Ed Haywood
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For us kids of the 70's and 80's, jeep rollover was one of the top 3 hazards of life.
Jeep Peeps, spend my money
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Ed Haywood
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That's a JK. 2019 was first year for JL.
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Ah, sorry. Mixing my generations.
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The JL was reportedly redesigned for better road manners.
My particular use case is mostly back roads and an occasional soggy trail for giggles in Florida. The only reason I care about road manners is in case I decide to relocate it to Colorado in the future.
I've moved around a lot, and have always believed in watching the natives and doing what they do. Jeeps are very popular in both FL and CO.
My particular use case is mostly back roads and an occasional soggy trail for giggles in Florida. The only reason I care about road manners is in case I decide to relocate it to Colorado in the future.
I've moved around a lot, and have always believed in watching the natives and doing what they do. Jeeps are very popular in both FL and CO.
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As I mentioned (despite mis-labeling the generation), the JK was just fine on the road and had notably better manners/noise than the YJ. I'm sure the newer 392 would be a riot. I have a cousin with one which has had all of the typical off-roading stuff done to a 392 Wrangler, but I haven't had the pleasure of riding in it.
charheep
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and somehow, quicksand was also in the top 3.
Well, sometimes it's type 2 fun...
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that and learning to stop, drop, and roll.
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And duck and cover.
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Your age is showing.
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Oh yeah, my kids look at me with bewilderment when I tell them we used to have nuclear bomb drills in elementary school.Your age is showing.
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Probably about the same look you give when they tell you about their active shooter drills . . .
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If you buy new, or CPO (certified pre-owned) I highly, repeat highly, recommend looking into the Chrysler 8 yr/125K mile Added Care Plus plan. Or, if you can swing it - the MaxCare plan. It paid off in my case. In 2014 I went to the dealer to order a new JK Sport. No frills except A/C. The salesman (whom we've used in the past) pointed out one he thought I'd like. It was a used 2011 JK/Sahara. But, it was green. I dislike green. I want white vehicles. Since it had the six-speed manual in it, it just sat there. Even the lot boys couldn't drive it. I asked for the extended service plan (at no extra charge, paid asking price for Jeep), and it paid off for me. The 3.8L engine and transmission have been flawless. Gutless, but no issues. There is something to be said about "old school" pushrods riding on hydraulic lifters. What was replaced under the terms of the extended service plan:
AC compressor - twice
Radiator
Rear Drive Shaft (cardan joint failed)
Fuel Tank
Fortunately all kinks have been worked out now for the last six or seven years. I have had to replace on wheel speed sensor, but it was an inexpensive and easy fix.
Don't expect stellar mileage. Mine is a daily driver. In the rolling hills of Central Texas I get around 17 mpg. That's keeping it at 65 mph too. With the stock tires, 3.73 axle ratio I see 2,000 rpm at 65. Even with the slightly taller Sahara package it rides and handles better than any other Jeep we've owned (I do miss my YJ though).
Now for a comparison, when we purchased my wife's 2010 Chrysler 300, I ponied up the extra $1,700 for a Lifetime Added Care Plus service plan. That car has lots of electronic geegaws to fail on it. We never needed to use that plan until it hit 156K miles. Both fuel pumps failed on it. Other than that, I replaced the thermostat. It has been a wonderfully reliable and comfortable car for us. In fact, when it was recently replaced with a Dodge Durango, our son begged us to sell it to him. He's enjoying it now. Sadly, the Lifetime service contract doesn't transfer.
AC compressor - twice
Radiator
Rear Drive Shaft (cardan joint failed)
Fuel Tank
Fortunately all kinks have been worked out now for the last six or seven years. I have had to replace on wheel speed sensor, but it was an inexpensive and easy fix.
Don't expect stellar mileage. Mine is a daily driver. In the rolling hills of Central Texas I get around 17 mpg. That's keeping it at 65 mph too. With the stock tires, 3.73 axle ratio I see 2,000 rpm at 65. Even with the slightly taller Sahara package it rides and handles better than any other Jeep we've owned (I do miss my YJ though).
Now for a comparison, when we purchased my wife's 2010 Chrysler 300, I ponied up the extra $1,700 for a Lifetime Added Care Plus service plan. That car has lots of electronic geegaws to fail on it. We never needed to use that plan until it hit 156K miles. Both fuel pumps failed on it. Other than that, I replaced the thermostat. It has been a wonderfully reliable and comfortable car for us. In fact, when it was recently replaced with a Dodge Durango, our son begged us to sell it to him. He's enjoying it now. Sadly, the Lifetime service contract doesn't transfer.
Shepherd
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My 1994 Wrangler experience:
Hot in the summer, Cold in the winter.
Noisy (wind, tire, engine) enough to make conversation very difficult.
At 54K miles it needed a clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, front torsion bar, battery, brakes (all around), exhaust system.
I bought door mechanisms, and window handles in bulk. They broke almost monthly.
BTW: it was NEVER off road. I used it in bad weather to go back and forth to the Lab or run errands.
On the plus side, it never, ever got stuck in the snow.
It had a really weird heavy chromed steel 1/2 inch plate, not tube, brush guard in the front. I've never seen one like it before, during or since.
My son was driving it to get to college in a snow storm. A BMW hit it head on. Except for paint transfer there was no damage to the Jeep
The BMW was totaled.
Hot in the summer, Cold in the winter.
Noisy (wind, tire, engine) enough to make conversation very difficult.
At 54K miles it needed a clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, front torsion bar, battery, brakes (all around), exhaust system.
I bought door mechanisms, and window handles in bulk. They broke almost monthly.
BTW: it was NEVER off road. I used it in bad weather to go back and forth to the Lab or run errands.
On the plus side, it never, ever got stuck in the snow.
It had a really weird heavy chromed steel 1/2 inch plate, not tube, brush guard in the front. I've never seen one like it before, during or since.
My son was driving it to get to college in a snow storm. A BMW hit it head on. Except for paint transfer there was no damage to the Jeep
The BMW was totaled.