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To start back to front boarding .... which is far more efficient in my opinion when getting on the big irons. And finally empty middle seats
 
WannFly said:
To start back to front boarding .... which is far more efficient in my opinion when getting on the big irons. And finally empty middle seats
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Are you flying commercial nowadays.
 
Ha, just thought about it. Maybe they should put first class in back.
 
They used to do that sometimes on the 727's, back in the days before jetways.

Rich
 
WannFly said:
To start back to front boarding .... which is far more efficient in my opinion when getting on the big irons. And finally empty middle seats
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I don’t think that’s true. I think Mythbusters did an episode on this. Back-to-front was the worst way they tested. Outside in or random was quicker.
 
WannFly said:
To start back to front boarding .... which is far more efficient in my opinion when getting on the big irons. And finally empty middle seats
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Airlines have tested that over the years...not the most efficient way to load a plane because too many people all at once in the same area are trying to all get settled in at the same time.

On the other end of the spectrum Southwest has one of the quickest boarding processes and it is completely randomized since anyone can choose their own seat which is one reason they resist assigned seating. Time is money.
 
Sluggo63 said:
I don’t think that’s true. I think Mythbusters did an episode on this. Back-to-front was the worst way they tested. Outside in or random was quicker.
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Mythbusters: when you have absolutely no scientific training or ability to conduct unbiased scientific experiments but want to prove your preconceived hypothesis on other people's dime.
 
WannFly said:
To start back to front boarding .... which is far more efficient in my opinion when getting on the big irons. And finally empty middle seats
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It's not actually the most efficient but, even so, the primary goal isn't efficiency. The primary goal (in ordinary times) is to give your best customers what they want--early boarding.

Also, most airlines are only blocking the middle seats from pre-assignment. That only prevents the passengers from choosing those seats prior to check-in. They aren't saying that they won't be assigned on the day of departure. They aren't going to leave passengers behind because they only have middle seats remaining.
 
smv said:
Mythbusters: when you have absolutely no scientific training or ability to conduct unbiased scientific experiments but want to prove your preconceived hypothesis on other people's dime.
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The premise of the show was never to conduct scientifically-conducted experiments. The point was usually "myth says this can't happen, we'll show that it can", or vice-versa. As an added bonus, on the best episodes, something big got blown up.
 
Larry in TN said:
It's not actually the most efficient but, even so, the primary goal isn't efficiency. The primary goal (in ordinary times) is to give your best customers what they want--early boarding.

Also, most airlines are only blocking the middle seats from pre-assignment. That only prevents the passengers from choosing those seats prior to check-in. They aren't saying that they won't be assigned on the day of departure. They aren't going to leave passengers behind because they only have middle seats remaining.
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Due to a technical issue, I once had to wait on the ramp for two hours after boarding. Not such a fan of early boarding; would rather be the last on.
 
Jeff Oslick said:
The premise of the show was never to conduct scientifically-conducted experiments. The point was usually "myth says this can't happen, we'll show that it can", or vice-versa. As an added bonus, on the best episodes, something big got blown up.
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The methods they used to "bust" or "confirm" the myths were dubious, at best.
 
Kenny Phillips said:
Due to a technical issue, I once had to wait on the ramp for two hours after boarding. Not such a fan of early boarding; would rather be the last on.
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The only reason I like getting on the plane relatively quickly is because they always tend to run out of overhead bin spaces and I’d rather not check my bag. If I’m deadheading, I’ll get on last because they crew will always find room for my bag but if I’m non revving, I like to get on pretty early. Delta boards like 5 zones before the first zone of economy gets to get on.
 
Jeff Oslick said:
I'm guessing you're an engineer ;). Because I'm a scientist, and I managed to enjoy the show.
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Hahaha.... Nahh.... I actually work for a living. ;) Mostly dealing in the real world with the product of engineering created by people who never step foot out of the drawing room and obviously have never had to work with the products they design. There are other reasons (like their insane fear of firearms, for example) that make me cringe, but their methods are the biggest deal breaker for me.
 
jordane93 said:
The only reason I like getting on the plane relatively quickly is because they always tend to run out of overhead bin spaces
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This.

Also if I have a window seat I like to get onboard early, but if I have an aisle seat I'll wait a little longer to board.
 
Won't boarding the rear of the plane first put it at risk of going over on its tail?

Also I do not understand why first class folks would want to board first. I would much rather be sitting down and putting on my seat belt 5 seconds before they close the door and begin push back. But I usually fly with only one small carry on that I stuff under the seat in front of me so I could care less about finding overhead space.
 
Juliet Hotel said:
Won't boarding the rear of the plane first put it at risk of going over on its tail?
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The rampers load the forward cargo first to prevent tipping and the stretch versions of many airliners utilize tail stands during loading and unloading.

Also I do not understand why first class folks would want to board first.
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Carry-on space. The first class seat is also more comfortable than the seats in the gate area. Some also look forward to a pre-departure drink.

In normal times, just watch all the people standing in line well before boarding starts then others crowding around the boarding area waiting to jump into like when their group is called.
 
jordane93 said:
Delta boards like 5 zones before the first zone of economy gets to get on.
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I can remember my fist flight with Jet Blue...and having no status unlike other airlines that have spoiled me I was dreading the process as bit. Was exited to get a boarding pass with Boarding Group 2...until after it was all said and done boarding group 2 was literally the LAST group to be called for boarding after what felt like 18 other calls!

"We will now be boarding female Indian lesbians abducted by UFO's and forced into diet programs with one leg tied behind your back..."
 
What they need to do is load the pax into a seating module in the terminal, and then use a davit to lower the whole module down into the airliner through a clam shell door on top of the fuselage.

Rich
 
I used to be one of the first on. Delta Diamond, wanted to get my carry-on in a bin and get that pre-flight drink if it was an evening flight. In the last 5 years, they really upped their game with checked bags and I started checking and getting on last. On a commuter flight, there would be the stupid line in the jetway to get bags, Houston in July. I'd cruise through to baggage claim and have my bag before my sweating co-workers. Long way of saying, bags were the only reason I wanted to board early.

As an aside, I was always amazed at the number of guys with briefcases and suits in first class on a morning flight (6 - 8 am) getting booze. Like 1/3 of the FC cabin.
 
Larry in TN said:
It's all about the carry-on space.
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Yup. I've had to gate check a number of times because the carry on space was full. At least it's a fast process and they don't charge, at least not on the flights when I had to do it.
 
Hang 4 said:
As an aside, I was always amazed at the number of guys with briefcases and suits in first class on a morning flight (6 - 8 am) getting booze. Like 1/3 of the FC cabin.
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I’ve been guilty of getting a champagne that early if I’m in first class. It’s all about the experience! For the most part, I do think it’s a little much. I definitely couldn’t do a beer that early but I could do a mimosa or a gin and tonic.
 
RJM62 said:
What they need to do is load the pax into a seating module in the terminal, and then use a davit to lower the whole module down into the airliner through a clam shell door on top of the fuselage.

Rich
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I have boarded late flights into DCA with a version of that. Ground crew lined up the entire flight in the terminal according to seat row back to front. Instructions were 'walk to your seat row and sit down. If you dont, we miss curfew at DCA and you are going to ride a bus from Richmond. Your choice'.
 
Sluggo63 said:
I don’t think that’s true. I think Mythbusters did an episode on this. Back-to-front was the worst way they tested. Outside in or random was quicker.
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I don't believe it. Not that I don't believe you, but I don't believe random is more efficient that back to front.
 
Kenny Phillips said:
Due to a technical issue, I once had to wait on the ramp for two hours after boarding. Not such a fan of early boarding; would rather be the last on.
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Exactly, I am a preferred customer with Delta and I hang around the terminal and usually the last to board . If I am sitting there for x hours I do not want to prolong it
 
Shawn said:
On the other end of the spectrum Southwest has one of the quickest boarding processes and it is completely randomized since anyone can choose their own seat which is one reason they resist assigned seating. Time is money.
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Love flying them, but I’ve never seen them leave a gate any faster than anybody else.

All the stragglers have to find overhead room that’s almost gone, and climb to a middle seat over someone.

Nothing particularly random about it.
 
Jeff Oslick said:
The premise of the show was never to conduct scientifically-conducted experiments. The point was usually "myth says this can't happen, we'll show that it can", or vice-versa. As an added bonus, on the best episodes, something big got blown up.
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Plus it was a good crew, they had a great chemistry the five of them
 
Sinistar said:
Ha, just thought about it. Maybe they should put first class in back.
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The back has more oscillation than the front. The effects of turbulence and rudder are additive in the back, subtractive in the front. IOW, the front is much more comfortable.
 
Larry in TN said:
....Some also look forward to a pre-departure drink....
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^^^This.



Hang 4 said:
....As an aside, I was always amazed at the number of guys with briefcases and suits in first class on a morning flight (6 - 8 am) getting booze. Like 1/3 of the FC cabin.
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When I fly commercial I have to have a vodka and cranberry no matter what time it is or else the plane is going down. It’s worked every time. Although I don’t wear a suit.
 
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