GM to shut down Hummer

Mh, I guess the gas price was heading for $3/gal again.

Didn't they announce that 3 years ago ? And then unanounced it.
 
Was there ever a reason for Hummer as a separate division?

Hindsight being what it is (mine being especially skillful), GM should have:

1. Shut down Saturn a long time ago - it lost its mission anyway -

2. *NOT* shut down Oldsmobile - they were producing some of the most innovative designs in the GM stable (they really could have merged the Saturn brand in to Olds, to tell the truth)

3. Lose Pontiac - they stopped doing anything innovative in design a long time ago, and the only genuinely interesting cars they have sold lately are (1) the GTO (made in Australia); (2) the G8 (Australia, again); and (3) the Solstice roadster (which, along with its Saturn cousin, the Sky, is now an orphan) - all dead, now.

4. Not kill-off dealers, especially some of the rural dealers, whose sales may not have been large, but the act of withdrawing the franchise creates serious bad will.
 
GM will be all right because their Board of Directors is working at killing off Toyota right now. :D
 
I kind of liked the H3, but it was really looking to be like a Jeep but not that off road capable. Kind of a grocery getter based on the Chevy Colorado pick-up platform. Toyota did the same thing with the FJ Cruiser, and that died too.

As far as gas guzzling SUV's? If people want them and can afford them why not? We fly airplanes that get 14 - 15 MPG and call that "efficient".
 
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EppyGA said:
GM will be all right because their Board of Directors is working at killing off Toyota right now. :D
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GM will wind up going down the tubes because the new CEO just received a $9 Million compensation plan thanks to a special arrangement with the Obama pay Czar and they have contracted with former CEO Fritz Henderson to work as a consultant for $60,000 a month. Plus they're "rethinking" about all those dealerships they closed. Since most have the buildings for sale I don't think a please come back letter is going to help.
 
RMCN172RG said:
GM will wind up going down the tubes because the new CEO just received a $9 Million compensation plan thanks to a special arrangement with the Obama pay Czar and they have contracted with former CEO Fritz Henderson to work as a consultant for $60,000 a month. Plus they're "rethinking" about all those dealerships they closed. Since most have the buildings for sale I don't think a please come back letter is going to help.
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They forced-closed a dealer in rural north Texas a scant few years after the owners had purchased it - GM required, as a condition of their purchase, that they build a new, $1,000,000+ dealership building. Amused? I think not.
 
SCCutler said:
They forced-closed a dealer in rural north Texas a scant few years after the owners had purchased it - GM required, as a condition of their purchase, that they build a new, $1,000,000+ dealership building. Amused? I think not.
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I wonder how many of the booted Chrysler and GM dealers are now in the business of selling Hyundai and Kia.

Subaru seems to be a lot less stringent in how many cars a dealer has to sell. There are some rural places that don't even have a showroom. They provide mostly service and when the (mostly repeat) customers need a new car, they just order one in.
 
Nothing spells C-R-A-S-S like a big white H2.

Nothing against the fuel burn, just a tacky vehicle driven by tacky people.
 
Anthony said:
We fly airplanes that get 14 - 15 MPG and call that "efficient".
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I get 9 mpg with the Aztec and I'm thrilled. My truck only gets 12 mpg, going about 1/3 the speed. :D

I'll add, I like my Aztec and my Ford truck. They may not be efficient, but they're reliable and do the job. No interest in trading them, thank you.
 
Will they still manufacture the machine for the military? It seems quite successful in that role.
 
steingar said:
Will they still manufacture the machine for the military? It seems quite successful in that role.
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GM never did build the actual HMMWV (the military beast); it is built by AM General (used to be part of American Motors). The "Hummer" brand was licensed to GM, and certain of the "Hummer" vehicles were built for GM by AM General.

AM General continues in business, in South Bend Indiana (traces its roots back - way back - to Studebaker!).
 
flyersfan31 said:
Nothing spells C-R-A-S-S like a big white H2.

Nothing against the fuel burn, just a tacky vehicle driven by tacky people.
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I see the Hummer as being a "statement" vehicle, much like very expensive sports cars. Neither one is very practical. Sure, the vehicle most people drive says something about themselves, but not in an in-your-face way.
 
Everskyward said:
I see the Hummer as being a "statement" vehicle, much like very expensive sports cars. Neither one is very practical. Sure, the vehicle most people drive says something about themselves, but not in an in-your-face way.
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The statement I've generally found it to be is

"I couldn't park this hunk of s%$@ if my life depended on it."

I still remember seeing one parked in a handicapped spot with the left rear tire on the concrete island next to the spot. They didn't bother straightening up.

Which is why I'm all for a system that requires you qualify to drive vehicles larger than a sedan.
 
wbarnhill said:
Which is why I'm all for a system that requires you qualify to drive vehicles larger than a sedan.
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Why not just require that you know how to drive in the first place? If you know how to drive, the size of the vehicle isn't a big deal.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Why not just require that you know how to drive in the first place? If you know how to drive, the size of the vehicle isn't a big deal.
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Hey, that works too. Let me know when we get a system like that in place here. :D
 
wbarnhill said:
Hey, that works too. Let me know when we get a system like that in place here. :D
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Or anywhere. It's about as probable as requiring people to get alternate licenses to drive their SUVs.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Or anywhere. It's about as probable as requiring people to get alternate licenses to drive their SUVs.
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Yeah, I know, but I can dream can't I? I guess I'd like to see insurance companies ask how many hours you've got in type before agreeing to insure you.
 
wbarnhill said:
Yeah, I know, but I can dream can't I? I guess I'd like to see insurance companies ask how many hours you've got in type before agreeing to insure you.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

THAT I'd like to see!!!!!!:D:D:D
 
That'd be the day - we'd still all be driving '65 Cadillacs. Hey, that's not such a bad thing...
 
dennyleeb said:
I have had 3 h-1's. Loved them all!!!!
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H1 is a different beast. The H2 is such a pretender. A tarted up Tahoe.

You gotta really want to drive an H1. They aren't the worlds most driver friendly vehicle.
 
my last one was, it was last year made 06 alpha, with duramax and allison, heated leather, I drove it from LA to kentucky
 
wbarnhill said:
The statement I've generally found it to be is

"I couldn't park this hunk of s%$@ if my life depended on it."

I still remember seeing one parked in a handicapped spot with the left rear tire on the concrete island next to the spot. They didn't bother straightening up.

Which is why I'm all for a system that requires you qualify to drive vehicles larger than a sedan.
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It isn't the size of the vehicle, it's the quality of the driver. I've seen people who couldn't drive a roller skate and shouldn't have a license. But then, there are those who would continue to drive with or without a license.
I'm all for a system that periodically tests the driver on their knowledge of the rules and their ability to drive. Then the officer could fail the person immediately if there were a cup holder IN USE or an ashtray full of cigarette butts or a cell phone plugged in.
It isn't the hummer that's a problem. Even though I don't want one, I'm sorry to see it go.
 
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dennyleeb said:
my last one was, it was last year made 06 alpha, with duramax and allison, heated leather, I drove it from LA to kentucky
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And only 23 dinosaurs gave their lives for that trip ...:rofl::rofl::lol:


Ben, ducking and running' Haas.
 
The Hummer is the hands-down winner in any exterior size:interior room disparity ratio contest for utility vehicles manufactured during my lifetime.

Everskyward said:
I see the Hummer as being a "statement" vehicle, much like very expensive sports cars. Neither one is very practical. Sure, the vehicle most people drive says something about themselves, but not in an in-your-face way.
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Oh no! :hairraise:

Oh wait. The Hummer I care about isn't owned by GM. It's owned by Don.

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