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I have the twin turbo 2.7L in my 2016 F-150. LOT's of power and I average 23.8 mpg city/highway and that with the air conditioner on 9 months out of the year.
Actually, only the engine beat the Nissan, and not by a significant amount. That’s really no surprise, as the EcoBoost output numbers are better, it’s a 10 speed transmission, and it’s a much newer engine. Nissan has been using that same 5.6L V8 for more than 10 years.
Overall, the Ford lost to the heavier, more stable Titan as noted at the conclusion of the video. And that was a heck of a lot of squat from the F-150. I didn’t catch whether it had a payload package on it, but the Japanese trucks typically have weak leaf springs, so the squat of the F-150 is a little surprising. It’s tough to fix the weight problem for towing, though.
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Overall, the Ford lost to the heavier, more stable Titan as noted at the conclusion of the video. And that was a heck of a lot of squat from the F-150. I didn’t catch whether it had a payload package on it, but the Japanese trucks typically have weak leaf springs, so the squat of the F-150 is a little surprising. It’s tough to fix the weight problem for towing, though.
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Don't think they agreed with you, Nate. Did better up the hill (as JKG said, not surprising given the engine and transmission combo), but wasn't considered as stable or as good at braking. The stability is what I get concerned with the most, having had some trailers get squirrely on me.
Jesse's said that towing his boat (my old boat) that it's barely noticeable. That trailer is rated for 7k lbs, so let's say it's something in the 6-7k lb range. I never had it weighed when I had it. Big difference between that and an 11k trailer.
Personally, I think if you're going to be towing 11k lbs at all you should get a 3/4 ton. It seemed from that report that the Titan XD would do fine if you lived in the flatlands, but get pretty marginal pretty quick in hilly territories. Seemed like 11k with the F-150 wasn't going to be a very good idea at all.
But really, Nate, you just want to get rid of your Ram and get something else. Can't blame you. Your Ram is set up for towing a giant 5th wheel camper, which you've sold. Honestly those gen Rams were not nearly as good of driving trucks as the 3rd and 4th gens (2003 onwards), and without having a need for that kind of capability, you want to get something more comfortable. My Ram makes a nice daily driver. My question would be if you envision yourself having a use for the capability in the future. If so, you're probably better off keeping it unless you want an excuse to buy new, because you won't be able to find a good used one when you're ready to jump back in.
Jesse's said that towing his boat (my old boat) that it's barely noticeable. That trailer is rated for 7k lbs, so let's say it's something in the 6-7k lb range. I never had it weighed when I had it. Big difference between that and an 11k trailer.
Personally, I think if you're going to be towing 11k lbs at all you should get a 3/4 ton. It seemed from that report that the Titan XD would do fine if you lived in the flatlands, but get pretty marginal pretty quick in hilly territories. Seemed like 11k with the F-150 wasn't going to be a very good idea at all.
But really, Nate, you just want to get rid of your Ram and get something else. Can't blame you. Your Ram is set up for towing a giant 5th wheel camper, which you've sold. Honestly those gen Rams were not nearly as good of driving trucks as the 3rd and 4th gens (2003 onwards), and without having a need for that kind of capability, you want to get something more comfortable. My Ram makes a nice daily driver. My question would be if you envision yourself having a use for the capability in the future. If so, you're probably better off keeping it unless you want an excuse to buy new, because you won't be able to find a good used one when you're ready to jump back in.
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I've got an 05 F250 with the 6.0 (let the hate start rolling, its been a dang good truck 
) that I used to use to tow 7-10k lbs weekly. Don't tow that much anymore and am looking at the Ecoboost. Good to hear you guys like yours. Those ecoboost torture test videos were pretty cool too.
) that I used to use to tow 7-10k lbs weekly. Don't tow that much anymore and am looking at the Ecoboost. Good to hear you guys like yours. Those ecoboost torture test videos were pretty cool too.Nissan = throw up in my mouth a little bit
I know we’ve had this discussion before, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with them. I do think they’re a bit of a niche product, and I don’t think that either Nissan with the Titan or Toyota with the Tundra realistically expect to challenge the Big Three. They do provide an opportunity to retain customers looking to upgrade from Frontiers and Tacomas, and neith truck is a bad half-ton option.
I really like the F-150 and suspect that’s the way I’d go if I were in the market for a half-ton truck, but I probably wouldn’t buy one to regularly tow 11k pounds.
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I’m sure they are decent trucks..it would just be probably my last pick to be honest
I’m sure they are decent trucks..it would just be probably my last pick to be honest
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A/C only 9 months of the year.?? Where do you go for the other 3 months..??
Believe it not and early in the morning, I occasionally turn the heater on during those months.
As far as capability and reliability, the Titan is likely better than much of the half-ton competition. I’m not a huge fan of the looks, but honestly they’re all ugly to some degree, with Ford and Ram perhaps having the fewest aesthetic faults.
Nissan and Toyota are still using 10+ year old engines with respectable performance but comparatively poor fuel economy. However, I am still skeptical of the long-term reliability of the EcoBoost engines—as measured not in high mileage, but age.
I’m also skeptical of all domestic manufacturers when it comes to after-sale support. Seems like there’s still a lot of “old school” mentality at both the manufacturer and dealer levels.
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Hard to believe...
I did leave Gallup on morning and it was 24 degrees. I landed in Phoenix and it was 94. Had to remove the long underwear.... at least it was 40 degrees when I got back to Gallup. This time of year we get high 20s to low30s in the morning, and the windows are open with a fan going in the afternoon...
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I does get cold enough in Tucson to snow occasionally and we even had a couple of ice storms years ago. I live SE of Tucson and 1,000' higher so I usually get snow every year. Six inches one storm so I got to make my mom's recipe for snow cream for the girls.