Lockdown at Newark

"Flights have been held at the terminal, and officials are looking at surveillance footage. Port Authority police are assisting in the search, and passengers have been asked to come back to be screened again."
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Wonder what happens if they say no?
 
YAY TSA!!! YAY!!!!!!

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!

(Make sure you peak into everyone's underwear)
 
I think Scott's avatar must have been the one keeping watch when this guy "went in the out door" so to speak.

Jeez.

First, how does someone go in through the exit without being challenged?

Second, how do they still not know who it was nearly 24 hours later?

(after my experience last Friday those are both rhetorical questions).

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
According to the NY Daily News , the a person waiting for an arriving passenger told the TSA person guarding the exit that someone went in through the exit. A review of the tapes showed the person left through a different exit about 20 minutes later.
 
OK...upon further review penalty declined 1st down...

kkoran said:
According to the NY Daily News , the a person waiting for an arriving passenger told the TSA person guarding the exit that someone went in through the exit. A review of the tapes showed the person left through a different exit about 20 minutes later.
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And our DHS wants to tell the rest of the world "how it should be done".... :nono:

Sigh.
 
wsuffa said:
And our DHS wants to tell the rest of the world "how it should be done".... :nono:

Sigh.
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I was chatting with a TSA agent that I see a lot at ORD one day in the terminal. We are on friendly terms and this was a social discussion and he asked where I was headed and where I had been recently. I had just returned from Israel and soon the conversation turned to security.

I mentioned that Tel Aviv airport had a really neat screening process for checked baggage. Before you even make it to the check in counter your bags are x-rayed, a bar code is stuck to them and then if a detailed search is needed you are taken to a nearby station where they scan the bar code and on the display the security agent can see the recently taken x-ray. Then your bags are searched while you are standing there and they can ask you any questions they need. It prevents loss as you have to unlock oyur bag and are witnessing that nothing is taken or put in while the bag is unlocked. A really great idea. And if they find somethign you are easily found and detained as you are standing right there.

My TSA acquaintance was completely befuddled and stated this would never work in the US as the TSA needs privacy to search bags. I asked why but he really could not coherently tell me. It was one of the NIH things. Until the TSA invents the idea it cannot borrow form anyone else.

SIGH!
 
smigaldi said:
My TSA acquaintance was completely befuddled and stated this would never work in the US as the TSA needs privacy to search bags. I asked why but he really could not coherently tell me. It was one of the NIH things. Until the TSA invents the idea it cannot borrow form anyone else.

SIGH!
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It used to work here to some degree and at stations where the CTX is in the lobby (rather than the bowels) you can still stand there and watch your bag go through or be searched.

Your TSA friend doesn't know.

Part of the reason that it's done privately here is that the CTX has been placed in the baggage flow in the bowels of the airport. The airlines and airport like it that way - more convenient for them & integrated into the work flow. The sarcastic part of me says that in some airports (NY, for example) it so they can proceed unmolested and stuff can "disappear" with the airline and TSA pointing fingers at each other (yeah, I know that's a consequence, not a reason.... but there are some opportunist employees on both sides).

TLV is a smaller airport with less passenger flow. Some things that work there won't work here with current pax counts. Of course, if the TSA keeps up, we'll end up with lower pax counts because no one will want to fly.
 
Alleged perp apparently arrested.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582645,00.html

A bystander waiting for an arriving passenger noticed the breach and told the guard. TSA officials then discovered that surveillance cameras at the security checkpoint had not recorded the breach and were forced to consult backup security cameras operated by Continental Airlines.

Hmmmm....
 
Steve said:
Alleged perp apparently arrested.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582645,00.html

A bystander waiting for an arriving passenger noticed the breach and told the guard. TSA officials then discovered that surveillance cameras at the security checkpoint had not recorded the breach and were forced to consult backup security cameras operated by Continental Airlines.

Hmmmm....
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After reading that article I cannot help but wonder are they sure they got the right guy or just a random person.
 
mmmmm yup... There is no guarantee that the guy ducking the rope on the Continental video is one and the same...
Ya know, in a rational world, there would simply be a screen wall at the entrance and exit corridors and a one way revolving door... Problemo solved... taaaa daaaa....

denny-o
 
smigaldi said:
After reading that article I cannot help but wonder are they sure they got the right guy or just a random person.
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It don't matter as long as they make someone "pay". It'll shield them from the embarassment they're now facing.

"Moose and Squirrel must pay..."

"Bullwinkle: You just leave that to my pal. He's the brains of the outfit.
General: What does that make you ?
Bullwinkle: What else? An executive.."
 
You should see their "increased security" now. Instead of having one guy sitting at one podium in the exit lane, staring off into space, they've now added a second podium with a second dude staring off into space.

I get emails from the AIS whenever EWR goes into restrictions. Here's a couple from that night.

Just before the incident:
FAA AIS said:
Due to [ WEATHER / WIND ] there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving [ Newark International Airport(EWR) ]. This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 2 hours and 6 minutes.
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Then less than five minutes later:
FAA AIS said:
Due to [ SECURITY BREACH TERMINAL C. THIS STOP IS FOR COA/CJC/UCA FLIGHTS ONLY. DO NOT CHARGE AS AN ATC DLA. ] there is a Ground Stop in effect for traffic arriving [ Newark International Airport(EWR) ].
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I got that one about every 15 minutes starting at 1945 until this came at 2340:
FAA AIS said:
The Ground Stop due to [ SECURITY. COA, CJC AND UCA FLIGHTS ONLY. ] to airport [ EWR ] was cancelled at [ 04/0439 Zulu ].
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I have never seen delays like that in the three years I've been flying into the NY airports. I wasn't working that night, but when I went in the next day, our operation was still screwed up (people and planes way out of position) until almost 1900. With the number of flight cancellations, additional overnights, crew deadheads, and ferry flights that resulted for us, I can't even begin to imagine the economic impact this had on Continental.
 
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