How can space be both infinite and a vacuum at the same time?

When I think about dark matter and dark energy, I'm reminded of aether.

Also this:

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There is a lot more to dark matter than there ever was to luminiferous æther.

It's not going to lead to a modification to Newtonian dynamics like the Michelson experiment did. That has been considered, tested, and excluded.
 
There is a lot more to dark matter than there ever was to luminiferous æther.

It's not going to lead to a modification to Newtonian dynamics like the Michelson experiment did. That has been considered, tested, and excluded.

Could a modification to Einsteinian physics prove necessary? :dunno:

I suppose I should read up on the experimental verification of this stuff some day.
 
Could a modification to Einsteinian physics prove necessary? :dunno:

I suppose I should read up on this stuff some day.

Yes, not particularly necessary to modify what we do know, but rather modify how it applies to other dimensions and the conversion process of matter to information as it accelerates through the speed of light and out of space time. That is where the key to teleportation lies.
 
Could a modification to Einsteinian physics prove necessary? :dunno:

I suppose I should read up on the experimental verification of this stuff some day.

Not at the scales we're talking about. Maybe at the largest scales.

The first bit of evidence of dark matter was that measuring the rotation speed of spiral galaxies as a function of distance from the center is constant -- for all spiral galaxies, large and small -- but the light looks a whole lot like the solar system, which has v proportional to 1/sqrt(r). There is a real obvious conclusion there that the light and mass do not correspond.

One of the big conclusions from the first cold dark matter paper in 1983 was that all the observations at the time could be explained by general Relativity, and with quantum fluctuations superposed on it, which hadn't been obvious prior to that. It's still so today, with a lot more observations, but still (mostly) the same parameters, but with assumptions about values replaced with measurements.

Data always trumps assumptions, so it may be that some additional data from even more precise measurements of the microwave background could invalidate GR. But it's not that likely.

Where GR is certainly going to see modifications is at the quantum (Planck) scale. It really doesn't work well there. But that's also where it's really hard to get any experimental data at all.
 
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Yes, not particularly necessary to modify what we do know, but rather modify how it applies to other dimensions and the conversion process of matter to information as it accelerates through the speed of light and out of space time. That is where the key to teleportation lies.

Teleportation is inconsistent with causality.

Good luck with that.
 
The first bit of evidence of dark matter was that measuring the rotation speed of spiral galaxies as a function of distance from the center is constant -- for all spiral galaxies, large and small -- but the light looks a whole lot like the solar system, which has v proportional to 1/sqrt(r). There is a real obvious conclusion there that the light and mass do not correspond.

I was aware that there were observations of galaxies that required coming up with something to reconcile them with the known laws of physics. I still have a question in my mind about whether dark matter is the best solution to that problem. Since then, has the dark matter hypothesis been able to make predictions that have been experimentally or observationally verified?
 
I was aware that there were observations of galaxies that required coming up with something to reconcile them with the known laws of physics. I still have a question in my mind about whether dark matter is the best solution to that problem. Since then, has the dark matter hypothesis been able to make predictions that have been experimentally or observationally verified?

Yup. Quite a lot, actually.

Another bit of evidence comes from X-ray observations of large clusters of galaxies. They tend to collect hot gas in the middle, and that can be used to measure their mass, directly from the X-ray temperature.

It's a lot more mass than the visible matter can account for.

More recently, the mean density of the universe and separately the "baryonic" (normal matter) density can be measured from fluctuations in the microwave background. The shape of the spectrum is not consistent with a universe where all the matter interacts electromagnetically (and all normal matter does). People made predictions about the shape of the spectrum 20 years ago, but WMAP only recently measured it at small enough scales to tell whether the earlier dark matter measurements from big bang nucleosynthesis were correct (both measurements are sensitive in different ways to the ratio of normal to total matter, and give rather precise and consistent results).

Note that not all normal matter is luminous. The CMB results tell you about all normal matter, even the stuff you can't see in emission, by its effect in absorption. If it doesn't absorb or emit, it's dark matter; that's what dark matter means.

There is more. I'll steer you to a recent popular book for an exhaustive list. Lawrence Krauss' "A Universe From Nothing" appears to be fairly up to date.

You can go to Brian Greene's book if you want to get really esoteric (and keep in mind that not everyone buys into string theory).
 
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No one claims to know the identity of the dark matter particle.



MANY people have tried alternative models to explain it. There are a ton of them out there, and you really should look before calling it a "religion."

I was talking about the Big Bang, every book, TV show starts with "in the beginning there was a Big Bang...."
I'm obviously reading the pedestrian books, but I haven't found any that say the universe started any other way.
 
I was talking about the Big Bang, every book, TV show starts with "in the beginning there was a Big Bang...."
I'm obviously reading the pedestrian books, but I haven't found any that say the universe started any other way.

When 2 universes love each other very much.... Oh I guess that's the same thing as "Big Bang" sorry.
 
I was talking about the Big Bang, every book, TV show starts with "in the beginning there was a Big Bang...."
I'm obviously reading the pedestrian books, but I haven't found any that say the universe started any other way.

Not recently. The alternatives have been disproven.

If you can find a really old book from the 60s, you might find some discussion on the Steady State Universe. It's wrong, but it wasn't known to be at that time.
 
They are not fully brain dead, there are multiple sectors of the brain which function at different levels and with different purposes.
So their EEG activity reflects something besides thinking.

You said that with an EEG, "What is being metered is being created by thinking."
 
So their EEG activity reflects something besides thinking.

You said that with an EEG, "What is being metered is being created by thinking."

No, thinking happens at many levels. All brain activity is 'thinking' whether conscious or not. Whether the product of the thought is to perform a mathematic computation, analyze literature, convert focused light into a 3D representation of our physical environment, or tell a muscle to contract, it's all measurable thought.
 
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