Kindle 3 or Nook?

Which eBook reader?

  • Kindle 3

    Votes: 12 37.5%
  • Barnes & Noble Nook

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Borders Kobo

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Total voters
    32

dmccormack

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My birthday fast approaches and my dear wife wants to get me an eBook.

I've looked at various online reviews and no clear winner appears.

Anyone else make this choice? Which did you choose and why?

I only plan to use it for reading -- no approach plates, yada, yada.
 
In addition to "Other" how about another option "I like real books"?
 
iPad. It not only will be a nice eBook reader for you and not anchored to one specific format like some of the other choices it will make a very nice EFB.
 
In addition to "Other" how about another option "I like real books"?

I have five "real books" I'm reading right now: Washington, 1759, Aloft, Wings of Madness, Alan ESV and Cambridge NIV Bible.

My oldest book was printed in Baltimore in 1810.

I have several thousand so I'm all good on the real book thing. :rolleyes2:

But when I travel I'm kinda tired of lugging 4-5 books to get me through various waits.
 
iPad. It not only will be a nice eBook reader for you and not anchored to one specific format like some of the other choices it will make a very nice EFB.

Hmmm....

It seems a bit heavy for hours of reading and the distraction factor would probably reduce actual reading done on the iPad.
 
I just got Leah a Nook for our anniversary. She really likes it. I mainly bought the Nook because we can download books through our local library onto the Nook which is not an option for the Kindle. I went with the 3G version since we don't have wireless internet at the apartment. With the 3G you can download books from B&N.
 
iPad. It not only will be a nice eBook reader for you and not anchored to one specific format like some of the other choices it will make a very nice EFB.

I find my Kindle 1 is are easier to read for long periods than anything with a backlight. The e-ink is much easier on the eyes.
 
I've had a Nook for about 5 months now. Operationally it's pretty good although it gets hung up periodically requiring a reboot which takes about a minute. At least that doesn't lose content so once the reboot is complete you can go right back to what you were reading. One time when it died it wouldn't reboot until I plugged it in for an hour though. B&N support wasn't much help.

I kinda like the mini touch screen on the bottom and one thing I've found I really like is the ability to increase the font size when I'm trying to read without glasses and/or in dim light. Page turning takes about a second which is noticeable but not really objectionable to me. The dedicated page buttons on both sides are a nice touch.

I've never used a Kindle other than playing with one in a store briefly so I really can't offer a good comparison.
 
Hmmm....

It seems a bit heavy for hours of reading and the distraction factor would probably reduce actual reading done on the iPad.
Not to mention huge price difference and the battery life difference between the iPad and all of the dedicated eReaders. Really an apples and oranges comparison in trying to shoehorn something into a category it's not made for. I mean, you CAN take a Pitts cross country to Gaston's but ...

I like the appeal of the ebook readers to take on the road instead of 47 pounds of paper. I'm a book person and I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 24 bookshelves full of printed books, including some very old and very cool books, but for travel and convenience there's definitely a place in the world for the electronics.
 
Not to mention huge price difference and the battery life difference between the iPad and all of the dedicated eReaders. Really an apples and oranges comparison in trying to shoehorn something into a category it's not made for. I mean, you CAN take a Pitts cross country to Gaston's but ...

I like the appeal of the ebook readers to take on the road instead of 47 pounds of paper. I'm a book person and I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 24 bookshelves full of printed books, including some very old and very cool books, but for travel and convenience there's definitely a place in the world for the electronics.
I think it depends on how you travel. I am on commercial air a lot and carry paper book. When the cabin doors closes I do not have to put away my book until it is safe to use it again like the eBook guys do. What is funny is that most of them put their electronic device away and then pull out a magazine.
 
I think it depends on how you travel. I am on commercial air a lot and carry paper book. When the cabin doors closes I do not have to put away my book until it is safe to use it again like the eBook guys do. What is funny is that most of them put their electronic device away and then pull out a magazine.
True. But I hate it when I finish my book on the front end of a five day trip. Leaves nothing left to do but go out drinking with clients all week and then sleep on the trip home.

Oh, wait ...
 
True. But I hate it when I finish my book on the front end of a five day trip. Leaves nothing left to do but go out drinking with clients all week and then sleep on the trip home.

Oh, wait ...
LOL!

I have had that happen. Thankfully there are places where you can buy books. Hotel gifts shops, books stores, airports, etc. There are even, gasp, underground business traveler book exchanges if you know where to look (hint=airport lounges are one good place).
 
eInk is easier on the eyes. The drawback is that the eInk displays are slow to update.
Can you read that fast? :rofl:

Seriously though, I have a Kindle which I like a lot. I'll say that the advantages are not having to carry a book or a number of books when traveling and having the ability to try and/or buy a book instantly rather than having to order it or go to the bookstore. The disadvantages are that pictures and maps don't show up well. If I really want to see a picture or a map I use the Kindle for PC program and look at it on my computer. As Scott mentions it's considered an electronic device on an airplane so you can't have it on during takeoff or landing. I've been admonished by the FA more than once. It's hard to flip through the pages as Scott alludes to since the pages don't turn all that fast, although you can bookmark pages if you plan to refer to them later. Also, not all books are available. I would say most of the well known and recent titles are, however.

All in all, I'm glad I bought mine although I don't know how it compares to a Nook or an iPad. When I read real books I would often give them away or donate them when I was finished because I'm not that fond of accumulating things so it's not like I'm someone who was interested in building a library.
 
I bought a Kindle 3. Two reasons: 1) Readability is crisp and clear. 2) Performance (turning pages) is acceptable.
 
The iPad has the Kindle app, the Nook app, and of course the iBooks app. All are free. So, you can just buy the book from a) whoever has it, or b) whoever's cheapest.

Cue ironic discussion about "not being tied to a particular provider." ;)
 
Not to mention huge price difference and the battery life difference between the iPad and all of the dedicated eReaders. Really an apples and oranges comparison in trying to shoehorn something into a category it's not made for. I mean, you CAN take a Pitts cross country to Gaston's but ...

...than, you have to leave in three hours to go back home! :wink2:
 
Kindle all the way....try using a touchscreen in turbulence.....forget it.
 
Thanks for all the comments!

My wife surprised me with a new Kindle for my birthday today -- wow, no question this is the eReader that will work for this Luddite!

Well done, Amazon!
 
FYI, I had a Nook for two weeks - that's it. The one thing I really, really hated about it was that it was clunky with PDFs. If I ever get another eReader, it has to be one where I can zoom in on PDFs and navigate them easier. I was really hoping I could use it to reduce the number of FAA Handbooks that I carry around as a CFI, and instead just use the downloads straight off the FAA website, and it was a complete flop. I couldn't use the PDFs, so I dumped the reader.

Ryan
 
Thanks for all the comments!

My wife surprised me with a new Kindle for my birthday today -- wow, no question this is the eReader that will work for this Luddite!

Well done, Amazon!
Happy Birthday! I have had a Kindle for almost a year and I use it quite a bit. I think I read more now that I have it. Recently I started reading a "real" book at night in bed and realized how unwieldy it is compared to the Kindle. I think the main shortcoming of the Kindle is that it doesn't display pictures or maps well but if I really want to see a picture or a map I use the Kindle for PC program and view it on my computer.
 
I only plan to use it for reading -- no approach plates, yada, yada.
As a programmer, I vote for Kindle. The quality of its software is far higher than Nook's. It's not saying much, Nook's sw stack is a horrifying pile of garbage, buggy and disproportionally slow.

My wife has an early adopter's Kindle, which is not powerful enough to read PDFs natively. But otherwise it's a nifty gadget. Still runs on the original battery. The new ones are improved, mostly owing to spec ramp-ups. There's also a larger format unit called "DX", but I am not familiar with it.

I never played with B&N's offering.

In the "Other" category, look at Sony. It does not have an easy way to get books from Amazon, but if you know where to get the literature in any of supported formats, it works just as well as Kindle. PDF included.
 
As a software developer, I usually have a laptop with me wherever I go, so that is an option for me most of the time. I also have a PDA, so I use it most of the time for reading books. The PDA has a TFT display on it, so it is minimally readable in bright sunlight, but that's better than any of the laptops that I have ever had. The PDA is pretty good for reading in bed before falling asleep since it has a backlight and it will go dim if I haven't turned a page within a certain amount of time, thus working fairly well with my habit of falling asleep while reading a book. A laptop is just a bit too bulky to use to read a book in bed. I have been tempted to get a Kindle, just for the readability of it in daylight. As a software developer, I can see a use for it in having various manuals and notes on a separate device that is not tied to the laptop that I might be using which could be in the process of being rebooted due to software or update installations. I have downloaded the Kindle reader for my PC and used Mobipocket Creator to convert the TX approach plates from PDF to a .prc file for use in the Kindle reader and although the data appeared to be there, it just didn't look exactly the same. The Kindle has an 800x600 display, so I'm curious if it would still provide a readable approach plate. When I view the PDF on my laptop, I find it a bit to small to read in full screen mode even though with a 1366x768 screen resolution, it is nearly the same vertical resolution (768) as the Kindle (800). With my laptop, I have to change the entire document orientation just to read a page that is in portrait vs landscape mode. With something as small and light as the Kindle, I can see it being less of an issue since you could just rotate the device itself if you are holding it in your hand. If you are planning on mounting it on a yoke or kneeboard, that might be an issue if you are planning on using it for approach plates. I could see how someone might possibly find useful a yoke mount that would allow the Kindle to rotate with stop positions / detents every 90 degrees for such a situation.

With regard to a previous comment about using commercial flights and having to turn the e-book reader off during takeoffs and landings, I can see how that might be an inconvenience of any of the e-readers vs actual paper. I'm not so sure that I agree with their policy of making us turn off all of our electronic devices. I'm pretty sure that those people with electronic watches do not turn off their watches during those flight phases. In fact, I would hazard to guess that most battery powered watches do not even have the provision to be turned off without removing the back of the watch and physically removing the battery. Some of the electronic watches are a bit more full featured than others and have calculators in them and I have even seen some that have cell phones in them. I think that we need a bit more real world common sense with respect to what might cause interference. If a calculator is not expected to interfere with the cockpit avionics, then something like the Kindle should not as long as it is possible to turn off the wireless features of it. Of course from a control standpoint, it is just easier to tell people to turn off their devices than to tell them to reconfigure them so that they are not broadcasting on any RF frequency.

There are also some USENET newsgroups where people post books in various e-book formats. I've downloaded a few from there when I decided to reread a book that I already owned whose paper was starting to yellow. It's more convenient for me to read it that way than to dig out the old paperback from my storage boxes. Eventually, I figure that I'll download every paperback that I ever bought and can just throw all the old paperbacks away.
 
My next question - spring for the 3G? I don't plan to "need to download that book NOW" but am I missing something? I can see the need for 3G when checking emails... but a book?
 
I'm on my second Kindle, the large DX and just bought my wife the Kindle 3 for xmas after she started reading one of my books and wouldn't give my toy back! The DX holds all the approach plates, airport directories, etc for CONUS. I love the newspaper subscriptions that are there waiting for you in the morning. My only complaint is I wish Kindle would implement a book sharing system like Nook. I'm surprised they haven't yet but once Nook gains a little market share they probably will.
 
My next question - spring for the 3G? I don't plan to "need to download that book NOW" but am I missing something? I can see the need for 3G when checking emails... but a book?
It works just fine without 3G. The re-encoded MOBI format that Amazon uses for books is not as heavy as PDF.
-- Pete
 
Happy Birthday! I have had a Kindle for almost a year and I use it quite a bit. I think I read more now that I have it. Recently I started reading a "real" book at night in bed and realized how unwieldy it is compared to the Kindle. I think the main shortcoming of the Kindle is that it doesn't display pictures or maps well but if I really want to see a picture or a map I use the Kindle for PC program and view it on my computer.

Thanks -- and I agree! It's amazingly light and easy to manage.

The text clarity is truly astounding.
 
Do the droid phones/computers do any e-books?
B&N has an app for that but they also have a Nook that is based on Android; the NOOK Color. Nothing from B&N says that but the internet buzz says this.
Even though I have the X, I'm not sure I want to read books on it.
 
My Touch has an e-reader. I have a lot of free books on it. I don't use it all that much though, but it's there if I were in a real pinch - nothing to read and a long wait. The Touch battery doesn't last very long though. One long flight and that is about it.

You can read about a paragraph at a time before turning the page.
 
Can someone tell me which one IS backlit, and which one isn't, and why not-backlit is better? I remember reading that, and I thought "how can you read in dim light sitches, then".
The Kindle is not backlit which makes it more like reading from paper. Some people think that is easier on the eyes. Of course, just like a paper book you need a separate source of light if it is dark. I have never tried to read for a long time off anything like an iPad, which is backlit so I can't make any comment on how it compares to the Kindle which I own.
 
Thanks. I read my berry all the time, which is backlit, and obviously the computer. Neither seems to bother my eyes, but on the other hand I guess if I were in a dark room reading the computer it might bother me...

clicked send on Kindle just now...
 
A few more Kindle links to ponder:

Free books:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/

Forum:

http://www.kindleboards.com/

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/ may give info on converting Epub books to be read on Kindle...

Can someone tell me which one IS backlit, and which one isn't, and why not-backlit is better? I remember reading that, and I thought "how can you read in dim light sitches, then".
AFaIK the Nook Color is the only dedicated reader with a backlit display. I don't know what that gets for battery life but I believe one of the main reasons every other reader uses something like "e-Ink" (high contrast static reflective LCD) is because of the very low power consumption for that type of display.

The original Nook has a small touch sensitive color TFT display at the bottom of the unit which is backlit and goes dark most of the time.
 
Thank you everybody for this thread. I have a Kindle on the list for my wife and it's time to order.

I think battery life, size and readable in daylight argue against an iPad for this application. Plus she makes the luddites on this forum look like nerdy hackers.

Tony - what form do library books come in that are incompatible? It would be cool to access libraries across the country.

Scott - trying to derive meaning from your post count has cost me a few hours of frustration. Perhaps a few years of intense psychotherapy could unravel it.

As far as the refresh rate on a reader:
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