting how an industry could make that decision for us all… I can’t say that I have taken a train to Chicago. Although, I would like to try the scenic one that goes from Chicago to San Francisco some day.. :).
 
Let's think ahead before we decide. Too often, no one looks at the big picture of a proposed change before it occurs.
If we end the DT/ST routine, instead of the twice yearly time changes it's possible we will have all businesses altering their hours of operation through the year, as the days get shorter and longer, to suit their needs and their staff desires.
So, instead of a predicable chaos, we might have daily chaos!
Hopefully the fed will fix their office hours so that won't be a problem.
Maybe banks will follow, and perhaps large businesses.
But the millions of small business owners? You might find some shops alter their hours each half year and others don't. Don't get too used to Bob's barbershop being open 9-5. He may decide he is not getting enough winter sun and shifts his hours to 8-4!
 
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe said:
Given that the whole reason for time zones was to make train schedules easier - when was the last time you took a train to Chicago?
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It was trains back then. Can you imagine airlines - international airlines - trying to schedule based on local times that don’t even align the top of their hours?
 
Llewtrah381 said:
It was trains back then. Can you imagine airlines - international airlines - trying to schedule based on local times that don’t even align the top of their hours?
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it’ll just be fixed in software
 
DST in winter means kids would walk to school (wherever that happens) in the dark
 
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Much of Indiana used to stay on one time year around - I liked it, but Gov Daniels worked to change it. I would prefer it just to be different from the rest of you all. Being like everyone else isn’t very exciting anyway.
 
I prefer we all change to zeldman time. That is you get up in the morning and try to figure out the time zone I set my watch to....

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe said:
when was the last time you took a train to Chicago?
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The train to/from Chicago comes through Gallup 2 times a day... I didn't go all the way to Chicago, just to Albuquerque and back a couple times.
 
Salty said:
Because schools are incapable of changing class hours?
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Have you had kids? How easy is it for most working adults to shift THEIR hours to get a kid to school an hour later?

The point is, there are ripple effects that should at least be considered.
 
Rather than screwing with time, I think they should try screwing with mass. Make the US standard for a kilogram be 1.2x more from October through March, to have the fun effects of making all the people playing the metric system weigh less during the winter, while having all the scientists convert between "holiday savings mass" to "regular mass".
 
When I was growing up, most businesses had 'winter hours' which were an hour earlier than 'summer hours.'

Guess why?

I know, I know, then why doesn't everyone do that. Getting the governmental agencies on board would be problemat.... it ain't happening.
 
Llewtrah381 said:
DST in winter means kids would walk to school (wherever that happens) in the dark
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pick your poison... walking to school in the dark or walking home from school in the dark, especially if the child is involved in after-school activities. In the northern parts of the USA there aren't a lot of daylight hours in the winter months.
 
My personal preference would be standard time year round. It is silly that at my longitude the sun doesn't reach it's mid-point until about 2pm CDT.

At a minimum, go back to standard time being the majority of the year, rather than being on DST almost 8 months.

I read an article a couple of years ago that made a good case that in this age of jet travel and light speed voice/data communications for CONUS to only have two time zones, an hour apart. Eastern would fall back to go on central time; Pacific would move forward to Mountain.
 
Van Johnston said:
My personal preference would be standard time year round. It is silly that at my longitude the sun doesn't.../QUOTE]
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I see you live way south. I live way north, and the extra hour of daylight in the evening is appreciated much more than an extra hour of daylight in the winter near these parts. Can't make everybody happy, but I for one would welcome a fixed DST.

Edit: if you are seeing sun solstice at 1pm cst, then maybe the fix should be a time zone change for your area. You should not be more than 1/2 hour away (at noon) from sun solstice.
 
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Zulu worldwide. I have seen so many virtual meetings get hosed up over time zone confusion that I really wish we’d all just set our watches the same. The last engineering project I worked had teammates from Egypt, Sudan, England, Florida, western Canada, and Colorado. Six different time zones before even considering DST-induced confusion.

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?
 
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