BravoCharlieFoxtrot
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Hello,
I've recently decided to go for my commercial certificate - I'm at roughly 270 total time, plenty of cross-country time, and have a complex endorsement + IR. My new instructor insists that I must do 10 additional hours of instrument training specifically for my commercial, and do 10 hours of complex training (with him). While he seems to be a very competent and knowledgeable CFI, I'm finding it hard to agree. Thus, this post has two parts;
My logbook remarks for some of my instrument training explicitly state "partial panel", "unusual attitude", and "intercept and tracking" (nowhere is "attitude instrument flying" explicitly stated in my logbook). I've read through several LOIs, and my interpretation was that because these areas mentioned in 61.129(3)(i) are covered, I should only need to go back for the bit of training to cover "attitude instrument flying" specifically (if I need to go back for more instrument training at all). Is my instructor correct here?
Second, I got checked out and endorsed in a complex aircraft, for which insurance required 10 hours of dual received complex time. Given that my logbook contains 10 hours of dual received complex training (not specifically marked as for 61.129, but completed after earning my PPL with some commercial maneuvers noted in the comments), shouldn't this requirement already be fulfilled? Again, the new instructor believes I need to do 10 more hours of complex training with him.
Having spent a lot of time with the applicable regs and LOIs, I'm fairly confident I'm correct that those 20 hours of training are already covered (except for possibly the "attitude instrument flying"), but I certainly see my instructor's interpretation of the regs. Any thoughts/debate would be much appreciated, thanks!
I've recently decided to go for my commercial certificate - I'm at roughly 270 total time, plenty of cross-country time, and have a complex endorsement + IR. My new instructor insists that I must do 10 additional hours of instrument training specifically for my commercial, and do 10 hours of complex training (with him). While he seems to be a very competent and knowledgeable CFI, I'm finding it hard to agree. Thus, this post has two parts;
My logbook remarks for some of my instrument training explicitly state "partial panel", "unusual attitude", and "intercept and tracking" (nowhere is "attitude instrument flying" explicitly stated in my logbook). I've read through several LOIs, and my interpretation was that because these areas mentioned in 61.129(3)(i) are covered, I should only need to go back for the bit of training to cover "attitude instrument flying" specifically (if I need to go back for more instrument training at all). Is my instructor correct here?
Second, I got checked out and endorsed in a complex aircraft, for which insurance required 10 hours of dual received complex time. Given that my logbook contains 10 hours of dual received complex training (not specifically marked as for 61.129, but completed after earning my PPL with some commercial maneuvers noted in the comments), shouldn't this requirement already be fulfilled? Again, the new instructor believes I need to do 10 more hours of complex training with him.
Having spent a lot of time with the applicable regs and LOIs, I'm fairly confident I'm correct that those 20 hours of training are already covered (except for possibly the "attitude instrument flying"), but I certainly see my instructor's interpretation of the regs. Any thoughts/debate would be much appreciated, thanks!