How about you tell me what specific things the politicians should have done to make things better.
No. Politicians literally make a living by lying. There’s nothing any politician can do based upon their base values that can be anything except destructive in their end results. They accomplish nothing useful other than make dumb people feel better emotionally about realities they don’t want to face and adapt to.
If anyone asks you 'why is this virus spreading in the US', just point them to this thread.
Yup. They’ll read “viruses do that unless you quarantine the ill” and say DUH.
If N95 masks and face shields were widely available to everyone, them MAYBE the individual's opportunity to take responsibility for avoiding infection would be real,.
There’s quite a number of other ways more effective that work every year for medical professionals without masks that handle a much larger percentage infection risk than what a mask stops.
Case in point : Try not bathing ever while wearing a mask and see how you do.
Hand washing and basic hygiene is handling well over 90% of your most likely infection vector. And that’s only if you’re even where the thing actually is, which for a couple hundred million of us is “not here”. The mask is purely ancillary.
We know that most countries have done a far better job of controlling the spread of the virus than we have, so there must be SOMETHING that works. Maybe we should spend more time studying what they did.
They stopped travel and quarantined inbound travelers for 14 days. As mentioned already.
One rather large group of political cult members didn’t even like our leadership stopping international flights, let alone wouldn’t have totally lost their crap if he had mandated personal quarantine.
They also closed or limited public transport or simply didn’t have it, depending on which one you like. Nobody rode.
Other politicians in the cities with direct flights multiple times a day, left their trains running. Same screeching from the opposite cult if he had closed them down.
But even then those things triggered small numbers. The real numbers started and grew from shared housing and shared HVAC from those initials.
Anyway doesn’t matter now. Completely unworkable at the beginning and continues to be.
Just make sure they don’t get close to denverpilot or salty
If everyone actually stayed home for the first 4 weeks, those that were "essential" actually wore proper masks 100% of the time and washed/sanitized their hands often, and we had leaders that were competent, then everyone could be getting back to "normal" life in a safe (still wearing masks) manner already. But because there are enough people in this country that think they don't have to follow the rules/recommendations and believe that everyone else can fend for themselves, we are now in a prolonged situation where an extra 100,000? people are dying as a result.
Water under the bridge. And insulting you think I’m infecting anyone. If I sit here for five days without symptoms you can take your comment and effff right off.
Plus I wear the mask. Not because I think it’s as useful or effective as my OTHER measures, but because we wouldn’t want to scare one of you with that pesky cough from a far worse medical issue. Y’all are ****y and wouldn’t even bother to ask anyone why. If I was some sort of ass, I’d just go get a medical note the thing ain’t great for me, which hundreds have already done in the support group.
Masks aren’t a one size fits all, but some doofus might think so who can’t think beyond the things as they take it off by their same hand they pick their nose with as they remove it. (As mentioned, it’s the nurse’s game and she’s caught two to my one and I’m trying to catch up! LOL. “But I wore my mask! I don’t know how I caught it!” Because, you have no idea how to use a mask, dum-dum... LOL.)
"Slowing is not preventing" is an oversimplification.
Still accurate. What rate do you want to go at, is the question. Current infection rate is two years. Minimum. Do the math and probe it wrong. I’m cool. Still have to make a decision.
Mathematically the fastest two solutions are locking everyone up or running hospitals at Max capacity. Anything inbetween lengthens contact and kills more. Nobody seems to want either one, so we’ll be doing it “wrong”.
Getting the R0 number below 1 will result in cases naturally going away over time, so
R0 hasn’t even been above 1 in the vast majority of the continent. Where it has most have fallen back to 1. It bumped above 1 for two weeks here Statewide and 40% of that was nursing homes and meat packing plants.
There’s a reason my lockdown governor just removed the raw data from our State website. He’s all about “transparency” I guess?
For someone who doesn't want other people making decisions on your health, you sure are for making a lot of decisions regarding other people's health conditions. Namely, just let it spread and let it kill them without their consent. Or just not wear a mask, spread it to someone else, and then let them kill someone vulnerable without their consent.
Consent? LOL. The virus lets you decide? Hell, why didn’t you just say so?!
Spreading and killing is generally what viruses do. Ed saying he acknowledges that and doesn’t care, isn’t consenting to anything for you. Hide and wait for the UPS guy to bring it. It’s already killed people in grocery stores and Amazon warehouses. You “consent” to that every time you buy something that isn’t food or sanitary products.
Did you really need those “essential” cookies and the hundred people out making them? No. You technically needed ingredients to make bread and some water and a jar of peanut butter or a different small amount of protein.
Complaints from anybody buying anything non-essential by making others go produce, deliver, and sell those things, become hypocritical instantly.
Hell, demanding the hospital stay open is. Those people don’t technically have to be there for you. Mine hasn’t skipped a day of work for all the adult chickens out there.
She also knows she’s my number one attack vector. Oh well.
At least she’s migrating from being mad at how you idiots use masks to just laughing at you now.
She tried to educate at first. She gave up and enjoys her weekends now.
She posts actual good news about the thing on her social media and ignores the political cultists who lose their crap every time anything good is mentioned, down in her comments. They can’t help themselves after decades of conditioning to believe politics and government truly love them and wants the best for them. LOL!
