Iphone synching problem

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I have music on my Iphone (4G) acquired from two sources - a couple songs through the Itunes store, and a bunch of MP3's brought in through Itunes.

To make a long story short my computer crashed bad and required a wipe and a fresh OS install. I reinstalled Itunes, "authorized the computer", "transferred the purchases" and got all my apps to back up on to the computer through Itunes, but the only music that transferred from the phone to the computer were the two songs bought from Itunes, even after synching and backing up. For that matter, my photos won't synch from the phone back to the computer either. All that stuff worked fine before the crash.

The music that wouldn't download to the computer is still on the phone, but if I upgrade my Iphone OS I'll lose it. Is there a trick to getting music to download off the phone to Itunes?
 
Sac Arrow said:
I have music on my Iphone (4G) acquired from two sources - a couple songs through the Itunes store, and a bunch of MP3's brought in through Itunes.

To make a long story short my computer crashed bad and required a wipe and a fresh OS install. I reinstalled Itunes, "authorized the computer", "transferred the purchases" and got all my apps to back up on to the computer through Itunes, but the only music that transferred from the phone to the computer were the two songs bought from Itunes, even after synching and backing up. For that matter, my photos won't synch from the phone back to the computer either. All that stuff worked fine before the crash.

The music that wouldn't download to the computer is still on the phone, but if I upgrade my Iphone OS I'll lose it. Is there a trick to getting music to download off the phone to Itunes?
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Exercise your Google-fu - There are numerous utilities out there to do just that.
 
Actually, it's just now become an non-issue as I've found a backup to my stash I didn't know I had. I guess I'll research that for future use though.

Take home message - you need a third party app to override Itunes.
 
Yeah, backups are the "correct" answer. But there are tools to "free" stuff trapped in iOS devices.

This is one of Apple's real bone-headed moves. They could easily charge $10 for a "re-download because I'm a doofus who doesn't have backups" fee or more, and people would pay it.

Or just offer re-downloads as a good will gesture. I know bandwidth and servers aren't free, but they're sitting on billions in cash.

Amazon recently started offering "online backup" of stuff downloaded from them as a service. Apple's missing a big, obvious, boat on this one.
 
denverpilot said:
This is one of Apple's real bone-headed moves. They could easily charge $10 for a "re-download because I'm a doofus who doesn't have backups" fee or more, and people would pay it.

Or just offer re-downloads as a good will gesture. I know bandwidth and servers aren't free, but they're sitting on billions in cash.

Amazon recently started offering "online backup" of stuff downloaded from them as a service. Apple's missing a big, obvious, boat on this one.
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The problem isn't Apple - It's the contracts with the record companies. You *CAN* re-download apps. I'm not sure about movies and TV shows, but I think you can re-download those too. It's the songs you can't re-download. Point the finger at the idiots at RIAA, not Apple.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
The problem isn't Apple - It's the contracts with the record companies. You *CAN* re-download apps. I'm not sure about movies and TV shows, but I think you can re-download those too. It's the songs you can't re-download. Point the finger at the idiots at RIAA, not Apple.
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I'd believe this if Amazon weren't doing it. Times have changed. Might have been true once, but Apple certainly can negotiate the same terms Amazon has.

Or is Amazon getting away with it because they're calling it "online backup"? Seems like Apple could do that too. Start by offering it to MobileMe customers as an "add-on" to iDisk.
 
denverpilot said:
I'd believe this if Amazon weren't doing it. Times have changed. Might have been true once, but Apple certainly can negotiate the same terms Amazon has.
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Hah! Not so fast. As much money as Apple makes for the record industry, the record industry HATES Apple. They purposely gave better terms to AmazonMP3 when that started because they can't stand the amount of clout Apple has in their industry now.

Or is Amazon getting away with it because they're calling it "online backup"? Seems like Apple could do that too. Start by offering it to MobileMe customers as an "add-on" to iDisk.
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Possibly. And if they are to do such a thing, it'll probably be announced after their new data center in NC is finished and operational, which should be "any day now." I wouldn't be surprised to see an announcement in June.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
The problem isn't Apple - It's the contracts with the record companies. You *CAN* re-download apps. I'm not sure about movies and TV shows, but I think you can re-download those too. It's the songs you can't re-download. Point the finger at the idiots at RIAA, not Apple.
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Except other MP3 devices don't have this problem...
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Hah! Not so fast. As much money as Apple makes for the record industry, the record industry HATES Apple. They purposely gave better terms to AmazonMP3 when that started because they can't stand the amount of clout Apple has in their industry now.
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I *believe* this also, but unless you can cite a source, that's just conjecture. It could be Apple's "fault" just as much as RIAA's without public copies of the contracts or an announcement by either party in the press.

Thus... Apple should publish that information to show they care about their customers as much as Amazon does. :yes: :D
 
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