Drones again...

Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. I'm all for tighter regs on drones.
 
Ryanb said:
Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile. I'm all for tighter regs on drones.
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With the new Part 107 regulations coming next month, be aware that drone operators can literally (and legally) fly on Class G airport property. They do have restrictions and must pass a written test that includes understanding of the NAS, but they are going to become even more prevalent. Hopefully, the certificated "Remote Pilots" will feel the same need to protect their certificates as we Part 61 pilots do.
 
Idiots. I cannot believe the local police could not find any laws that they could charge them with violating.
 
write-stuff said:
With the new Part 107 regulations coming next month, be aware that drone operators can literally (and legally) fly on Class G airport property. They do have restrictions and must pass a written test that includes understanding of the NAS, but they are going to become even more prevalent. Hopefully, the certificated "Remote Pilots" will feel the same need to protect their certificates as we Part 61 pilots do.
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Here's my take on drone regs...

It's idiots like the folks in the above article, or the ones that fly drones in restricted airspace over wildfires or prisons or Washington DC or under the approach paths of major airports that make me think its only a matter of time before one of this near misses turns into a much bigger issue and ruins drone/uas/model aircraft flying for the majority who do it safely. The current regulations are useless for the same reason the new ones will be; there is no way to enforce them. The only way the FAA is going to know someone is operating a drone in violation of the regs is if it's reported by ATC or a pilot and then they can accurately determine position and dispatch local law enforcement to find the person in a reasonable amount of time. Totally unrealistic. Without consequences why should anyone think the minority of total drone operators who operate dangerously/illegally will obey regulations with no teeth. It's essentially the FAA giving a list of restrictions and thinking that people will police themselves.
 
It's called freedom and the 2nd Amendment folks. Move along, no harm was done, and no laws that result will prevent it from happening illegally.
 
I understand that this is on a much different scale, but why would this be any different then trying to retrofit an old warbird with working guns? I know this is a large divide between the two scenarios, but I'm trying to look at it from a simple flying object that has been weaponized.
 
oregonboy109 said:
Here's my take on drone regs...

It's idiots like the folks in the above article, or the ones that fly drones in restricted airspace over wildfires or prisons or Washington DC or under the approach paths of major airports that make me think its only a matter of time before one of this near misses turns into a much bigger issue and ruins drone/uas/model aircraft flying for the majority who do it safely. The current regulations are useless for the same reason the new ones will be; there is no way to enforce them. The only way the FAA is going to know someone is operating a drone in violation of the regs is if it's reported by ATC or a pilot and then they can accurately determine position and dispatch local law enforcement to find the person in a reasonable amount of time. Totally unrealistic. Without consequences why should anyone think the minority of total drone operators who operate dangerously/illegally will obey regulations with no teeth. It's essentially the FAA giving a list of restrictions and thinking that people will police themselves.
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Well said...tighter regs on drones isn't going to accomplish much (maybe I am wrong)...
 
I picked up one of the higher end DJI Phantom 4 drones recently. Wow can it do so much. I'm all for tighter regulations. However, there needs to be more done because any idiot at this point who was the funds can just fly these things up and do lots of damage... Then just toss the controller and never be found.
 
TK211X said:
I picked up one of the higher end DJI Phantom 4 drones recently. Wow can it do so much. I'm all for tighter regulations. However, there needs to be more done because any idiot at this point who was the funds can just fly these things up and do lots of damage... Then just toss the controller and never be found.
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not just an idiot, but a jerk, too. my son has a phantom 3, and it gives you lots of warnings. We took it to Colorado on vacation and decided to stop by Boulder to film the college. It triggered a notification that we were in a restricted area. I googled what it could be, and Boulder has a strict drone policy. My point being that you almost have to be an idiot and a jerk to do something that endangers people. I can see how people can break a rule unknowingly, but some of the stuff that's been reported is just plain dumb on the part of the drone operator.
 
RyanShort1 said:
It's called freedom and the 2nd Amendment folks. Move along, no harm was done, and no laws that result will prevent it from happening illegally.
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You lost me on the 2nd Amendment statement... " the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" IMHO can no way be interpreted, even by the best lawyers at the NRA, that people have a constitutional right to mount a weapon to a drone. I would stipulate that no laws were broken. Heck, LEO 'copters can't even be armed, it's that whole Posse Comitatus issue.
 
oregonboy109 said:
The only way the FAA is going to know someone is operating a drone in violation of the regs is if it's reported by ATC or a pilot and then they can accurately determine position and dispatch local law enforcement to find the person in a reasonable amount of time.
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And have local law enforcement do what, exactly? Arrest or cite on a FAR? Unless the local municipalities or states have laws specifically regulating drones, local law enforcement isn't going to take enforcement action on a FAR. And the FAA is less than responsive, even when phone calls are left by local LE with suspect info and hard addresses. Ask me how I know.
 
S Joslin said:
You lost me on the 2nd Amendment statement... " the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" IMHO can no way be interpreted, even by the best lawyers at the NRA, that people have a constitutional right to mount a weapon to a drone. I would stipulate that no laws were broken. Heck, LEO 'copters can't even be armed, it's that whole Posse Comitatus issue.
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Sure, it could be argued. Winning in this day and age would be a roll of the dice.
 
It'll be good when all the store-bought drones have software that prevents their operation within xx miles of an airport and doesn't let them climb above 400' AGL. I think it's mainly the noobs that buy these things and ruin it for the rest of us, not the seasoned rc flyers who know and respect the rules.

Also, let's make an example of one of these idiots who flies in a fire TFR to get footage to show his buddies, and endangers all the firefighting aircraft. Big fines, jail time.
 
I don't see why they don't just shoot down the ones flying over the fires... I mean if you park in front of a fire hydrant and there's a fire they don't just stop fighting the fire. They bust the windows out of the car and run a hose through it.
 
In case you want to get your commercial airman certificate for drone operations:

 
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