Human head transplant. No - no, not the Onion

Clark1961 said:
believe anything you want...it's a semi-free country
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There has been success repairing and regenerating spinal chord tissue in rats using stem cells published in peer review medical journals.:dunno: I do kinda tend to believe those.
 
I didn't read every link to it's conclusion, so I'm sorry if this was a promo for funding. If someone could tell me where the req for money is, I'll take that link out. My bad.
 
Henning said:
There has been success repairing and regenerating spinal chord tissue in rats using stem cells published in peer review medical journals.:dunno: I do kinda tend to believe those.
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good luck with that
 
docmirror said:
I didn't read every link to it's conclusion, so I'm sorry if this was a promo for funding. If someone could tell me where the req for money is, I'll take that link out. My bad.
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I missed it as well.:dunno: All I read was "mad scientist" stuff, didn't see the PT Barnum scam aspect.
 
Henning said:
I missed it as well.:dunno: All I read was "mad scientist" stuff, didn't see the PT Barnum scam aspect.
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the entire project is a scam...report back after verifying....
 
Zeldman said:
Didn't someone keep the head of a monkey alive (brain intact, eyes moved and reacted to sound) or is that the faint memories of some old movie that is partially obscured from my memory by alcohol..??
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That experiment strikes me as really cruel.
 
Palmpilot said:
That experiment strikes me as really cruel.
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Yeah, often there is a moral dillema in medical research. Learning some things is just a cruel process. The question is always is the knowledge worth it? He answer is almost always yes, but that means you have to be super careful monitoring your actions and limiting any suffering to the greatest extent possible.

The real issue is that you shouldn't be so afraid of dying that you would want your head transplanted.
 
Clark1961 said:
the entire project is a scam...report back after verifying....
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Well that didn't take long:

"Canavero says he has part of the funding secured, although he says he can't yet disclose where the money is coming from as a condition of the funding. He's also taking the 2015 layman's approach with crowd funding and book sales."​

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In other words, he's relying at least partly on the gullibility of the naïve and uninformed.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/03/healt...man-head-transplant-will-happen-in-two-years/

In the video at one of Doc's links, the guy talks a good game and sounds very confident. (Perhaps that's where the phase "confidence man" comes from.)

This is almost as bad as the Mars One project, which is expecting naïve volunteers to trust their lives to the success of a TV show. :yikes:
 
Another thing that makes me skeptical is that he is skipping the step of successfully demonstrating it in animals. If that isn't an appeal for suckers, I don't know what is.
 
I think it's a great stunt if he can pull it off and will lead to learning regardless. I don't see anyone getting rich off this unless he has a state level biotech firm behind all this, and he needs a way to disclose information to the public that doesn't get him branded with crimes against humanity. Lots of things can happen in the Siberian Gulags that no one will ever find out.

The guy he has is a volunteer, so no great moral outcry regardless the result.
 
Palmpilot said:
Well that didn't take long:

"Canavero says he has part of the funding secured, although he says he can't yet disclose where the money is coming from as a condition of the funding. He's also taking the 2015 layman's approach with crowd funding and book sales."​

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Is that quote from one of the links in my OP? I can't find it.
 
It's from the link I provided.
 
I kind of fall on the side of this guy is running a scam. The reason why is, he claims to know how to reconnect a spinal cord and restore mobility in the patient when others cannot. Yet he is unwilling to demonstrate his revolutionary technique prior to lopping somebody's head off.

How about this? Find a quadriplegic that has a severed spinal cord at the neck, perform the miracle technique and have the patient get up and walk around. No rejection issues at all and no need to cut all the other bits like arteries and wind pipes and such. Do this lessor miracle and then move on.

It doesn't seem like this is his strategy, so I call shenanigans. :yes:
 
Dav8or said:
I kind of fall on the side of this guy is running a scam. The reason why is, he claims to know how to reconnect a spinal cord and restore mobility in the patient when others cannot. Yet he is unwilling to demonstrate his revolutionary technique prior to lopping somebody's head off.

How about this? Find a quadriplegic that has a severed spinal cord at the neck, perform the miracle technique and have the patient get up and walk around. No rejection issues at all and no need to cut all the other bits like arteries and wind pipes and such. Do this lessor miracle and then move on.

It doesn't seem like this is his strategy, so I call shenanigans. :yes:
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He claims that there is a big difference between a spinal cord that has been severed by an injury, and one that has been cleanly cut, and that this is enough to make the difference between success and failure. I don't have the expertise to determine whether that explanation holds water, but to me, it seems mighty suspicious that he's apparently not willing to demonstrate it on animals first.
 
Henning said:
:confused: Which book was that in?
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It was in the original radio show and I suspect it was in the first book. It's where the mice tell Arthur they can read his brain electronically, but it needs to be prepared first...diced, so they can find out the question to which the answer is 42.
 
Just ask Dr. McCoy

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