Gotta love how hollywood views flying

[AdamZ]

I'm sitting here watching Airplane 75' And its a riot

1) The Baron in that hits the 747 has a tail number N7950Y but keeps calling approach as 323 zulu.

2) SLC approach tells the baron they are number two behind the 747 and the baron wants to know what is taking so long musta been one fast baron.

3) The Baron pilot has a heart attack and the plane automatically starts to buck and yaw like a rodeo bull.

4) Even though the Baron was number 2 behind the 747 ATC tells the 747 that there is a Baron at 12:30 and it hits the 747 head on.

5) After the collision the guy in the SLC tower is trying to tell the stewardess how to land the plane then he says that he is going down to the IFR room. Never knew there was an IFR room.

Dang I love the movies

 

[Ted]

We watched that the other day, too. If you look carefully, you can see a certain number of parallels between it and "Airplane!"

Yes, all those movies are funny. But they at least managed to get some of the pilot talk correct.

 

[denverpilot]

I need to go pull up Zero Hour on Netflix and watch that again, then Airplane as a Double Feature.

 

[jasc15]

My uncle was an ATC, and half his stories involve "when I was at the common 'I'..." I heard it so many times that it just became one of the things you just gloss over when he speaks, but I did ask him about it. Apparently it was the "common IFR room" and was in operation before the NY TRACON facility was built, or in operation if i have it correct.

 

[dmspilot]

That movie has great comic appeal.

Male passenger: "Salt Lake City will be good for you. It's very dry there."
Drunk woman passenger: "Dry?!"

~

Male passenger: "You mean the stewardess is flying the plane?"

 

[denverpilot]

That movie has great comic appeal.

Male passenger: "Salt Lake City will be good for you. It's very dry there."
Drunk woman passenger: "Dry?!"

I just learned what a "Zion wall" is tonight.

Utah's liquor laws are downright weird.

(Patrons of a liquor-serving establishment may not be allowed to see their drinks being mixed/poured. Restaurants covet a license which allows them to take the partition out from between patrons and bartenders. One bar owner held a ceremony where he and a staff member carried his two 200 lb frosted glass partitions to the parking lot and smashed then after getting the license. The partitions cost him $2800.)

Utah also recently outlawed mini-kegs. Full-sized kegs were already banned.

We here in Denver as their Colorado neighbors, more than make up for them by being the largest beer-producing State by volume in the U.S. -- We love our microbreweries!

 

[Anthony]

We here in Denver as their Colorado neighbors, more than make up for them by being the largest beer-producing State by volume in the U.S. -- We love our microbreweries!

True dat! Great microbrews. However, speaking of strange liquor laws, the supermarkets can only sell 3.2 beer, unless that has been repealed in the few years I've been away.

Speaking of weird laws, PA still has a state run liquor store system, and a totally seperate, licensed, beer distributor system. If you have a dinner party, and want to serve beer, and wine, along with your food, you still must make three seperate stops, at three seperate stores. Plu, you can't just buy six packs in grocery stores, you must buy a full case at the beer distributor, and it can not be mixed brands.

Now back to Hollyweird......

 

[roncachamp]

We here in Denver as their Colorado neighbors, more than make up for them by being the largest beer-producing State by volume in the U.S. -- We love our microbreweries!

That's swell, but where would Colorado rank as a beer-production State if only the microbreweries were counted?

 

[Anthony]

That's swell, but where would Colorado rank as a beer-production State if only the microbreweries were counted?

Probably pretty high. Coors, now owned by Labatts is headquartered in Golden, CO, and last time I checked was a pretty large brewery, plus the Anheuser Busch brewery in FoCo.

 

[JeffDG]

Probably pretty high. Coors, now owned by Labatts is headquartered in Golden, CO, and last time I checked was a pretty large brewery, plus the Anheuser Busch brewery in FoCo.

No...owned by Molson, not Labatt

 

[Ted]

Speaking of weird laws, PA still has a state run liquor store system, and a totally seperate, licensed, beer distributor system. If you have a dinner party, and want to serve beer, and wine, along with your food, you still must make three seperate stops, at three seperate stores. Plu, you can't just buy six packs in grocery stores, you must buy a full case at the beer distributor, and it can not be mixed brands.

Here in Williamsport, PA, Wegman's recently got a "6-pack" license. We have several such places around here that can sell 6-packs of beer or other lighter alcohol. As part of Wegman's 6-pack license, they have a "Craft your own pack" where you can put a bunch of different beers in a 6-pack. I don't know how the license works.

Oh, but if you buy groceries, you have to check out with those at a different register. And they can't put your alcohol in a bag for you, but they can give you a bag to put it in when you get outside.

 

[steingar]

Yeah, we still have state stores here for the hard stuff, though you can get beer and wine in any grocery store. The good news is some grocery stores are getting liquor licenses, including the place down the street from me. Always hated the liquor stores, dirty nasty places.

I miss California, where you could buy anything at the grocery. The left coast had it's charms.

 

[Ted]

I miss California, where you could buy anything at the grocery. The left coast had it's charms.

Yes, but you can buy anything at the grocery store in Nebraska, too, and it doesn't have any of the negatives of the left coast (at least for me).

 

[studiomusic]

The "Zion Curtains" were actually taken down last year.
And, you don't have to be a member of a private club to get a drink anymore either!
We're starting to get better!

-I don't drink at all though, so it matters to me naught. :wink2:

 

[ScottM]

Never knew there was an IFR room.

It is like a VFR room except that the visibility is less than 3 miles with a low ceiling and you need to have been on that room at least 6 times in the previous six months to remain current in its usage.

 

[Anthony]

No...owned by Molson, not Labatt

My mistake. Labatts, Molson? All the same swill.



I got it confused with Rolling Rock who is owned by Labatts.

 

[Anthony]

Here in Williamsport, PA, Wegman's recently got a "6-pack" license. We have several such places around here that can sell 6-packs of beer or other lighter alcohol. As part of Wegman's 6-pack license, they have a "Craft your own pack" where you can put a bunch of different beers in a 6-pack. I don't know how the license works.

Oh, but if you buy groceries, you have to check out with those at a different register. And they can't put your alcohol in a bag for you, but they can give you a bag to put it in when you get outside.

Really? I have a Wegmans near me, but I haven't been there in a loooooong time. I'll check it out. Thanks Ted!

 

[roncachamp]

Probably pretty high. Coors, now owned by Labatts is headquartered in Golden, CO, and last time I checked was a pretty large brewery, plus the Anheuser Busch brewery in FoCo.

Colorado would probably still rank high in total production if the production of the major brewers was excluded because only two of the major brewers have facilities in the state?

Coors merged with Molson, not Labatt.

 

[Anthony]

Coors merged with Molson, not Labatt.

Really? Do tell.

 

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

Yes, but you can buy anything at the grocery store in Nebraska, too, and it doesn't have any of the negatives of the left coast (at least for me).

Or Michigan. With three coasts.

 

[Ted]

Really? I have a Wegmans near me, but I haven't been there in a loooooong time. I'll check it out. Thanks Ted!

I don't know if they're all doing it, or if my local Wegman's did it just to try to get some of the business they were losing to other places. They have a little cafe area where you're allowed to buy the beer, and then drink it with your meal. Additionally, there's a self-serve wine machine (in the meat department), which I can't for the life of me figure out why it's legal.

Glad to be of help!

 

[Missa]

Here in Williamsport, PA, Wegman's recently got a "6-pack" license. We have several such places around here that can sell 6-packs of beer or other lighter alcohol. As part of Wegman's 6-pack license, they have a "Craft your own pack" where you can put a bunch of different beers in a 6-pack. I don't know how the license works.

Oh, but if you buy groceries, you have to check out with those at a different register. And they can't put your alcohol in a bag for you, but they can give you a bag to put it in when you get outside.

You also forgot you can't buy more then 12 without walking out and comming back in.

I spent quite a long time in Giant when I moved here walking around looking for the beer isle.

 

[JeffDG]

Really? Do tell.

Hey...I'm a Canadian...we take our beer companies seriously!

 

[Ghery]

I just learned what a "Zion wall" is tonight.

Utah's liquor laws are downright weird.

(Patrons of a liquor-serving establishment may not be allowed to see their drinks being mixed/poured. Restaurants covet a license which allows them to take the partition out from between patrons and bartenders. One bar owner held a ceremony where he and a staff member carried his two 200 lb frosted glass partitions to the parking lot and smashed then after getting the license. The partitions cost him $2800.)

Utah also recently outlawed mini-kegs. Full-sized kegs were already banned.

We here in Denver as their Colorado neighbors, more than make up for them by being the largest beer-producing State by volume in the U.S. -- We love our microbreweries!

The "Zion Curtains" were actually taken down last year.
And, you don't have to be a member of a private club to get a drink anymore either!
We're starting to get better!

-I don't drink at all though, so it matters to me naught. :wink2:

When I lived in the Denver area 30 years ago a friend had a hat that said it all. "Eat, drink and be merry. For tomorrow you may be in Utah!"

 

[Skylane81E]

That's swell, but where would Colorado rank as a beer-production State if only the microbreweries were counted?

Very high, every small town has it's own brewery it seems

 

[Skylane81E]

I just learned what a "Zion wall" is tonight.

Utah's liquor laws are downright weird.

(Patrons of a liquor-serving establishment may not be allowed to see their drinks being mixed/poured. Restaurants covet a license which allows them to take the partition out from between patrons and bartenders. One bar owner held a ceremony where he and a staff member carried his two 200 lb frosted glass partitions to the parking lot and smashed then after getting the license. The partitions cost him $2800.)

Utah also recently outlawed mini-kegs. Full-sized kegs were already banned.

We here in Denver as their Colorado neighbors, more than make up for them by being the largest beer-producing State by volume in the U.S. -- We love our microbreweries!

MMMM Mormons.

Kinda glad my Fiance isn't the best one in the world

 

[vontresc]

Thang God for living in WI. No goofy liquor laws. Booze and beer can be bought in grocery stores, and liquor stores. Of yeah, and there are at least a couple bars in any tiny hick town in the state .

 

[jesse]

Yes, but you can buy anything at the grocery store in Nebraska, too, and it doesn't have any of the negatives of the left coast (at least for me).

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

 

[denverpilot]

The "Zion Curtains" were actually taken down last year.
And, you don't have to be a member of a private club to get a drink anymore either!
We're starting to get better!

-I don't drink at all though, so it matters to me naught. :wink2:

The article I was listening to was describing them because the movement to end them (they said) was largely pushed by your politician who left Utah to become the Chinese Ambassador and it was looking like the Utah State legislature was now leaning back toward reinstating them. (Thus the reference to the mini-keg new law showing their current legislative temperament.)

Can't say as I know, since I don't live there. It was just entertaining to look up the Zion wall thing online. Very weird.

Liquor laws are an interesting study in State's rights.

For the person who asked, Colorado legislature had been tearing down most of our "Blue Laws" slowly at the public's request. The battles have been interesting and epic. Started with allowing liquor sales on Sunday which mom and pop liquor stores didn't want because they wanted a day off and no competition from chain stores.

I believe the 3.2 laws are slowly coming down on grocery chains if enough bribes, ahem... Taxes... Are paid.

Still can't buy a car from a car dealer on Sunday around here, though. Strange stuff.

 

[denverpilot]

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

Now places where you can still do that at a drive-thru window...

Those places have some truly Free Americans!

 

[Skylane81E]

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

In theory it could be done here also, but don't know if there's anywhere to do it.

 

[Ted]

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

That's it.

How quickly can I get Nebraskan citizenship?

 

[Anthony]

My Wegman's sells beer! You can actually drink it legally in their cafe. Don't think it will be replacing Victory though.

 

[DaleB]

That's it.

How quickly can I get Nebraskan citizenship?

You don't even need that. We sell all of it to furriners too.

 

[Bob Bement]

Two hollywood movies that are darn good about things airplane being correct are, THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY, and ISLAND IN THE SKY. Ernie Gann saw to it that they didn't Hollywood those two.

 

[mikea]

...Still can't buy a car from a car dealer on Sunday around here, though. Strange stuff.

The small downstate car dealers bought that law in Illinois, too. You can buy house, a yacht or a 747, but not a Cobalt.

They didn't want to have to pay to staff the showroom on Sunday, and the theory is you would buy from them if they were open the same time as the big guys.

 

[poadeleted21]

I'm from Mississippi, the majority of the state is dry, it's like a half hour drive to get beer from my parents house. I remember when I used to work in Dallas you had to pay like a buck and sign up with some sort of weird club or something to be able to buy beer in resturants, I think selling from convenience stores was banned in some parts of Dallas. South Carolina used to be the goofiest, they had red dots on the liquor stores and you could only buy mini-bottle liquor, when bartenders mixed drinks they had to use the entire mini bottle which wound up making a Long Island Ice tea be about a gallon sized drink, also made the drinks turn out fairly stiff. I'm in Montana, we have 4 breweries just in Missoula, I've forgotten what yellow fizzy watered down pilsner tastes like.

 

[poadeleted21]

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

You're describing a montana wal-mart

 

[jtheune]

When I lived in the Denver area 30 years ago a friend had a hat that said it all. "Eat, drink and be merry. For tomorrow you may be in Utah!"

Where adulthood has been outlawed ( or so my friend from SLC would tell me.

 

[Ghery]

I can go to one store and buy a shotgun, rifle, shells, rifle & handgun ammo, hard liquor, couple cases of beer, and groceries. All in one transaction. No permit required.

"Alcohol, tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency." Looks like you may have that convenience store.

Two hollywood movies that are darn good about things airplane being correct are, THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY, and ISLAND IN THE SKY. Ernie Gann saw to it that they didn't Hollywood those two.

Fantastic movies.