Guidance for examiner to determine maneuvers on ACS

[dell30rb]

Question for the group, where is the guidance for examiners to determine which maneuvers will be on a checkride when developing the plan of action?

I seem to remember the PTS having it spelled out in the document

 

[denverpilot]

The table of required and optional stuff is in the ACS Appendix.

 

[MauleSkinner]

And/or the statements in Appendix 5...

In the integrated ACS framework, the Areas of Operation contain Tasks that include “knowledge” elements (such as K1), “risk management” elements (such as R1), and “skill” elements (such as S1). Knowledge and risk management elements are primarily evaluated during the knowledge testing phase of the airman certification process. The evaluator must assess the applicant on all skill elements for each Task included in each Area of Operation of the ACS, unless otherwise noted. The evaluator administering the practical test has the discretion to combine Tasks/elements as appropriate to testing scenarios.
The required minimum elements to include in the POA, unless otherwise noted, from each applicable Task are as follows:
• at least one knowledge element;
• at least one risk management element;
• all skill elements; and

• any Task elements in which the applicant was shown to be deficient on the knowledge test.

 

[denverpilot]

And/or the statements in Appendix 5...

I’m way too lazy to cut and paste. I make em go find it. LOL.

 

[MauleSkinner]

I’m way too lazy to cut and paste. I make em go find it. LOL.

But I didn’t say which ACS it was from.

 

[denverpilot]

But I didn’t say which ACS it was from.

ROFLMAO. Sneaky. Nice.

 

[dmspilot]

Generally unless it's an added rating (in which case consult the additional rating task table), all of them are required except as described in any notes which are spread throughout the document. For example for the private, the examiner must choose at least one of three ground reference maneuvers, as described in the ground reference maneuvers task. So you kinda have to look through the whole thing.

 

[dell30rb]

Generally unless it's an added rating (in which case consult the additional rating task table), all of them are required except as described in any notes which are spread throughout the document. For example for the private, the examiner must choose at least one of three ground reference maneuvers, as described in the ground reference maneuvers task. So you kinda have to look through the whole thing.

Thanks. Yeah I saw appendix 5 as posted earlier... The commercial PTS I remember had a table or something like that, which was less vague.

 

[smv]

Thanks. Yeah I saw appendix 5 as posted earlier... The commercial PTS I remember had a table or something like that, which was less vague.

You mean like this table from the Commercial ACS?

 

[denverpilot]

ACS is a very scatterbrained document but it’s “all there”, which ... honestly is nice. But you do have to hop all over the thing.

It’s, as one YouTube electronics guy likes to say, “A trap for young players...” to only read parts of it.

 

[MauleSkinner]

ACS is a very scatterbrained document but it’s “all there”, which ... honestly is nice. But you do have to hop all over the thing.

You probably want to read the appendices first, and then the rest of it.

You’ll still have to hop around, but at least you’ll know where to hop.

 

[dell30rb]

You mean like this table from the Commercial ACS?

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that’s for an additional rating, not initial

 

[smv]

that’s for an additional rating, not initial

Ahhh.. My mistake. Yah... For an initial, you fall back to "The evaluator must assess the applicant on all skill elements for each Task included in each Area of Operation of the ACS, unless otherwise noted."

In other words, all of them... Except where noted in the Task.